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Speedy deletion nomination of Argo Group International Holdings


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Orphaned non-free image File:Argo Group Logo.jpg
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File permission problem with File:Portrait of Mark E. Watson III.jpg
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File permission problem with File:Picture of Mark E. Watson III.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Picture of Mark E. Watson III.jpg, which you've attributed to. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license.

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Problems with upload of File:Labor Law Plus logo.jpg
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Speedy deletion nomination of Labor Law Plus


A tag has been placed on Labor Law Plus, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator.  Omni Flames ( talk ) 10:54, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Labor Law Plus (August 16)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DatGuy was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Labor Law Plus and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Labor_Law_Plus Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DatGuy&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Labor_Law_Plus reviewer's talk page].
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Dat GuyTalkContribs 11:24, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016
Please do not move a page to a title that is harder to follow, or move it unilaterally against naming conventions or consensus. This includes making page moves while a discussion remains under way. We have some guidelines to help with deciding what title is best for a subject. If you would like to experiment with page titles and moving, please use the test Wikipedia. Thank you. Dat GuyTalkContribs 11:25, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Labor Law Plus (August 30)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DatGuy was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Labor Law Plus and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Labor_Law_Plus Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DatGuy&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Labor_Law_Plus reviewer's talk page].
 * You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Dat GuyTalkContribs 16:56, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Reply
Hi, thanks for message. I deleted your article because
 * it did not provide adequate independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the company, press releases, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company claims or interviewing its management. most of your "refs" are just repeating what the company and its management have said. You have also made the article look better referenced than it is by listing each of multiple calls to the same reference separately
 * You are so busy promoting what you sell that you haven't bothered to tell us how the company meets the notability criteria. To show notability you need hard verifiable facts such as the number of employees, turnover or profits. I note that the company was founded only in 2013, so at best it might be too soon
 * it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic.
 * It's a sure indicator that if an article starts with ®' or ™ spam will follow. We are not here to protect your registrations
 * Examples of unsourced claims presented as fact include: Labor Law Plus®... operates in more than 95 countries worldwide... provides integrated labor and employment legal services, as well as full business law support... can benefit from consistent advice across operations worldwide... finds solutions... provide dedicated coverage through an extensive network of correspondents and contacts... a fast, flexible and cost-efficient service... complete legal support worldwide... supports human resources and company law departments... This fact  [sic]distinguishes Labor Law Plus... gives clients access to a wide range of global business law services... Labor Law Plus helps international enterprises... harnessing and integrating the knowledge and skills... These teams of professionals then provide clients with a single set of comprehensive yet flexible services geared to find solutions to their specific needs... geared to relieve clients of the need...&mdash; basically, the whole text is a fact-free plug for your company


 * If you have a conflict of interest when editing this article, you must declare it. If, after reading the information about notability linked above, you still believe that your organisation is notable enough for a Wikipedia article (and that there is significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources), you could, if you wish, post a request at Requested articles for the article to be created. See also Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest.
 * If you work directly or indirectly for the company, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly. Regardless, if you are paid directly or indirectly by the company you are writing about, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:    . If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message.

Articles in draft space are given some leeway in terms of referencing and showing notability, which is why  was moved there, but you still can't post such obvious spam. Prior to that it had already been nominated for speedy deletion by. DatGuy twice declined your submission as Submission reads like an advertisement and later had an edit summary that started Glorified self-PR. Despite your claim, the draft is the opposite of factually correct and is not promotional sounding. It's better if you do not write on behalf of a company, but if you do, you must make the declaration of COI above Jimfbleak (talk) 06:10, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, we submitted this article again in late January keeping this information in mind. With this feedback, we have edited the document multiple times in the hopes of meeting the Wikipedia requirements - yet we keep receiving the same response. There are various other law firms which have familiar Wikipedia pages and there is no problem - what is wrong with ours? ] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trent77 (talk • contribs) 18:13, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, is the article you are talking about, Transatlantic Law International?  Seagull123  Φ  21:35, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Only with having a quick look at the messages left for you above, and not really knowing much about your contributions, I can say that there are still issues of COIs (if you are paid for editing, you haven't declared it - as far as I can see). Also, if your contributed articles keep getting deleted, try the Article Wizard (making sure you've read Your First Article first). I would also suggest you take note of this bit of the Avoiding Common Mistakes page, "If your company is notable enough, someone else will write an article about it. (See Business FAQ and Conflict of interest.)" Make sure anything you write about is truly notable. Also, if the article you are talking about is Transatlantic Law International, then there are a few things I can see that can be improved there, including that there are quite a few (too many) primary sources, try and add more reliable, secondary sources. Visit the reference desk if you need help finding some. Also, the Legal and Business Services section doesn't seem notable, and, in my opinion, is bordering on promotional - as it just seems to be advertising what the company does. May I also say that I'm not currently convinced of the overall article's notability, as when giving the company a quick Google search, only primary sources come up - the company's website, this WP article, a LinkedIn page, etc. And one final thing, if this article keeps getting deleted/rejected for notability (or similar) issues, then maybe the organisation doesn't merit an article on Wikipedia? If you need any other help, then just click here, or leave a message on my talk page. Thanks.  Seagull123  Φ  22:03, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Your draft was, to be blunt, an advertisement. If after Jimfbleak's detailed discussion of the previous article's shortcomings you are still unable to see how wording such as "a unique service platform that works with dedicated teams from top independent firms on a seamless centrally managed basis" is unsuitable for an encyclopedia article, I don't think there's much sense trying any further. I would strongly advise you to drop that project. Huon (talk) 23:36, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Argo Group Logo.jpg
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Help me!
Please help me with...If I ensure that the Labor Law Plus page is not promotional and ensure I add the caveat that a company has been paid to edit this article, will my article be posted? Or has it been flagged to never receive full consideration (as it was taken down almost immediately last time)?

Trent77 (talk) 14:39, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


 * It depends on how you use it. Try wording it in a way that it isn't promotional. &#42;Xyaena~* (talk) 16:22, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

paid template on your user page
Hi, with the paid template you added to your user page, you haven't added any parameters to it. You need to do this so the template shows who is paying you for editing. Click on this link, then scroll down to the "Arguments" section below the table to see what you can add. To do so, use code like this,, replacing the names of the companies with who pays you (remove the client parameter if it doesn't apply to you). See the link I provided to see which parameters you can add, and how to add them. If you need any help adding these parameters, just leave a message on my talk page. Thanks.  Seagull123  Φ  21:15, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

copy editing, "company"
Hi. I noticed you made some light edits/copy editing on the Brian Duperreault page. I was just wondering why you capitalized the word "company." Is there a specific time when this should be capitalized that you know? If so, I'll look out for it in future articles. Thanks. -KaJunl (talk) 22:13, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Transatlantic Law International for deletion
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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  19:52, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Labor Law Plus for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Labor Law Plus until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Nomination of Mark E. Watson III for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Mark E. Watson III is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Mark E. Watson III until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  19:34, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Mark E. Watson III. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. Cmr08 (talk) 21:48, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Pina Albo for deletion
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February 2018
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove an Articles for deletion notice or a comment from an AfD discussion, as you did at Mark E. Watson III. CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  20:50, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

February 2018
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ we would like to apologize for this - we were updating Mark E. Watson's page with new content and sources, as per the notice and the alert must have been deleted in the process.
 * who is we? CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  05:02, 5 February 2018 (UTC) Myself and a friend I'd been collaborating this on with.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Do you know why the Mark E. Watson page was taken down? On Friday I completely revised the text and included updated citations. Should I try doing this again, with the new copy? Any clarification or suggestions would be very appreciated!