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Well, I haven't been jumping off any buildings today...
A very TARDISey merry Christmas to you, and I like your work on the soundtrack page :). Will (Because you're filthy, ooh, and I'm gorgeous)Merry Christmas! 18:17, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Your edits to The Runaway Bride (Doctor Who)
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Edit summaries
Hey, something's up with your edit summaries, check your history. -SpuriousQ (talk) 14:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

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Only Human
I've made a correction to your edit to the Only Human article. The New Series Adventures book The Stealers of Dreams takes place after Boom Town because it contains a direct reference to the events of that episode. 23skidoo 14:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I just read the novel. In the book Rose uses her Superphone to call her mum, who gives her hell for going to Cardiff and having an adventure with Mickey but not bothering to phone home. See also which places Stealers of Dreams as happening after Boom Town. 23skidoo 16:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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Murray Gold/Mr chuzzlewit
Hi, Rambutan. I'm travelling till Tuesday evening, so won't be able to examine the incident closely, but at a glance I would say that a) you're probably right that has some connection to Murray Gold, and thus has a COI with regards to Gold's article and the soundtrack, and b) Chuzzlewit is right that opinions stated on an internet forum aren't, generally speaking, considered a reliable source for Wikipedia's purposes, and so probably shouldn't be included in the article. He's also right that it's more important to note what major media sources have said about an album than what a handful of fans said on a discussion forum — even a discussion forum as well-regarded as OG. My feeling as an editor is that the OG criticism should probably stay out of the article, but (as I said on the talk page) if similar cricicisms have been published in print (in, say, Doctor Who Magazine or SFX) they could be noted. But I think that the article as it is gives undue weight to the opinions of a few fans. Sorry.

The issue of Gold's religion is a bit more dicey. I don't think that his parents' names are noteworthy, unless they are themselves noteworthy for some reason, in which case we should say "His father is the noted architect Leonard Gold" (or whatever). The religion/ethnicity question, however, is arguably noteworthy — however, per WP:BLP we should probably have a citation for it. If we can find a citation for Gold being Jewish, I think that should probably stay in the article.

I'll leave a note on Chuzzlewit's user talk page about WP:COI, but his concerns are mostly legit. His main error was in editing the articles, instead of discussing his concerns on the articles' talk pages. I hope that helps. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * P.S. I hope you realized that you were up against the WP:3RR barrier today: if you had reverted once more, you would have broken 3RR. It would be better to discuss before getting into an edit war. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Josiah on all points, pretty much. As I said before, I'm not sure it's important to include the Judaism at all, and if it goes in it should be in context rather than called out in a lone sentence away from other biographical detail. Overall, my inclination in a situation like this is to consult with an admin whose fairness and good sense I trust, and seek advice. In any case, compromise and consensus should be achieved if at all possible. It may be that Gold and his friend/agent/publisher/sock have reason to be concerned about large numbers of Doctor Who fans knowing his parents' names and religious background, because of privacy issues for Gold's family. I'm not sure it's vitally important for Wikipedia to include such info against the subject's wishes, even if the person making the objection is violating COI. Regards... Karen | Talk | contribs 22:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't really have anything to add to Josiah's comments. As it stands, I think all is proceeding as it should in terms of handling the matter. The policy position is pretty clear. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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Do not be confrontational.
Rambutan, i'm afraid you are being confrontational and there is no way around it. If your weren't being confrontational why would you choose to highlight that in a hidden comment? Push all your frustration aside and move onto something more productive or you'll fall into the trap of being childish yourself. I explained my reason for removing 'stuff' off my talkpage in the archive page, perhaps you would care to take a look.--MrWez 09:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC)