User talk:Triddle/Archive 3

Archive 1 Archive 2

Stubsensor
I must say. It's awfully nice to be working with you again. Been far too long. :) --Woohookitty(meow) 09:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, when I saw stubsensor on the list, I said "Triddle!". I'm not kidding. :) Little things make me happy. :-D But good to see it back. It looks like it's about the same % as always. About 1/3rd are charts and such. Everything else is way too long for the tag. --Woohookitty(meow) 02:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Triddle! I have seen that things are "heating up" (for lack of a better term?) for the stubsenor... I just wanted to see if you're aware of any mistakes I've made, or if I've ticked anyone off. Thanks for your help, and your sincere "welcome to wikipedia!". Sonrisasgrandes 13:39, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * :-0 I checked to see what I could do, and found nothing that wasn't already complete! Am I missing something?  Sonrisasgrandes 13:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I helped a bit on Stubsensor before I went on vacation, and everything was done when I came back! Any chance of some new lists coming soon? Thanks for your great project. cøøki ə Ξ (talk) 23:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi and thanks for the support. I'm working on making stubsensor even more accurate right now; when I get it working again (I had to get destructive on it to become ultimately constructive) I'll put the new cleanup project back at the cleanup projects template. If its not so far in the future that I forget, I'll even leave you a note so you know when the new list is ready. Take it easy! Triddle 00:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't agree that Syrian Jews should be de-stubbed. There are still some headings not filled in, while several other headings (e.g. Arrival of Spanish Jews, and Syrian Jews in Israel) have only snippets of information and are still waiting for the basic facts. --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) 10:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the Stubsensor award it is much appreciated. Ksbrown 21:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I like the Stub Sensor project and it is well organized so it ages well.  I would hope some other projects adopt a similar format.  Keep up the good work :) Jeepday 14:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Currently there are 6 sections left (about 120 pages) on Computer help desk/cleanup/stubsensor/20060810. They all have been signed up for. Are you ready to run a new query? Jeepday 17:22, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I would be happy to help with sorting and what ever other prep works needs to be done to get a new Stub Sensor up and running as Computer help desk/cleanup/stubsensor/20060810 is 100% complete. Jeepday 15:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Just here to see when the next stubsensor project might come up. I certainly kept me busy for a while! Canadianshoper 00:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * In reference to the current stub sensor User:Triddle/stubsensor/20070206 may i suggest placing help info from the older stubsensor pages (for eg move all the info from User:Triddle/stubsensor/20050421 into the latest stub list and keep that page as a historical reference; (you're job and how to help) even though they are similar, i found different (and sometimes more helpful info) on some of the older stub project pages and so having one page with all the info of what to do, when to consider having a expand tag or when to consider when to remove it etc would be cool... and you can leave the older completed projects with what was achieved for example... Anyway that's just my 2 cents, thanks for creating an excellent and easy way to contribute to wikipedia hehe, just out of curiosity, is the list generated from a random 10,000 stubs or is thats how many stubs are present that might not be stubs anymore? Cya later.calaka 08:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank u very very much :). Shall keep up the good work. Cant wait till the next 10,000 articles :). calaka 06:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The current stubsensor is finish. Dish out 20 K articles next time ;). calaka 13:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello
Hello Triddle I'm Aeon of the Wikipedia Mediation Cabal. Jake as requested Mediation in an issue with images on Beard. Here is the Mediation Cabal File on the matter. Mediation Cabal is an informal orginization so there is nothing to lose. Please reply to this as whether you accept or not. Aeon Insane Ward  00:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I take it your accepting the Medation then?  Aeon  Insane Ward  01:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Roger that I will set up a small page in my user space for the mediation. I will get back to you with the page.  Aeon  Insane Ward  01:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Aeon1006/medcab/Beard Image Mediation If you could go there and make your opening statement so we can get the ball rolling. Thanks for being willing to talk this out. Aeon Insane Ward  02:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Something to consider
Hello, Triddle. I noticed that you have accepted mediation by Aeon1006 and I just wanted to let you know that another user and I have interacted with him in the past, while he was an Advocate, and he did his client a huge disservice. Instead of trusting and representing his client, Aeon1006 actually took sides immediately and was clearly partisan against the party he had promised to represent! The allegations are attached. He recently resigned from the AMA, and agreed to become a mediator, for which your case is the very first that he's mediated. I just wanted to bring this to your attention, in case he decides to "take sides" again. UCRGrad 05:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Copy/pasted: I am concerned about the recent behavior of Aeon1006, a volunteer advocate of Wikipedia’s Association of Members’ Advocates (AMA).

It has come to my attention that Aeon1006 violated the trust of his client, Insert-Belltower, and acted in such a manner that was unbecoming of an advocate.

The facts of the matter are as follows:

On July 11, 2006, Aeon1006 agreed to be an advocate for Insert-Belltower, who was seeking help defending against hostile efforts of editors Amerique and WHS.

On July 12, 2006, Aeon1006 sought statements from Insert-Belltower (I-B), but strangely, also an opposing opinion’s from I-B’s direct opposition, Amerique and WHS. He did so without consulting with his client, I-B.

On July 12, 2006, Aeon1006 requested that ElKevbo bring his opinion into the discussion. ElKevbo was a party known to oppose I-B, and his testimony was in opposition to I-B’s cause.

On July 13, 2006, WHS (opposing side) complained to Aeon1006 that Insert-Belltower had made unauthorized changes to his user talk page. In response, Aeon1006 wrote “Thank you I will investigate that and notify Mackensen [admin].” Instead of advocating on behalf of his client, Aeon1006 attempted to bring charges against Insert-Belltower with the admins. In fact, he ratted out his client to this admin on his talk page.

On July 14, 2006, Aeon1006 attempted to required all editors to obey the “fairness of tone” policy in their TALK discussions. However, Aeon1006 erroneously applied WP:NPOV#Fairness_of_tone to TALK discussion, when this rule specifically applies to article content.

On July 15, 2006, Aeon1006 demanded, in a public discussion, that his own client apologize to individuals for sockpuppetry, even though I-B’s alleged sockpuppetry did not actually affec any of these particular individuals (occurred at a different time).

On July 15, 2006, Aeon1006 wrote that his client was “stubborn.”

On July 16, 2006, Aeon1006 began assisting I-B’s direct opposition, Amerique – volunteering to submit an RfC against I-B’s side of the disagreement. As an advocate, Aeon1006 had access to privileged and confidential information from I-B – Aeon1006 now violates that privileged role and has agreed to use his knowledge to support the party that originally opposed his client.

A quick read through each of Aeon1006’s statements on his desk reveals that NONE of his comments were in support of his client. About a third of them were in opposition to I-B, and another third were essentially praising I-B’s opposition. As you can see, even from day #1, (July 12), Aeon1006 failed to fulfill his duty as I-B’s advocate, despite his promise to do so. It is certainly possible that Aeon1006 did not agree with his client’s position. If that were the case, then the appropriate and responsible action, under his duty as AMA advocate, would be to let I-B know that he couldn’t represent him. Instead, Aeon1006 took actions that hurt his client’s position. Aeon1006 never gave I-B the benefit of the doubt, or discussed with him in private the best way to handle the case. A quick review of I-B’s talk page will reveal almost zero help from Aeon1006. The last straw, was when Aeon1006 took advantage of his role as confidant and privileged position as I-B’s advocate to file an RfC against I-B’s party on behalf of Amerique, I-B’s direct opposition.

All of the above can be confirmed by reading Aeon1006's talk page, where he supposedly acted as an advocate for I-B, but instead hindered him and supported his opposition instead. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Aeon1006/AMA

REGARDLESS of whether I-B was in the right or wrong (and I believe I-B has been a valuable editor), Aeon1006’s conduct as supposed-advocate was a breach of trust and highly unprofessional. In fact, Aeon1006 would be hard pressed to demonstrate that he offered any advocacy at all, especially in the context of all the harm he did in his role. Such behavior is not consistent with the core goals and values of the Association of Member’s Advocates. Aeon1006 should not have the opportunity to violate the trust of another editor again. As such, I hereby request that Aeon1006 be removed from the AMA.


 * Hey Triddle, just to give you a heads up, This user has a conduct RfC on him which will most likley go up to ArbCom. Several Editors have issues with him and two editors have posted on his talk page for him to cease Wikistalking.  I'm very sorry he got you invloved in his dispute.  Hopefuly this will not derail the Mediation that you are in now.  But if you feel that I'm able to handle the mediation then I will understand.  Aeon  Insane Ward  00:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi, Jake. My purpose was not to "derail" the mediation you have in progress, as I have no idea what your dispute is about, and I am a strong believer in the mediation process when it is appropriate.  I used to also have a firm belief in the principle of advocacy, right up until I witnessed Aeon1006 turn against the client he promised to help.  I wouldn't expect you to do anything differently with respect to this mediation, but I think it's important that you are aware of Aeon1006's behavior as an supposed-advocate.  If you feel that you didn't want to be alerted of this, please let me know and I will apologize.  Personally, I would want to know if the supposedly-neutral person I had agreed to accept mediation from had done with Aeon1006 did.  UCRGrad 01:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Greetings
Hey Triddle, I'm spending some time over at the psych wiki. Just wanted to say hi. It was good talking with you the other day. I hope things are going well for you! Sonrisasgrandes 16:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC) :)

Beard Picture
I have gone trough as you have requested and so far all it seems to be is a simple content disupte (Happens from time ot time), neither side has really broke Wikipedia Policy so it should be a simple matter. Hope this clears everything up. Aeon Insane Ward  01:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Aeon on Wikibreak.
Hello Triddle, since the mediation is on hold, I'm taking this time to take a short wikibreak. I will be back this weekend if you all wish to continue then. Thanks! Aeon Insane Ward  22:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Not a problem, and thanks. I was looking into the redirects, but I wasnt sure if that project was over or not. Are there similar sub-projects under the Project? SynergeticMaggot 02:33, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * On another note. I've finished off whats left of the stubs. So...whats next? Please respond on my talk when you get a chance. Thanks. SynergeticMaggot 18:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

StubSÈnsˆr
Tridds, old chap, Stubsensor's pretty useless at foreign languages, n'est pas? Admittedly, tricky blighters, these accented characters, but not beyond your inestiamable electrical powers. Add a few more kVA, that should do the trick. Why does Standard Liège end up as Standard LiËge, eh, eh? Why so many dodgy redlinks in the latest version. best wishes &c --Tagishsimon (talk)

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Requests for adminship/Elonka
Thank you very much for your support in my RfA. Unfortunately consensus was not reached, and the nomination was not successful. However, I do appreciate your comments, am still in support of the Wikipedia project, and will continue to contribute without interruption. Thanks again! --Elonka 19:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

New Photo Matching Service
Hi there,

I'm contacting you because you listed yourself at Wikipedians/Photographers. You might be interested in a new wikiproject page that lists photographers and articles that need photos by location. The page is located at Photo Matching Service or WP:PMS GabrielF 00:18, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey Triddle
I assume you've forgotten long ago about Uncyclopedia, but for reasons I found funny, I have put up your self-made image for featuring, because too true, it's just funny. --Signor 02:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Converting video
Follow the instructions I wrote here. Those work in most cases, except it tends to produce AV synch problems, so it's basically unusable for things that require good audio synchronization (like a speech). Raul654 04:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

User User:MureninC
Kindly tell this user not to call pages I've worked hard on to be the 'worst page in the WIKI,' and then insert multiple factual errors, not in my text. I'm amazed he has contacted you about civility, because in fact he started by explicitly slandering my WIKI contributions! He was the initiator. None of his claimed flaws in my articles were shown upon debate to be flaws, but to be misunderstandings, derived from his lack of knowledge of the subject matter. I've had to spend a considerable amount of time correcting factual errors he has inserted all over the IT sections, which I could have better used for writing. Timharwoodx 20:37, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

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Survey Invitation
Hi there, I am a research student from the National University of Singapore and I wish to invite you to do an online survey about Wikipedia. To compensate you for your time, I am offering a reward of USD$10, either to you or as a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. For more information, please go to the research home page. Thank you. --WikiInquirer 21:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)talk to me

Yay!
I'll get going on that ASAP. Thanks for letting me know :) --WoohookittyWoohoo! 02:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

StubSensor
Hey, i'm a little concerned at your recent use of the StubSensor. You've been removing stubs from a number of Australian articles which are legitimate stubs and replacing them with section stubs. The main issue with this is that removing these stubs stops the articles being correctly classified and left in the relevant stub category for improvment and action by relevant persons. I'd appreciate it if you could get in touch with me on this, because while I can understand the need for stub cleanup - this process isn't necessarily helpful to anyone. Thanks Thewinchester (talk) 08:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi and thank you...
Hi, I'm Neranei, and I just joined stubsensor a few days ago; I have finished 3 sections so far. I just have 1 question. If there is an article, say, about a train station closed in the 1950s, and there is one long-ish paragraph, and a ton of charts, is that considered a stub? Also, if there is an article about an obscure football/soccer team that has 1 medium paragraph and a ton of charts, is that a stub? What should I do in those situations? Please leave a not on my talk page, and thanks for helping Wikipedia, aka the greatest repository for humand knowledge and graffitti. Thanks! Neranei 22:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, thank you
Thank you for your advice. I really appreciate the help! Neranei 01:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi, sorry that I am posting yet again but...
I was wondering if you know when there will be another batch of articles for Stubsensor. Thanks! Neranei 15:46, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Stubsensor
Thanks, I really appreciate the info! Neranei 22:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

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Unreferenced articles
We ended up doing some category shuffling and setting up the project Unreferenced articles. We started with Dec 2005 and are up to June 2006 now (some were small). If you look at the history you can see where we tried a couple of different approaches. I think it has pretty much settled down into a workable version. I go through every few days and just count how many articles are in the category and update the graph. Take a look and see what you think, the project turned into a broader cleanup then just changing tags. Jeepday (talk) 13:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Reactivating WikiProject Rave
I just became aware of the project so I joined and I have reactivated it from its status of inactive – WikiProject Rave. __meco 10:46, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Cookies and a question
Hello! I just wanted to give you a plate of cookies for being a Wikipedian. As for the question, do you have any updates on the next stubsensor? Thanks, and enjoy the cookies! Peace and Wikilove, Neranei 01:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much. I really appreciate the update! I know that many people appreciate your contributions, and many of us are looking forward to the next stubsensor. Thanks again! Nera nei 15:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

IRC cloak request
I am Triddle on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/Triddle. Thanks. --Triddle 21:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

User:Triddle/stubsensor/20070716
Just did my first section on this run. First question would be how old is the data set you are running the query against? I did find a few nice big articles with out stub tags. When I checked the history all but one had lost the tag in the last few weeks. So my first impression is that it is pretty clean run. If I notice anything else I will let you know. Jeepday (talk) 03:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Testing, the summary edit is wrong, I built a redirect now I am testing that I have written it correctly before I change them all. Yep that does it I will go fix them. Jeepday (talk) 03:31, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey hey, it does appear that there are some articles that dont even have a stub tag yet are very large articles, Here are some examples

That is from the first page on the first 4 sections (so in 80 articles whether needing stub removal or not (thus having a stub tag) a few showed up never needing to be on the list)... i did notice a few cases in the last stubsensor project so i didnt take note of it this time thinking bugs r bound to happen...Ill keep a list (such at the one above) of articles that never had a stub (for a while) in the first place and get back to you in a few months time. Cya :)calaka 09:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oregon
 * List of unused highways
 * History of medicine
 * Simoun (anime)
 * Battle of Berlin
 * Interstate 40
 * Kevin Mitnick
 * The Goonies
 * Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe
 * Kirby Company
 * Characters in Spirou et Fantasio
 * Asami Jō

AWB
I don't really like fragmented discussions, so I replied to your message here. :-)  Mel sa  ran  04:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Your conduct on the Gitmo page
Hi, I'm replying to your comment on my talk page.

I wonder if you have actually tried to read through the whole 19 printed pages of the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. Any person who reads this article will find that it is hopelessly one-sided. Take a look at the contribution history of the authors of this article like Geo Swan and please tell me with a straight face that they are not in fact on a POV crusade - to attack the US government and its conduct on the war on terror. Geo Swan has authored tens if not hundreds of articles, each one about some suspected terrorist and presuming that he is automatically innocent while the US government and the men and women who work in it are automatically guilty of false imprisonment, torture and human rights violations.

At some point, I have to stand up and say that Wikipedia cannot be used for one-sided propaganda that slanders the men and women who are prosecuting a difficult and dangerous war on terror. Fair criticism of actual abuse and human rights violations is always correct and acceptable, especially when placed in context of the monstrous atrocities committed by the other side. One-sided propaganda and slander of my country is not acceptable. WP:CIVIL cannot degenerate into WP:DONTEVERCRITICIZE.

I will point out that I am contributing constructively to the article as follows:
 * I have marked up the sections that are unbalanced and junk. To his credit, Hyposadist has started to clean up some of them.  My pointing out that this article is a POV crusade has had some constructive effect already.
 * I am working offline on a new outline that will replace this 19 page research article with a 3 page summary that is actually balanced and encyclopedic. This is no small task given that the article in its current state has become unstructured rambling.  Since you care about editing in a constructive environment, I encourage you to contribute to this effort and help verify the outcome.

Thanks for your civil language and I look forward to working with you as well :-) Kevinp2 15:53, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Response to: Formal block warning - your behavior must change
Note: This is a response to this "formal block warning" Triddle: I responded to your first "warning" above.  You never acknowledged my response above in any manner , thus leading me to believe that I had explained my position to your satisfaction. Now I find a block warning from you. If you want to intervene in this dispute, can I ask you to stay consistently involved?

You said I could ask you questions and I do have some: Thanks for engaging in this discussion. FYI, I have decided to not engage with Geo Swan any more. However, I will continue to monitor his articles, and flag or correct the most obvious and egregious POV violations. Making sure that articles are NPOV is the duty of everyone, not just me. Kevinp2 03:18, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What would  you  do when you find someone, who appears to be pushing a point of view in hundreds of articles? When every new article is as slanted as this one?  When these articles always cast an entire country and often specific named men and women in a disreputable light?  Is it your position that Wikipedia's policies demand that you stay quiet and never challenge this ?  Is this really your understanding of Wikipedia's policies?
 * Assume_Good_Faith specifically points out that This guideline does not require that editors continue to assume good faith in the presence of evidence to the contrary. Do you think that Geo Swan's contribution history can be reasonably perceived as evidence to the contrary, whether you ultimately agree or disagree?
 * Are you a Wikipedia administrator? If not, do you have the power to block anyone?  This is a serious question.  I have looked and cannot find the authority under which you would block me.  A claim of power must be reasonably accompanied by the authority under which it is made.


 * Triddle, I have another response on my talk page. Thanks Kevinp2 14:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

WP:WQA
Hi Triddle. Just wanted to inform you a post regarding you has come up at Wikiquette Alerts (brought by  Kevinp2). Per Wikiquette, I'm just letting you know. You're welcome to come over and take a look, but the consensus seems to be that your conduct wasn't uncivil. -- B figura (talk) 23:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply from SpigotMap
Hello. I will continue to stand by my view that trivia sections are crap. Am I being uncivil against trivia sections? Anyways, I didn't set the ultimatum, some other editor did. I will continue acting the way I do towards the other editor involved as long as they keep harassing me. Thanks for visiting! Spigot Map  03:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello. I am reviewing the unblock request of this editor. Could you please provide me with diffs for the uncivil or disruptive conduct he was blocked for? Thanks, Sandstein 05:30, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm also looking into this unblock request. Did you notice, when you blocked this user for 7 days, that you did so almost a full 24 hours after the behavior stopped? SQL(Query Me!) 18:23, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry to bug you with another message so soon... I just want to make sure I had this straight. Was the 48 hour block, for the same incident as the 7 day block? SQL(Query Me!) 18:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Block of SpigotMap
As the user has asked for a review of his block, I'm looking into your block of SpigotMap this afternoon. After Jpgordon unblocked, can you point to where the user broke the three revert rule with more than three reverts on the same page in a 24-hour period? Sam Blacketer 20:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I have now read everything relevant. I find a week-long block for an old non-violation of the three revert rule to be excessive and punitive, and the circumstances in which you applied it after another admin had overturned your block are questionable. I am going to unblock SpigotMap, with advice on how he should conduct himself. Sam Blacketer 21:00, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I concur with Sam above, and would have unblocked the user if he had not done it. I find it puzzling that you chose to issue a WP:3RR block even though the user had very clearly not violated that rule, and moreover, that you chose to issue a block at all immediately after your earlier block was overturned, given that the supposed civility problems of that user remain (to me at least) unsubstantiated. In the future, you might want to consider asking at WP:AN if you are unsure how to properly deal with users that you think are behaving disruptively. Thanks, Sandstein 21:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)