User talk:Trish Wilson

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Father's Rights
Hi Trish welcome to Wikipedia i hope you have fun here. I noticed your posts on the Father's Rights page. It's usually considered not to be a good idea for anyone to edit articles or sections about themselves (or refering to themselves) - other editors can be afraid of bias. That said I realize you corrected a factual statement so in my opinion your editing was okay. Also you made the right choice to state on the talk page that edited the page. You made no mistakes at all. I just wanted to have a word with you about that section.

Unfortunately I have to say that I don't think the two paragraphs in question should be included in the article on grounds of its notability. WP:N or Wikipedia's notability policy holds that a statements must be referenced by a notable reliable source - by this we mean a national news paper, academic journal, books (BTW I'm not accusing you of being unreliable in any way, quite the contrary)

Blogs are not considered encyclopedic enough for inclusion in articles other than autobiographies. Self-published sources (that covers many web-published sources) are only acceptable as primary sources and are not reliable on their own. To be notable a statement must be referenced from an objective, independent, peer-reviewed, secondary source (see policy on reliable sources). I'm going to raise this issue on the Men's Right's Talk page - I recently disputed statements by a Men's Rights activist ( David R Usher) for this same reason.

Sorry that this is such a long message - there are a lot of policies an issues for newbies to learn about. BTW if what you wrote was published in a major newspaper or mentioned in one you should reference that - then it would be fine. Once again welcome to Wikipedia and happy editing : )--Cailil 20:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind welcome, Cailil. I felt a little uncomfortable editing the section someone else had posted that included cites made by me. I didn't write the paragraphs in question. I usually don't cite myself when I write anyway. I understand that the source isn't what Wikipedia normally would consider a reliable source. The source I fixed is from a blog for North Dakota that published an article I had written. I had wondered myself if blogs would be accepted as notable source. Turns out I was right to wonder. I understand the "notability policy". It won't be hard for me to abide by it.

I do have one question. Does Wikipedia accept citations from academic journals, books, etc., that are not available online? I have access to many academic journals, law journals, and books that aren't available online, but I could cite the complete source the way I would normally cite a footnote. Does Wiki accept those kinds of sources, or do all of them have to be verifiable by a link? Trish Wilson 07:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi Trish, sources don't need to be available online. Citing the complete source, the old-fashioned footnote way is the best way.  The only thing extra Wikipedia includes in its references is the ISBN no. of the books - this is usually enough verification since anyone with access to library (or Amazon) will be able to get hold of the sources.  : ) --Cailil 14:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Yoji Kondo
I just added a bibliography for Dr. Yoji Kondo's Wiki page, but I can't figure out how to make the book titles in italics. Right now, they are in quotes. Can someone help me with this please? I'm new to Wikipedia.

Trish Wilson 15:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Hi Trish, I see you are in action. Good! Can you please use edit summaries when you save the page? Just add a little summary of what you have done and why in the box at the bottom of the page. It helps when looking at the page history. --Slp1 14:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Slp1, Okay, I didn't know to add edit summaries. I described what I did on the Talk Page. I'm making minor edits, like adding paragraph breaks. I also added to the "Critical of the Fathers Rights Movement" section at the bottom of the page.

I might tackle the footnotes next. That's going to be tedious, but it looks confusing with all the numbers out of sequence in the article. I've made footnotes on Wikipedia before, so I think I'll do okay. I'll remember to add a summary of the edits I'm making when I make them.

Trish Wilson 14:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

List Of Video Games With Female Protagonists
Added "The Longest Journey: Dreamfall" to the list.

Trish Wilson 02:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Shared Parenting
Created a "References" section and added a footnote.

Trish Wilson 02:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

List Of Historical Cats
I added three cats - Jiji, Piewacket, and Petronius the Arbiter.

Trish Wilson 22:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

The PAS and Fathers' Rights Pages
Oh, God, am I going to regret this. ;) Sip1, don't kill me!!!!

I edited the fathers' rights page and the PAS page. I haven't been to the FR page since spring and it's a collossal mess!!

I hope I don't get too roped into this. I just couldn't let it go. Stuff had to be said, and valid information needed to be added. I hope I don't have to spend much time and effort on these pages, but I will have need be. I have lots of other work to do. This is only a hobby, after all. ;)

Trish Wilson 04:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Ray Wise
God, I love him. I added info about his appearance in "Dead End". I watch him now in "Reaper", and I'm hooked!

Trish Wilson 04:40, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Shared Parenting
Updated Shared Parenting, too. Added a bunch of cites from researchers. I think that's sound.

Trish Wilson 05:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have removed them, I am afraid. I think a brief summary of the main points would be good, but it was just too much and not very encyclopedic if you know what I mean.Slp1 15:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


 * You're right - I'll come up with a more generalized summary, and provide a link to the original article. Trish Wilson 16:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

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In particular I note the comments [|here] that "For a decade feminist blogger Trish Wilson has specialized in tracking and attacking the fatherhood movement". Please also read up on Wikipedia policies such as NPOV and Advocacy. Thanks.--Shakehandsman (talk) 18:52, 21 October 2010 (UTC)