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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Ngatikaura Ngati autopsy rear.jpg


A tag has been placed on File:Ngatikaura Ngati autopsy rear.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a non-free file with a clearly invalid licensing tag; or it otherwise fails some part of the non-free content criteria. If you can find a valid tag that expresses why the file can be used under the fair use guidelines, please replace the current tag with that tag. If no such tag exists, please add the tag, along with a brief explanation of why this constitutes fair use of the file. If the file has been deleted, you can re-upload it, but please ensure you place the correct tag on it.

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 * I think I understand your intentions, but the image was incorrectly tagged as a result of Talk:Autopsy images of Ngatikaura Ngati. I've replaced db-badfairuse with db-unfree. -- Trevj (talk) 05:02, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * As we're both involved editors there, my replacement results in an outcome similar to Hazard-Bot's previous tagging, which would have happened if neither of us had done anything. -- Trevj (talk) 09:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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Requests for adminship/Northamerica1000
Hey Trevj, in regard to your last comment on the RfA, please see its talk page, "Question". I think maybe someone should just take some action. Drmies (talk) 18:21, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I see what you mean, but left it a bit for others to perhaps do the research I'd not finished. Anyway, maybe it's not worth any hatting now. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 09:23, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Re:AFDs
Paul MacDermott (talk) 12:16, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Contentious images (possibly non-free)
Just a few brief notes to myself, to which others are more than welcome to contribute to if they wish. Background at Talk:Autopsy images of Ngatikaura Ngati and. I'll have a think. -- Trevj (talk) 16:51, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Close not reviewed by another editor after discussion at AN/RFC
 * Possible options:
 * Triumvirate review
 * Further review request at WP:AN
 * Follow-up RfC on article in due course, per WP:CCC
 * RfC on wider interpretation of WP:NFCC
 * For the moment, I think that this is not the best time of year for many of those in the English-speaking world to find the spare time to become involved in what has proved to be such a contentious issue.
 * Therefore, waiting at least a couple of months would probably be advisable.
 * Related discussion at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment. -- Trevj (talk) 14:24, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * For reference, also see Possibly unfree files. -- Trevj (talk) 13:07, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Also consider proposing use of External media, if a reasonably permanent external link is available. -- Trevj (talk) 14:06, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ubuntu (operating system)
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Withdrawn
Hi Trevj...I withdrew and the Rfa was closed before you posted your comment but I will say that the rules apply to everyone equally and universally. I have violated those rules more often than I should have, but have payed a price as well as was evident over the last 12 hours. I am willing to learn from past mistakes and if I think I might end up arguing with another editor, do what I can to avoid them. The biggest problems the website faces as far as the issue of civility are the repeat offenders that offer no apologies and those administrators that reinforce such behavior either by doing an unblock or by badgering the admin that tries to enforce the rules. It is for this reason that I feel that civility blocks are ineffective...because all too often they are not served in full because another admin reverses it. If a repeat offender sees early on in their editing career that the website has civility standards, then they have a better chance of improvement...Furthermore, adminsitrators that maintain too close a working relationship with a repeat offender are rarely able to or willing to enforce behavioral standards. Administrators have to be neutral in their actions and cease and desist from defending the indefensible.--MONGO 11:28, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * for replying. I've reverted q8, which is what I expect someone else would have done otherwise. Your last sentence above hits the nail on the head. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 11:40, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Fourier transform ion cyclotron resonance
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Teahouse reply about article behind paywall
In response to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_42#How_do_i_prove_a_source? this question you responded to], this article may be available to me at a library I am going to tomorrow. What do you need?— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:11, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi and thanks for the message. That's a very kind offer. After reviewing the discussion, I think that a copy of the text of the article may be useful. (Perhaps a photo or scan which could be uploaded somewhere.) Having said that, it'd probably be best to try to contact the originator of the question too. Let me know what you think. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 21:29, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 21:58, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Found it!— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 19:39, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * — Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:00, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Replied there. Let me know if you've not received it. -- Trevj (talk) 20:14, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

I got it. I can't forward it. Every email address I have seems to have problems. Putting it on the talk page may work.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:28, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way, I asked and an attachment was out of the question.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:32, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I just emailed the text to you. Copy and paste is what I did anyway.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 20:34, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. I've now had a closer look at previous discussions and see that there were some POV issues with the article in the past. I certainly think that presenting paywall newspaper coverage at Talk:Rainbow Family would be helpful. (It'd have to be marked as copyright, but AFAIK there wouldn't be a problem including the text on the talk page, in connection with article development, if adequately annotated - we can ask for comment from a copyright expert afterwards.) -- Trevj (talk) 20:41, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I've pasted it to the talk page and will have a further look when I get time. I've also asked at the Teahouse about the copyright issue. -- Trevj (talk) 21:16, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm glad I didn't follow your advice. It seemed to me to be a problem. I just saw the teahouse topic.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 19:08, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Very sorry about that. It wasn't too clever of me, but I'm sure there's no long-term harm done.Thanks again. -- Trevj (talk) 19:46, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Jetstreamer Talk 22:10, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm replying here because that discussion's now closed. The article was unreferenced and you judged it to be not notable. Sources were subsequently found, and we don't delete articles simply because the creator hasn't included any refs: sometimes topics are notable but the creation leaves a little (or sometimes much) to be desired. I this case, your nomination resulted in others finding sources which eluded you, and has resulted in a more reliable encyclopedic entry: this is an improvement, so thank you. I wonder if you've perhaps forgotten about a couple of points listed in the deletion policy. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 07:08, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

El Al destinations
I was unsure what evidence there should be... In the KDTW airport signage, there was an entry of El Al in the terminal directory (above the highway). It was only quite recently covered up. El Al used to use the Barry Terminal, which was closed only a couple years ago, around the time of the Delta/Northwest merger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.62.228 (talk) 21:13, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I've never edited . It looks from the history as if the issue was that your addition was unsourced. I suggest you take it up with the editor who removed the content via the article talk page. If you're unsure about that, please ask and I'll happily explain further. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 21:25, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

TH bottom-posting
Yo, Trevj, I saw your edit summary. Do you have Javascript disabled in your browser? That'd do it. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 21:19, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Not AFAIK. I'm using Xscope under Android (a tablet with a kb dock, in case you're wondering if I'm talking about a smartphone!). Javascript seems to be more reliable on this than when I use IE, but that's probably to be expected. Firefox is what I use on the laptop. Anyway, when I clicked on 'Ask a question' I then had another link appear which I clicked on. I did notice the  or whatever in the URL but it didn't ring any alarm bells because I'm used to seeing that elsewhere and forgot that it's supposed to be at the top! Sorry if that's not much help! Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 21:31, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

El Al (again). Sorry.
Sorry to bother you again.

I found an entry in the Wayback Machine, dated from 2010. =)

http://web.archive.org/web/20100119200006/http://www.detroit-airport.org/DTW/airlines.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.62.228 (talk) 21:20, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry but I don't have time to investigate this right now. Please refer to my reply above. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 21:26, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks to me as if that reference may have some validity, but I've not thoroughly investigated and it's not a subject area I'm familiar with. If you choose to reinclude (using that ref) then it can only be stated that the destination was valid at that point in time (per WP:ASOF). I strongly suggest that you take this to the talk page of the article or the relevant WikiProject for further clarification. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 20:07, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * PS I now see that you actually already have a message from the editor in question on your own talk page. -- Trevj (talk) 20:15, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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MADNESS-related discussion
I commented on your comments on User_talk:Jeff.science. I don't know if you are notified about those automatically. If so, I'll not post here again. Best, Jeff.science (talk) 22:49, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Per the notice at the top of this page when you edit it, I'm currently watching your talk page so should see replies there. You're of course free to post here again, but keeping conversations in one place (as you've done by replying on your page) is often clearer. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 09:17, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information. I don't do well at parsing all the graphical content on Wikipedia.  It's mostly a distraction for me.  I replied on my page and will continue to do so.  Best, Jeff.science (talk) 20:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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RE: Great Recession
Hi and thanks for performing the history swap. I'm still trying to fathom out the process you carried out which was discussed at Administrators' noticeboard/Archive242. Am I right in thinking that Talk:Great Recession/temp should be moved to ? And what happens about the merge, please? The valid question regarding this asked at Talk:Great Recession by Monty845 seems to remain unanswered. I had a quick look yesterday and it didn't look as if the content had been merged. Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 12:32, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, that should have been moved, and I've finished that (I think the redirect was blocking it). As for the merge... I have no idea whether enough content has been merged into the main article, but as it doesn't require an administrator to do that, I don't believe I need to say anything else about that. --  tariq abjotu  13:14, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Jessie Stephen
I have left some minor comments on your DYK nomination, Jessie Stephen, which require clarification. By the way, do you have access to the full text of the Oxford Dictionary entry? It has a lot more details that could be added. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:01, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. I've replied at Template:Did you know nominations/Jessie Stephen. -- Trevj (talk) 00:20, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

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 * Reinstated after unnecessary replacement with File:The Paris Review Issue TK.jpg - see Talk:The Paris Review. -- Trevj (talk) 21:43, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Koro (medicine)
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Sections on My Userpage
Hi. I have a question. I tried to make new sections on my userpage, but the sections have all squeezed onto the right. Could you have a look and tell me how to make new sections properly?Kuba.greenland (talk) 19:11, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * This is because the userboxes aren't treated in the same way as text. You can use clear or - before the start of each section which is affected in this way. Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 20:35, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot
Thanks a million.Kuba.greenland (talk) 15:20, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. -- Trevj (talk) 15:23, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Format
Was this the format you were going for? I was going to fix it for you, but after 2 edit conflicts I gave up. Looks like you got it worked out just fine without my help. ~Adjwilley (talk) 16:13, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Oppose rationale
 * 2) * Supporting bullet point 1.
 * 3) * Supporting bullet point 2. New paragraph under bullet point.
 * Thanks. It's an easy mistake to make (by both of us). I just checked through the history of and it looks in order now... I feared someone (e.g. me) may have accidentally edited out others' comments! Cheers. -- Trevj (talk) 16:26, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Hand-coding
Hey all :).

I'm dropping you a note because you've been involved in dealing with feedback from the Article Feedback Tool. To get a better handle on the overall quality of comments now that the tool has become a more established part of the reader experience, we're undertaking a round of hand coding - basically, taking a sample of feedback and marking each piece as inappropriate, helpful, so on - and would like anyone interested in improving the tool to participate :).

You can code as many or as few pieces of feedback as you want: this page should explain how to use the system, and there is a demo here. Once you're comfortable with the task, just drop me an email at and I'll set you up with an account :).

If you'd like to chat with us about the research, or want live tutoring on the software, there will be an office hours session on Monday 17 December at 23:00 UTC in. Hope to see some of you there! Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:37, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about this. I hope to get involved when I have the time, and will postpone signing up until then. In the mean time, I'm (partly) following Wikipedia talk:Article Feedback Tool/Version 5. -- Trevj (talk) 07:38, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Jessie Stephen
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 08:23, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

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