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Categorising redirects
Hi, re this edit, where does WP:MOS rule out WP:Categorizing redirects? That one seemed appropriate to me under the heading "Redirects whose target title is incompatible with the category". – Fayenatic  L ondon 18:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As you have not replied, I have gone ahead and reverted your edits to that page and this. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:37, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Hymac listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Hymac. Since you had some involvement with the Hymac redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). GregJackP  Boomer!   23:38, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

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Blaenau Ffestiniog mine images
Hello Trident13,

I saw that you are one of the few who did some edits related to slate mining in Wales. As part of a big upload of images from the Dutch Heritage Agency there are also uploaded a few (40) images which are probably from the Oakley mine in Blaenau Ffestiniog. If you're interested could you look at the Category on commons whether my presumption is correct?

Greets, Basvb (talk) 20:11, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

yes official confirmation is still not made, acctually i'm a liverpool supporter that' why made it earlier edit (sorry for that). Please write loan in front of Espanyol section heading.

Philippe Coutinho
yes official confirmation is still not made, acctually i'm a liverpool supporter that' why made it earlier edit (sorry for that). Please write loan in front of Espanyol section heading.

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Taff Vale Railway not a pre-grouping railway?
Hi, why did you  from Taff Vale Railway? It's definitely a pre-grouping railway: it was named in the First Schedule to the Railways Act 1921 as a constituent company of the Western Group. -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:52, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If you look, Category:Early Welsh railway companies includes, hence covers both through sub-cat. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 19:54, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's correct. The description at the top of shows that it's for those railways that were grouped in 1923 to form the 'Big Four' railway companies. Therefore, any railway not actually named in the First Schedule to the Act should not be a member of that category; and since  includes many lines that had amalgamated long before the Grouping,  should not be a sub-cat of . -- Red rose64 (talk) 20:05, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Logo on The Berkeley hotel entry
Hi, I am a contractor for the Maybourne Hotel Group and I've noticed the logo of The Berkeley Hotel Wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Berkeley) is not the hotel's current one. Can it be updated? http://www.the-berkeley.co.uk

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Insole Court
Hi Trident 13, I just happened to go into Wikipedia and noticed that a lot had been changed since the last time I looked, and there were several errors which I thought best to correct - having studied the history of Insole Court for five years, along with the Insole Court Heritage Research Group. The pic of Ty Fry Lodge isn't Insole Court Lodge on Fairwater Road, it is a former Insole owned property in the Vale of Glamorgan. Insole Court Lodge is a grey stone building. Sorry if I'm not aware of the correct way of doing these amendments but I've never been on here before and just wanted it to be right. Don't even know if I'm doing this properly.InsoleCourtresearcher (talk) 22:16, 14 February 2013 (UTC) Best wishes, Insole Court researcher.

Rachael Hodges
Hi there, I'm making a couple of small alterations on Rachael's behalf. Could you leave the page as I leave it as she doesn't feel it is entirely accurate?


 * Hi, thanks for your message. Firstly, you are removing references, and secondly you have left no edit summary. Please insert your reasonsing into your edit summary. However, personally seems a bit "strang" that you decide to edit on the same day as the BBC NUJ strike???? Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 23:24, 18 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I would argue that it seems odd to post the page and make a point of the fact that she worked on that strike day. Furthermore, you have included a number of "facts" that are simply incorrect. She did not train on the BBC grad scheme and she's not a Cardiff City fan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giantblando (talk • contribs) 23:30, 18 February 2013 (UTC)


 * As I reinserted the page, if something is in there then its in there because it happens to appear in a reference - which you removed. However, I accept that on occasions, certain facts change and certain journalists don't always get things right. Also may I point out or rules on Conflict of Interest at WP:COI. As her partner, you are presently crossing these. I hence in my last edit reinserted the Telgraph reference that you removed BUT removed the ref to the 2010 strike. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 23:44, 18 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, it wasn't my intention to remove references or overstep boundaries - merely to ensure what was on there was correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giantblando (talk • contribs) 00:11, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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Country houses
Hi, can you add new entries to List of country houses in the United Kingdom, I added your Powys entries, thanks! Sealyham House might also interest you.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld  15:09, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your message - I hope that this finds you well! Yes, happy to do so, and have added Treffgarne Hall to the list. Sealyham House is interesting, and will take a bit of research to improve. I will also try and clear out some of those read links on the List. My enjoyment at present is finding photo's over at commons, and a lacking article in the main space. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 00:52, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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Vandal1 - removal of Infobox from Savile Row
Hello, I'm Trident13. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Savile Row because it didn't appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Simply, removal of an infobox is vandalism, pure and simple. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 14:16, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I noticed you have a preference for the infobox. I have restored some edits you undid when you reverted, though kept the information you want in the info box. I don't think that the box is adding anything of value to the article, as the information it mentions is already mentioned in the lead. Infoboxes are not mandatory - see Manual_of_Style_(infoboxes). Shall we have a discussion on the article talkpage as the best way forward? See Talk:Savile_Row  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  15:20, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

LMS Royal Scot Class 6100 Royal Scot
You seem to have an interest in this page. In case you don't notice it, on the Talk page, I am questioning some odd English [] Myrvin (talk) 09:44, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Sealyham House
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Royal Ballet School
Good call on this edit. I had been meaning to do it for a while but just didn't get round to it.--ukexpat (talk) 18:13, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

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Bolckow, Vaughan
Are you about to create an article on Witton Park Ironworks? Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:24, 22 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi thanks for your message! I'm into railways, and just happened to stumble across it - but it would seem worthy of its own article. I have put in a redirect at present to the Witton Park Colliery article, and if I can collect enough information (quick serach didn't show much more than is there at present; probably have to get to the books to do it justice), then conclude that yes it would be worth expanding. Are you working on one? Hope that helps - Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 21:38, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Murder of Anni Dewani
Hi, could you take a look at the Murder of Anni Dewani article as you were the creator of the article. A user has today made several huge edits and removals of information that seem to have changed the article into a pro-South Africa article in the stance of guilt or not of Annis murderers. Alot of info removed also concerning South Africas poverty problems that were properly sourced. If you find time please take a look, I am quite suspicious of the edits made. I am also thinking the user has some connection to the case as he has removed alot of the information pointing to guilt of the people involved in her murder.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:12, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your message, I hope that I find you well! Well spotted, and I agree with your conclusion. So I went in and reversed the removal of the ref'd sections, and dropped him a message on his talk page. As I said to him it is always difficult to be neutral during these in-progress cases, but it is essential that we record both sides of the debate. Best Regards, --Trident13 (talk) 19:14, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I am not sure but seems like the user is on it again. Best regards.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Should we suspect anything less?! I can see his point, but Dewani hasn't yet had his defence. Reverted, vandal1 tag on his talkpage, I suspect a long-haul opportunity here as he hasn't communicated yet (never a good sign). Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 18:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Trident13 and BabbaQ - Did you read (a) the comments I left at each alteration and (b) the more extensive reasons posted on the Murder of Anni Dewani talk page. I am at a loss to understand BabbaQ's accusation that I have removed inFormation pointing to "guilt of people involved". Please substantiate. Secondly, the two most recently removed passages were done under WP:BLP, as made clear in the talk page. I have very solid reasons for removing that material, at least in its present form. A little courtesy would go a lot further than your present attitude! I can see this heading to dispute resolution already! afd (talk) 03:57, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

The appropriate forum for discussion of edits to the Murder of Anni Dewani article is the Murder of Anni Dewani talk page (see WP:OWN). I have already left plenty of comment there, which you have not responded to. You are already exhibiting a bullying behaviour by your above use of vandal1 tag without replying to even one of the issues I have raised. As regards NPOV, you could start by practicing what you preach. BabbaQ please explain what do you mean by "pro-South Africa" in this context. Meanwhile, noting the WP:BLP policy, I shall have no alternative but to take this straight to arbitration if you don't make a genuine attempt to discuss the issues, which are there on the Murder of Anni Dewani talk page awaiting your reply. afd (talk) 08:34, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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Tyntesfield
I have reinstated the advertisement template at the head of Tyntesfield, as you removed the template without addressing the concern raised.

My concerns are twofold:-

1) The advertizing nature of the section; just to pick on two examples:-


 * Access times ... should be checked before travelling.


 * (NOTE: on busy or popular days, tickets to the house will sell out quickly, often before midday).


 * In addition to the advertizing problem, these examples also breach MOS:BOLD and WP:EL

2) The travel-guide nature of the section
 * As stated in WP:NOTTRAVEL
 * Wikipedia is not the place to recreate content more suited to entries in hotel or culinary guides, travelogues, and the like. Notable locations may meet the inclusion criteria, but the resulting articles need not include every tourist attraction, restaurant, hotel or venue, etc

You did amuse me, however, with "Charges for entry are mad" :-) - Arjayay (talk) 15:18, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking me to take a look at this article - sorry for the delay I have been away on holiday. I think you have done a lot of good work on this. I have been through and made some changes - particularly links to disambiguation pages - please check I haven't changed the meaning. I have also corrected some typos and removed some of the "advertorial" from the visitor experience section. There are a few things which I think need your attention:
 * The lead is too short to summarise the article
 * There are a few points where I think further references are needed (shown with cn tags)
 * I didn't know how to correct "All stone was accurately matched to the original, with much a Cotswold oolitic limestone from Veyzeys quarry near Tetbury." but the grammar needs looking at!
 * Lots of the books need page numbers in the references
 * Badgers - the proposed badger cull (which I thought was on hold) would cover West Somerset & not include the North Somerset area
 * If you'd like to take another look at some of them, then I think I could put it up to a B grade & suggest nomination for GA - if you'd like to work together to get it up to that standard I'd be happy to help but busy in the near future catching up at work after 10 days away.&mdash; Rod talk 16:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I've been back and had a go at some of these issues. Would you be kind enough to take another look?&mdash; Rod talk 16:45, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

I'd done a bit more on this one & asked User:Giano (who has written lots of great articles on architecture etc) to take a look. You might like to see some of the comments on the talk page.&mdash; Rod talk 20:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * A variety of others problems including copyvios have been identified in this article - it would be great if you could engage with the group of editors now working on it or on the talk page.&mdash; Rod talk 10:05, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

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I don't - what I'm insisting upon is that the name Moreton Junction not be applied to the junction for the Didcot, Newbury & Southampton line. The DN&S joined the main line at Didcot East Junction, the same point that Didcot East Curve leaves the relief line; that's approximately at 51.609°N, -1.2358°W. Moreton Junction is at 51.6019°N, -1.2145°W, where there are crossovers allowing trains to cross from relief to main or vice versa; it's named after the nearby villages of North Moreton and South Moreton. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:32, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

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Category: Cycle Manufactures of the UK. Sub catergories
Hello Trident,

Why have you set up sub categorizes on this category list? And then why put Bromptons as a sub catergory, since they are essentially a single design manufacturer? I can understand Raleigh more as they had several sub brands underneath them. I have not been involved with creating or editing pages much on Wikipedia so I don't want to change things without asking.

Gav — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gav Newman (talk • contribs) 14:46, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Cats are one way of organising information, making it easier to access - Lists are another. In this case the article on the creator of Brompton Bicycle was not associated except in the article, and neither was the championship. Creation of a sub-cat under UK Manufacturers allowed all three to be accessed in one point. Hope that helps - Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 20:37, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

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