User talk:TrikeDrifters

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While new editors are always welcome, Wikipedia has rules about its being used to promote or advertise companies or products. Companies and products (like everything else) must meet notability guidelines. This usually requires verification by multiple reliable sources. Please consider these rules and guidelines before trying to create Wikipedia articles about your products. You should also have a read of WP:COI. Stalwart 111  11:55, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Electric Drift Trike for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Electric Drift Trike is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Electric Drift Trike until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.

As discussed above, Wikipedia really isn't the place to promote your products or services. I like them; they're cool and I might even buy one if I owned enough flat concrete. But to be included on Wikipedia, things need to be notable (see WP:N) which usually means they need to have received "significant coverage" in reliable sources. I've had a good look and I can't find any sources that would be considered reliable that give the product, or the activity, or the company, enough coverage to be considered notable. If you have some, feel free to share it at the articles for deletion page.

It's probably also worth having a read of WP:CONTESTED for an explanation of what might have been helpful when you removed the proposed deletion notice. Stalwart 111  05:09, 4 February 2013 (UTC)


 * The above are the notes I was referring to - hopefully you'll now get a note at the top of your page when you next log in. Cheers, Stalwart 111  08:05, 4 February 2013 (UTC).


 * No worries at all, mate. And you should know a nomination for deletion is nothing personal. WP:HELPAFD might help. The sources would need to be considered reliable, so generally newspapers, books and magazines, not blogs, forums or social media. Basically it needs to have been given "significant coverage" in mainstream media. Removing advertising-style things like company logos can help but a neutral style of writing is not enough. The problem with using the Drift Trikes article as an example is that it has no sources at all and may very well also be a deletion candidate itself. Stalwart 111  08:31, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I understand completely what you mean now, as how else would you stop spammers and people making multiple blogs of their own to try and gain references.

Considering Magazines and newspaper are slowly becoming a thing of the past for Blogs, forums and social media, it will be a hard task to get the unnecessary sources for Wikipedia to class Electric Drift Trikes as an article.

Which is a shame really because it is such an awesome product. TrikeDrifters (talk) 12:04, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Exactly right. And for the record, I agree - very cool. As a member of WP:WikiProject Skateboarding, I know how frustrating it can be when cool does not equal notable. You could always ask for the article to be userfied in your own space if you think it might become notable enough for inclusion in the future. Obviously, more coverage in those "traditional" forms would mean it would likely pass. A few newspaper articles, a magazine story, etc. Stalwart 111  12:45, 4 February 2013 (UTC)