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NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers. Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.
 * June backlog drive


 * New technology, new rules
 * New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
 * Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
 * Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.


 * Editathons
 * Editathons will continue through August. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.


 * Project news
 * The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
 * As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.


 * There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See New pages patrol/Coordination for more info to see if you can help out.


 * Other
 * A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.


 * Moving to Draft and Page Mover
 * Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
 * If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
 * Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
 * The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
 * The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.

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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
 * Backlog


 * Community Wishlist Proposal
 * There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
 * Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!


 * Project updates
 * ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
 * There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.


 * New scripts
 * User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js(info) — A new script created for quickly placing copyvio-revdel on a page.

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Review for English/French speaker
Hello Triptothecottage. I am contacting you because you are a speaker of both English and French. I have created the page Draft:Pierre_Jovanovic nearly 2 months ago, and I am waiting for a review. Could you please consider having a look at it ? Please excuse me if my request is improper. I am learning the ropes. Best regards. Micha Jo (talk) 08:30, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
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 * Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
 * Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.


 * If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.


 * We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.


 * With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

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I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm 1l2l3k. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Yellow vests movement, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
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This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
 * Reviewer of the Year
 * Thanks are also extended for their work to (15,059 reviews),  (12,760reviews),  (9,001reviews),  (8,440reviews),  (8,092reviews),   (5,306reviews),  (4,153 reviews),  (4,016reviews),  and  (3,615reviews)., , , and  have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only sevenmonths, while , with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top100 reviewers.

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
 * Less good news, and an appeal for some help

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.
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The Suburban Rail loop Cost estimate
The issue I have with the costings is the estimates around $100 billion are a reference towards for the RFI alternative proposal, which is not the SRL specifically.

The comments from the opposition are just unreliable, it's just to question how Labor can deliver the project. Remember how they came up with a 19 billion figure for their High Speed Rail project.

Daniel Bowen who is a well respected transport blogger / campaigner and spokesperson for PTUA. Gave a good idea of the estimate of the cost of the project.

"Here’s a back of the envelope costing: The Metro 1 tunnel now under construction is 9 kilometres of twin tunnels and 5 stations, costing about $10 billion. Let’s assume for a moment that each station costs $1 billion, and tunnels cost $0.5 billion per kilometre.

Metro 3 as initially envisaged is 90 kilometres and 12 stations (though I would strongly argue for at least a handful more stations). Based on that rule of thumb, we’d be looking at $45 + $12 = $57b. So about $50b or less might be close to the mark, assuming some economies of scale from the bigger project, and remember that some of the route won’t underground."



The $50 Billion figure is around the ball-park what the project may cost. The upper cost $100 billion is used to oppose the project not shown on paper how that figure is worked out. The government who proposed the idea, has worked on this in secrecy for 12 months before announcement, also they are working on a business case, which will probably show a more exact amount of the cost of the project. So their figure is more justified than the opposition, who doesn't have much to work on to show how they came up with their figure of $100 billion.

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 * I have copied this message to the talk page of Suburban Rail Loop as that is a more appropriate place for content-related discussions. I will respond in detail to your concerns there; suffice to say I agree more analysis is required, but do not believe the government’s claim has a better claim to legitimacy prima facie.


 * On a more personal note I’d like to welcome you to Wikipedia, as even though your first contributions were a little while ago, no one has yet taken the time to do so.


 * I would strongly encourage you to begin familiarising yourself with Wikipedia’s most important policies and their application. I would draw your attention in particular to the concept of verifiability, which is key to understanding how Wikipedia works. We do not engage in original research, and must strive to maintain a neutral point of view, using reliable sources to inform our judgement. I would also highlight the notability policy, which provides information on what is suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia.


 * I am familiar with your work on Railpage, and enjoy your contributions there, but I wish to reiterate that Wikipedia is a very different medium with very different rules.


 * I don’t mean to be bitey, so I look forward to working with you and will be happy to answer any further questions you might have.


 * As I said, I will respond to your SRL comments shortly. It will depend whether the rain clears and how long Australia bat for! Triptothecottage (talk) 23:38, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

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Proposed extensions
You've really done a fantastic job on this - nailing down the actual sourced proposals in that mess of OR must have been quite a job. Thanks! The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 01:32, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! There are so many rail-related articles like it, but it's nice to know someone sees the work involved in fixing them. Triptothecottage (talk) 01:38, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for 2003 Melbourne runaway train
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Shepparton VLocities
Hey,

Just FYI, VLocities will be introduced on the Shepparton line eventually, per.

Anothersignalman (talk) 01:36, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware, but there's been no timeframe provided for the completion of Stage 2 and the introduction of VLos to revenue service there. Highly unlikely this year, I'd say. It could get a mention in the VLo article sourced to an RS but I'm not sure I see a compelling reason to do so. Wikipedia need not be ahead of the game, it just needs to be verifiable. Triptothecottage (talk) 05:02, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Riverdance
hi - thank you for your message regarding Riverdance. No, we don't have a conflict of interest. When this article was first published in 2006 we were included as part of the article. Since then the attribution was removed. The video source clearly shows the presence of ANÚNA and the slightest effort to research the original performance of Riverdance would confirm our involvement. however, at some stage the attribution (not by us) was removed. Changing our username to conceal who we are seems rather disingenuous. But if thats what it takes to give the correct information then so be it. please advise and thank you for your speedy intervention. AnunaChoir (talk) 20:49, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that if you click through and read the conflict of interest policy you will see you fall directly into that category. We discourage COI editing on Wikipedia for obvious reasons: though I am sure you are acting in good faith in this instance, and you have provided evidence to back up your claims, that is not always the case.
 * I'd suggest that you change your username to something like, say, "Aoife at AnunaChoir" or "AnunaChoir Tom". That way you don't have to conceal your links to Anuna but are no longer in violation of the username policy. Hope that's of some assistance. Triptothecottage (talk) 20:59, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much - I have done that now and requested the change. Will the original entry be retained or will I have to do it all again? 79.97.209.190 (talk) 21:41, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.17


Hello ,


 * News
 * The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.


 * Discussions of interest
 * Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
 * db-blankdraft was merged into G13 (Discussion)
 * A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
 * There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.


 * Reminders
 * NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD  because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.


 * NPP Tools Report
 * Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
 * copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
 * The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

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