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Thanks for your improvements to WikiProject Computing/sidebar! --Pnm (talk) 02:38, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Banner
Thanks for your query. Wikimedia UK are your best bet. They do have banners that were used in the Bristol event- don't know where those are right now. It may be cheaper to print your own banner and claim for it, but sort that out with them first. Best of luck with the event, MartinPoulter (talk) 15:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see your email inbox. :-) Sorry for the delay in getting back to you about this. Mike Peel (talk) 08:57, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No problems - thanks for promptly chasing it up. --trevj (talk) 09:17, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

template:web browsers
Please explain me some edits you made: a)Why should Netsurf be italic in the template:web browsers since it seems (at the moment) that the project is ongoing and the only discontinued/abandoned projects are italic? b)Template:italic title is not working in my browser (have to check it) - but why? Never seen the product italic... mabdul 13:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Apologies. I've now undone my revision. I didn't research the reason for italicizing titles beforehand. Now I've found a mention of it on the talk page and have also noted the "italics = No longer in development" at the bottom of the template, I understand. Sorry again. --trevj (talk) 13:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know why Italic title isn't working in your browser but as creative works, I was following the convention of italicizing the title. I'll check with WP:COMP but I note that, e.g. the Doom game titles are italicized. --trevj (talk) 13:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, its good that you reverted your edit. But again: please explain me why Netsurf should be italic? Every "netsurf" in the article and everywhere else is normal, not italic. On the official page is also nothing italic! mabdul 13:51, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Good point about absence of italics in the main text. Anyway, it's probably more appropriate to continue this discussion on Talk:NetSurf. --trevj (talk) 14:16, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Riscos rool logo cog riscosopenltd.svg
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 * Thanks for raising this issue. This file is to be superceded by File:Riscos rool logo cog svgedit fitcanvastocontent.svg due excessive canvas size in the former file. --trevj (talk) 11:43, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for raising this issue. This file is currently used in a Userspace draft and should be referenced by a more complete article in Main namespace before the deletion date arrives. --trevj (talk) 12:07, 18 February 2011 (UTC) OK, I see that it's now been removed in accordance with WP:NFCC. Never mind. My comment still applies. --trevj (talk) 12:13, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

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Test of Template:WikiProject Computing/Welcome
 Welcome to WikiProject Computing!

Hi, and welcome to WikiProject Computing! Thanks for joining.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask a fellow member, and we'll be happy to help you. We look forward to working with you! --Trevj (talk)

Oh great, the 'talk' link hasn't worked! --trevj (talk) 12:40, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

RISC OS ScummVM port?
Hi, recently you edited ScummVM article and added RISC OS as one of the ports. There is no such official port, so I removed, however I suspect that an unofficial port exists. Could you point me to the author so I could talk with him about the inclusion? Please email me to sev [at] scummvm.org. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sevua (talk • contribs) 20:31, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi. I think you're right - it's an unofficial one. I believe the v.0.8.0 port was undertaken by Peter Naulls. However, I believe the recent updates (compatible with ARMv7 machines) were undertaken by Chris Gransden. As you've requested to be emailed, I'll email you a link back here, and also forward it on to Chris's email. Thanks. --trevj (talk) 09:54, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Acorn Computers Medusa project dev team.jpg
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 * Fair comment. Apologies for the misunderstanding. I've now been less cautious and licensed the file as PD. When the article includes some written explanation, then perhaps the image can be included and set in context. --trevj (talk) 23:06, 26 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid that won't work. You can't simply assume something is in the public domain merely because the creator has released it for publicity purposes. Fut.Perf. ☼ 00:03, 27 March 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, you're clearly more experienced in these matters. I've read WP:PD a bit further and now understand the issues a little more. Thanks. --trevj (talk) 08:19, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Pace plc
Hello, Trevj. I saw you tagged the list of customers that Steve Pattison had added to the article. He had already asked me about his edits, and I had advised him about the user name, (he's now using an individual one), COI, and in particular the very issue you picked up on, so he then went in and shortened the list. Would you see if that is satisfactory, and if so remove the tag? I don't want to do it myself, as I am also an employee of Pace. --ColinFine (talk) 19:15, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅ I don't have time now to compare against the coverage in similar articles here. Therefore, the tag removal is based on assuming the editors around here to be neutral. Ideally, the article should be assessed by a third party... perhaps that will happen in due course. Thanks. --trevj (talk) 00:00, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

== RFC on the inclusion of a table comparing SI units and Binary prefixes ==

Notice: An RFC is being conducted here at Talk:Hard diskdrive#RFC on the use of the IEC prefixes. The debate concerns this table which includes columns comparing SI and Binary prefixes to describe storage capacity. We welcome your input

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Elite (video game)
Hi Trevj. For one, such an edit is not controversial enough to require discussion before the images were removed, especially since this is not a GA or FA. For another, none of the images used a rationale that was not completely generic or false. The image of the advert was to demonstrate how the game was advertised - whereas the article never once mentions how it was advertised, so what relevance does this image have to the article? The second gameplay image claims that it identifies the article, but not why we need to see depictions of it in two different ways. And the alternate box art uses a rationale that can only be used for the main box art - we simply cannot use two box arts unless it is absolutely necessary. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 02:43, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi and thanks for your comments.
 * File:Elite The Dark Wheel Novella.jpg
 * Rationale amended. I understand your point regarding the box art. The deleted image was the original artwork, and is artguably more notable than the newer version in the infobox. Therefore, if only one version can be retained, I'll take the discussion to the talk page.
 * File:Elite c64 advert.jpg
 * Understood that the article does not discuss the advert. I have no intention to add such material myself in the foreseeable future. I intended to contact the uploader, User:Vanished user 03 but this would appear pointless so I've not done so.
 * File:Arcelite through vipers.jpg
 * Why we need to see depictions of it in two different ways? Rationale amended, which explains this under 'Purpose of use'.
 * What do you think? Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 11:28, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Arcelite through vipers.jpg
The problem with this file was that it was an unused non-free image: it had absolutely nothing to do with the rationale. Please add it back to an article, and when you've done so, leave a note at my talk page and I'll happily restore it. Nyttend (talk) 10:55, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * File is restored; thanks for the help. A man alone reverted you (apparently not checking your talk page), saying that it had been deleted, so I've undone his edit and put the image back.  Nyttend (talk) 13:20, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I must have seen & reverted at exactly the wrong time - when I checked it was still a deleted image, ie a redlink, despite these messages sayign that it wasn't. Still, all happy now.   a_man_alone (talk) 13:32, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No probs. It was deleted. I asked for it to be reverted and was requested to reinclude it (as a redlink) before it be restored - so as to avoid it being restored as an orphan. --Trevj (talk) 13:37, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Admittedly my dealings with orphan images (and pages, I suppose) is fairly limited, but even if it was re-created as an orphan, as soon as the page is linked, wouldn't the orphan template be removed? How does that work?  Not picking an argument here - I'm just curious to learn something.   a_man_alone (talk) 14:08, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry - I have no idea how orphans/bots interact. Category:Orphaned non-free use Wikipedia files is possibly added automatically. I suspect that if the file were to have been restored before it were linked to, it would be automatically tagged again. It would then be up for deletion in another 7 days, I guess. If it were linked to after being restored, would the category then be removed automatically? Who knows? --Trevj (talk) 14:30, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps Di-orphaned fair use was present and I didn't notice it. Maybe this'd have to be removed manually once the link was reinstated? --Trevj (talk) 14:46, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, here it is! --Trevj (talk) 14:48, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * So, if an image is uploaded and orphaned - ie the article it's destined for doesn't already link to it - then an orphan template is automatically attached to the image page. If at a later date the image is then linked to a page, the orphaned template is not automatically removed, and has to be removed by an editor.  Don't suppose it matters, but it's good to learn things.   a_man_alone (talk) 15:07, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't restore the talk page — but only because MrKIA11 restored it before I could get to it. As for how the orphans work, a nonfree image can easily be online without links for a long time without being tagged as an orphan if nobody notices it.  My reason for asking you to restore it is different: I generally do not restore images in cases such as this unless they're first restored to pages in order to ensure that the image is in use, as I don't want to restore something only to have the other person forget about it.  Nyttend (talk) 23:57, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Non-free files in your user space
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 * Oops, forgot to remove the refs after creating the article! --Trevj (talk) 05:24, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

RE: On the WP Question
Hey Travj, thanks for your corrections, they are appreciated indeed. --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 18:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Music Beta by Google
Re. correct template syntax for infobox - thank you very much; my internet is playing up, hence 'preview' failed me (CSS didn't load) - my own problem, due to dodgy wi-fi. Thanks for covering it!  Chzz  ► 18:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Riscos.info
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 * I believe there to be no copyright violation. The site is CC-by, so I've therefore removed the tag. --Trevj (talk)
 * The site is licensed CC-BY 2.5 which is not compatible for text on Wikipedia. See FAQ/Copyright (the chart is for images by the way). Pretty much, only CC-BY-SA and public domain can be used for text.--NortyNort (Holla) 22:13, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for the info. It was intended that any text from the site be included within Quote tags. If this isn't the case, then I apologise and would be happy to rectify matters. (Although it may not be the best place to look, I see nothing relevant about copyright at Template:Quote, Template talk:Quote or MOS:QUOTE. I also note that RISC OS Open includes quotes of comparable length - admittedly from magazines, not websites - and was reviewed by WP:WPAFC.) Furthermore, there seems to be no special mention regarding quotations at WP:FAQ/Copyright. If this article is moved to WP:INCUBATE in the future, all concerns can be addressed there. Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 04:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't see the deleted article, so I don't know how long the quotes are. WP:QUOTE has a section towards the bottom about quotations and fair-use. I don't think the quotes in RISC OS Open are excessive in fair-use. I have seen some editors quote a 1000+ word passage of an article which is clearly excessive. Quotes should cover what they need to and be brief along with being attributed. There are a lot of situations and judgments to be made though.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. A userspace copy is at User:Trevj/Archive/riscos.info, if you fancy commenting on the length of the quotations used. --Trevj (talk) 08:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, they aren't terribly wrong per se but I think them and the quotes in RISC OS Open would be better incorporated into the article as prose. I am saying this from a content perspective. I have never seen an article where the subject is described in the lead by a quote when it can be done just as easily with prose. What is your reason for that? I have your talk page watched right now by the way, so I will catch responses. Thanks.--NortyNort (Holla) 08:48, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Staying off topic, is this change to RISC OS Open an improvement? Probably best to take any further discussion to Talk:RISC OS Open. Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 09:45, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks much better, flows a lot easier. I think it is an improvement.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks very much for taking a look. I hope you'll find Trevj/Archive/riscos.info to be an improvement too. --Trevj (talk) 10:27, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup, reads much better as well. I am not the computer buff I used to be, but I understand the subject well.--NortyNort (Holla) 11:23, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll incorporate it if/when the article is undeleted. --Trevj (talk) 12:13, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Riscos.info


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 * In connection with contesting this, if it is ultimately judged to qualify for deletion, I request that it be moved to WP:INCUBATE instead. Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 15:55, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You might want to make that request on the talk page of the article so the reviewing admin can see it. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 16:38, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice. --Trevj (talk) 19:00, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The speedy deletion was endorsed at WP:DELREV. I've now moved the (improved) article and listed it for feedback. --Trevj (talk) 14:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

NChannel
Could you please add a reference to the article you created recently which was NChannel. I cannot find anything which says that the company exists and the website on the Article links to a unrelated page. Thanks Wilbur2012(talk) 15:44, 23 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilbur2012 (talk • contribs)
 * Sorry - a hasty mistake by me. Please see below. --Trevj (talk) 18:08, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

NChannel
I moved the article to User:Trevj/NChannel because it was under construction. ... disco spinster   talk  16:59, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Apologies, that's where it was supposed to go! --Trevj (talk) 18:06, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No sweat. ...  disco spinster   talk  18:10, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool. I guess I'll wait a while (and a few more articles) longer before I request to be auto-patrolled! Cheers. --Trevj (talk) 18:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Clan of Xymox edits
You keep reverting to a very badly written OLD version of Dr.Mies. I suspect you are one and the same person Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. I noticed the message you recently left to a newcomer. Please remember: do not bite the newcomers. If you see someone make a common mistake, try to politely point out what they did wrong and how to correct it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.3.160.74 (talk • contribs)
 * I believe you're confusing me with another editor. I'm certain I've never edited Clan of Xymox, and this can be confirmed by checking the edit history. Regards. --Trevj (talk) 05:55, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Could be me. I've been reverting some good faith, but badly added, info over at that page by a multiple IP editor who just loves templates.  Not sure why they've identified you over a more obvious editor, but all part of life's rich tapestry.  We share a few interests, but not enough for us to be confused.  (I would have thought.)   a_man_alone (talk) 12:10, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Could be anything. The set of templates dropped on your talk page was rather random. A man alone, there's a pattern to those edits; more explanation and detail can be found through User talk:Knowitallfortoday, the now-blocked editor who edits as an IP and with some socks as well. Sorry you all got involved in this mess. Drmies (talk) 13:51, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, both of you, for the explanations. I'm relieved that it doesn't concern me. --Trevj (talk) 14:14, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. I'll tell you, I wish none of it concerned me! Happy days, Drmies (talk) 14:18, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

NTL moves
Hi there. Apologies for the huge delay in your move (I think it was because yours was probably the trickiest!) But, hopefully, I have done it correctly now, and I tried to preserve as much history as I could. I have left a note on Talk:NTL about the edit history and NTL (company) could do with some copyediting and tense changes. I have tried to quickly do as much as I could. Regards, Kilo T 11:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I thought it would be done eventually, so no problem about the delay. I'll take a look. --Trevj (talk) 12:01, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

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Closing merges
If you are going to close merge discussions, as you did at Cart/Float (horse-drawn, please remove the tags from the pages themselves. Thanks, Dana boomer (talk) 16:01, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. I was interrupted. I believed I'd removed the one from Float (horse-drawn) but had missed Cart because it was within a section. Apologies, anyway. I didn't see the need to alert you to the fact that they were closed because:
 * No rationale was given;
 * There were no comments supporting the proposal;
 * I judged that a reasonable amount of time had passed for the discussion to have concluded.
 * I've found that sometimes tags can stick around for too long and clutter up pages when there may be no support for proposals. If you still feel strongly that the pages shoulld be merged, I think it would be a good idea to state your rationale and re-open the discussion. Thanks and sorry if anything I've done is out of order. --Trevj (talk) 18:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, I just thought I'd remind you to remove the tags. Also not a big deal that you didn't notify me - I've started a discussion with one of the opposers on the merge, so we'll see if we can work something out. I'd watchlisted the float page but not the cart page, so hadn't seen the merge discussion. But, not a big deal, and thanks for your help in closing old merges - you are quite correct that they tend to hang around for a good while - I think there are even some out there from 2009 or earlier. Dana boomer (talk) 19:37, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for the explanation. I do feel that 'float' is a notable term in its own right, but saw no need to voice that opinion in the merge discussion, which appeared to be dead. If a future proposal arises and I spot it, I'll chip in then. Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 07:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)