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DYK nomination of Goéry Delacôte
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Speedy deletion declined: Rag pudding
Hello Trevj. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Rag pudding, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Move discussion has not yet been open for the required 7 days. Thank you. nancy 16:48, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware of that, so will brush up on the policy. -- Trevj (talk) 18:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I have performed the delete/move - this was a clear MOS and non-controversial move, and now meets similar pages such as Bread pudding, Blood pudding, etc. ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 18:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * -- Trevj (talk) 18:33, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Android version history
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Thank you!

 * Thanks. That's kind and is appreciated, even though I don't own a barn! -- Trevj (talk) 07:24, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I have created an article, which has been rejected


Hi Trev, I was born in Bristol. I have been living in Australia for over 30 years now. I have created an article, which has been rejected (twice, I think). I don't know what I have to do to fix it. The whole thing is so difficult first time around. Even the helpful instructions make no sense. Please, where do I start - to get some help and advice? Are you that person? If not, please point me in the right direction. Thank you. Nick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickelfixit (talk • contribs) 13:47, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. Bristol certainly has a thriving music scene, although I wasn't living here 30 years ago. Anyway, regarding Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Simon Leach (musician), the issue is the notability of the individual musician. WP:MUSICBIO states a number of criteria. I've done a quick online search, and while the band Little Birdy seems to be notable, that doesn't necessarily mean that related musicians are (see WP:NOTINHERITED). If there are further reliable independent sources discussing Simon Leach, they could help a lot. And no, I'm not the only helpful person around here by any means! You can also discuss this specific case at the Teahouse and/or ask for comments from participants at WP:WPMU. If notability isn't established for a separate article, short sections within the Little Birdy article could be an appropriate place to include some content on the musicians. And whatever the outcome is, I expect you'll agree there are plenty of other articles to work on. Cheers, and please let me know if any of that doesn't make sense. -- Trevj (talk) 14:31, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The welcome template recently placed on your talk page provides some links which should be helpful too. -- Trevj (talk) 14:52, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Four
Hi! Welcome to the fourth issue of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter for the Teahouse!


 * Teahouse pilot wraps up after 13 weeks After being piloted on English Wikipedia starting in February, the Teahouse wrapped up its pilot period on May 27, 2012. We expect this is just the beginning for the Teahouse and hope the project will continue to grow in the months to come!

Thank you and congratulations to all of the community members who participated - and continue to participate!


 * What you've all been waiting for: Teahouse Pilot Report is released! We look forward to your feedback on the methodology and outcomes of this pilot project.
 * ....and if a pilot report wasn't enough, the Teahouse Pilot Metrics Report is out too! Dive into the numbers and survey results to learn about the impact the Teahouse has made on English Wikipedia.
 * Teahouse shows positive impact on new editor retention and engagement
 * 409 new editors participated during the entire pilot period, with about 40 new editors participating in the Teahouse per week.
 * Two weeks after participating, 33% of Teahouse guests are still active on Wikipedia, as opposed to 11% of a similar control group.
 * New editors who participated in the Teahouse edit 10x the number of articles, make 7x more global edits, and 2x as much of their content survives on Wikipedia compared to the control group.


 * Women participate in the Teahouse 28% of Teahouse participants were women, up from 9% of editors on Wikipedia in general, good news for this project which aimed to have impact on the gender gap too - but still lots to be done here!
 * New opportunities await for the Teahouse in phase two as the Teahouse team and Wikipedia community examine ways to improve, scale, and sustain the project. Opportunities for future work include:
 * Automating or semi-automating systems such as invites, metrics and archiving
 * Experimenting with more ways for new editors to discover the Teahouse
 * Building out the social and peer-to-peer aspects further, including exploring ways to make answering questions easier, creating more ways for new editors to help each other and for all participants to acknowledge each other's efforts
 * Growing volunteer capacity, continuing to transfer Teahouse administration tasks to volunteers whenever possible, and looking for new ways to make maintenance and participation easier for everyone.

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Isobel Waller-Bridge
Dear Trevj, thank you for your edits to Isobel Waller-Bridge's page. My reason for starting the page was simply that i find her work interesting. I thought it would be good to put the agents website up there as proof of her work and as a way for people to learn more. I didn't think there would be such a problem with this girls page! As far as i can see she has been writing music for at least 5 years and is working regularly. All the best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noeline1984 (talk • contribs) 13:01, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. (cf. User talk:WereSpielChequers) -- Trevj (talk) 13:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * PS I did, of course, assume good faith - which is why I included your edits (as well as my own) in Articles for deletion/Isobel Waller-Bridge. But when I read of including the agent's website, the question appeared in my mind. Apologies if you think it was inappropriate for me to ask. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 14:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Can you solve this paradox please?
Though I got some support here, I still believe it is not an easy decision, since even Governments are confused. In air ticket they write one spelling but in airport entrance they have second spelling. I don't want my proposal/request to be accepted, I am more interested in correct decision (even if it goes against my request) can you please have a look here– Talk:Netaji_Subhash_Chandra_Bose_International_Airport? -- Tito Dutta  ✉  10:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. The RM seems logical to me, but I won't state a preference there because it could be viewed as being influenced by your alerting me to it here. However, I've commented regarding the two spellings there. Hope this helps. -- Trevj (talk) 10:38, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Castle Technology.png


A tag has been placed on File:Castle Technology.png, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Re-located, No Relevant incoming links

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 23:13, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. This tidies things up wrt #Orphaned non-free image File:Castle technology ltd logo.png. -- Trevj (talk) 20:01, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

AppleTalk
Please see Talk:AppleTalk Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:08, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've replied there. -- Trevj (talk) 19:17, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion
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Heart pine

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Family members (2)
Please see Teahouse/Questions -- PBS (talk) 09:04, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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Onion the dog
I rolled back your cutline edits as they were slightly inaccurate. Onion is not a Rhodesian Ridgeback. Onion is a Rhodesian Ridgeback mix. The cutline you rewrote reflected the wrong breed of dog. I am sorry. Quill and Pen (talk) 15:45, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. I somehow missed the "mix" bit. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 15:51, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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Please comment on Talk:Liquefied petroleum gas
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PMWA name change
Why was the title of this article changed from Progressive Mine Workers of America to Progressive Miners of America? As one can see from the reference titles, Progressive Mine Workers of America is the official name of the organization. Just as the United Mine Workers of America is known as the UMWA, the Progressive Mine Workers of America is known as the PMWA. I have never heard it referred lot as the Progressive Miners of America. So I don't see how that can be a common name for the PMWA. I now have in my personal collection a small pamphlet titled "Constitution of District No. 1 Progressive Mine Workers of America" (District No.1 covered Illinois). Article I, Name and Objects, Section 1, reads: "This organization shall be known as District No. 1 of the Progressive Mine Workers of America." I think anyone looking for information on the organization would look for Progressive Mine Workers of America. Please make an argument for your change, or I will request the change be reversed. Dwalls (talk) 16:17, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ at Talk:Progressive Miners of America. -- Trevj (talk) 18:36, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK Family (Willie Nelson's band)
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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Username policy
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ACC
Can you confirm the requested account, please? mabdul 10:25, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. I clicked on the link to do so earlier, and it seemed to return the same message as immediately after the submission. I've confirmed it again just now. It now says Your e-mail address has already been confirmed! Strange. -- Trevj (talk) 10:31, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Heh, you misunderstood me: I wanted to ask you only that you made the request (and not somebody other, stealing your identity). "A randomly generated password for TrevJ has been sent to [redacted]." - Regards, mabdul 10:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Sorry for the confusion! All sorted now. -- Trevj (talk) 11:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Aemulor
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 06:00, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Deaths in 2012
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DYK for Rover chair
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 17:45, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Starfighter
Well, it looks like the Star Wars fans will block the AfD. I doubt they'll do anything to improve the article though. I should have just merged and redirected it. We'll see how it goes. Barsoomian (talk) 04:41, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * (With reference to Talk:Starfighter.) Thanks. I'd already spotted the AfD, and have now !voted for a smerge. It's probably better for the AfD to (hopefully) determine consensus, than just using a merge/redirect. -- Trevj (talk) 07:50, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

TestDisk / PhotoRec and Conflict of Interest label
Hi Trevj, I'm not sure about the motivation for adding a Conflict of Interest label to the TestDisk / PhotoRec articles. It is probably true that program author Chris Grenier contributed a lot of the material in the articles, but these programs — particularly TestDisk — are really priceless gems in my experience. The author very generously helps users and answers user questions but doesn't require any payment. Test Disk is on virtually all of the Linux "System Rescue" disks, so it is widely respected, and it can understand a huge variety of different disk formats including old and new Windows and Apple disk formats. I was very very lucky to discover TestDisk on Wikipedia, and tried it as a last resort on a Windows XP / Vista / Linux triple boot system that had become unbootable as a result of my shrinking the Vista partition. I found it simply awesome, and would echo the comments of this user. The optional shareware fees that the author gets from these programs are surely small compensation for his dedication in creating and continuing to support them. This is not a case of somebody trying to promote their own high-profit commercial product and/or sell or promote something that is of little real value, so I would think it only fair to remove the "self-interest" label in this case. Best regards. LittleBen (talk) 13:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi and thanks for the note. I'm not saying that the edits by Cgrenier aren't neutral or encyclopedic. As I understand it, the connected contributor tag exists to aid transparency and is suggested at WP:COI. The declaration at fr:Utilisateur:Cgrenier is commendable. I used the software myself to help my parents over the weekend (if they're happy with the results, I believe the may make a small dontation to contribute to hosting fees). Anyway, I'll point Christophe here in case he has something to say. -- Trevj (talk) 13:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The warning label on the articles can only suggest to people that there *is* a conflict of interest — that the article is primarily there to make money for the author — or that it *does not* represent a Neutral Point of View. Since neither of these applies, and it is not an autobiography, I think that the warning labels are not fair and should be removed. If they are not removed then surely a heavy-handed editor with little experience of the field is going to come along and try to have them speedily deleted again. LittleBen (talk) 14:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The COI itself is undisputed: Christophe has a conflict of interest. Fortunately, it doesn't appear to negatively affect his editing. Regarding "heavy-handed" editors, those trawling through everything in would of course come across this article, among others. They may then investigate whether such articles need cleaning up (either doing so if needed, or tagging the article pages themselves). Any deletion nomination should be based on notability, which appears not to be an issue for these articles. If you feel that strongly about this, then I guess it should be discussed elsewhere (possibly Template talk:Connected contributor) so that more editors can get involved. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 14:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Tags on Wikipedia are surely meant to be used to indicate real problems. If there are no problems then surely flagging it feels insulting to such a dedicated contributor to the public domain. As it says quite clearly on his talk page, these programs are contributed under a GNU General Public License, which is like the CC licenses used on Wikipedia. Why not flag everybody's Wikipedia contributions as questionable, whether they are or not? That warning template has already been nominated for deletion, for obvious reasons as discussed here. I think that paid advocacy is a related issue. It's problematic if someone is *making a lot of money out of Wikipedia* (and creating problems for other editors to waste time finding and reverting) by *promoting a grossly non-neutral POV* on Wikipedia. But it's surely not problematic if it's a fair, balanced, and reasonably-neutral POV. LittleBen (talk) 00:36, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I do see what you're saying, but still think that including the talk page tag is good practice. However, it could perhaps do with some additional parameters. I suggested as much on the template talk page section you linked to above. Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 06:03, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Penis
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 * ❌ Consensus there is already towards including a summary of the human penis, per WP:SS. -- Trevj (talk) 10:18, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Train the trainers
Really hope you can get to one of the training sessions. We are looking to have the third one outside London. Any preferences? I too have a Primary PGCE and know the benefits that this can bring to all ages. Jon Davies WMUK (talk) 12:31, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for the message here. Regarding the PGCE, unfortunately I wasn't actually awarded the bit of paper. However, I'd already done some teaching before, and (as you'll no doubt appreciate) just following the course and completing the teaching practices imparts a great deal of useful knowledge.
 * As for a venue preference, I could selfishly suggest Bristol. However, Birmingham would be a little fairer for other potential trainees. Cheers, -- Trevj (talk) 12:49, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Plasma cosmology
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Bedminster Down
Hi as on the Bristol wikiproject you put you live in Bedminster and therfore the closest member to Bedminster Down school, I was wondering if there is a possibility you could take a picture for the article Bedminster Down School, if you don't want to or unable to then it's okay, just thought id ask you. Mark999 (talk) 23:14, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. Sorry for the delay. I thought I'd replied earlier but now remember my browser crashed! Yes, I'll be happy to take a photo for the article. I'll see if I can do it within the next few weeks, if that's OK. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 20:32, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not forgotten. I've just given myself a poke on this one. -- Trevj (talk) 11:38, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I took a couple of photos yesterday and will upload them to Geograph and then copy across to Commons for use in the article.
 * They're not wonderful because it's not easy to find good vantage points without entering the school grounds. And I didn't want to look too conspicuous, for fear of someone reporting me for taking photos around a place where there could be children!
 * Weather was overcast too.
 * When they're (finally) in place, see what you think - improved photos could probably be taken at an event open to the public, e.g. a spring fair or similar.
 * -- Trevj (talk) 08:32, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've finally uploaded these to Geograph, copied to Commons and included them in the article. Sorry for the extensive delay. -- Trevj (talk) 07:25, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Goéry Delacôte
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:04, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 08:29, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Kee Klamp
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 05:23, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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