User talk:Trotboy

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Hi, glad to have you aboard, could you see my question at Talk:Andres Nin about your recent addition to that article? -- Jmabel | Talk 19:26, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Kronstadt/K. rebellion
Have you read: Kronstadt, 1917-1921: The fate of a Soviet democracy, Israel Getzler ISBN 0521894425, Cambridge University Press. I suggest you do before putting in unsubstantiated additions. Please read: Verifiability and No original research. --  max rspct  leave a message  13:13, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Lenin and Trotsky had a lot to defend, they are obviously not unbias and Pathfinder press are pretty much old trotskyist-marxists. You really cannot alter the article using these claiming a white conspiracy - this is has been known to be false for years. Read S.A Smith's books... and Israel Getzler's book is just about THE definitive book on the subject. --  max rspct  leave a message  14:08, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Whats wrong with using a double negative on talkpages. Most users utilise vernacular language when conversing. Lenin and Trotsky's version of events can be included but should be identified as such and not spread around the article in POV form. I think your prejudice against the peasantry (and labelling of the 16,000+ revolters and the mass support in Petrograd) is typical of the Leninist viewpoint. Oh and as for edit wars ... there is no need.. Put that viewpoint.. the Leninist viewpoint together and source it. But don't interweave the article with stuff based solely on fringe sources and Trotsky and Lenin themselves. Also please read Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point as I fear you desire an edit war too readily. --  max rspct  leave a message  23:05, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Kronstadt Rebellion
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This edit is basically vandalism, and your edit summary is actively misleading. I've seen you do some reasonably good work elsewhere, so I won't press the matter, but misleading edit summaries are generally considered a pretty serious offense around here. I suggest that you do not do this again in the future. - Jmabel | Talk 08:12, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

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Kronstadt Rebellion
You state that my editing of the page was 'vandalism' - I am willing to accept that, in the sense that it was a deliberate provocation. I was trying to draw attention to the fact that 'Max Rspct' constantly reverses any posts that do not fit with his Anarchist POV. Now obviously I have an axe to grind here, in that I am a Trotskyist, so I am pretty much bound to be opposed to his POV. But until this edit, I had not deleted his POV at all, only made minor edits where he has posted something that was unsubstantiated. However, whenever I. or anyone else, post anything giving a balance to the article, he deletes it. No discussion, no balance, just deleted. This is not right, and it is precisely why I deleted the page as I did.

In fact, my edit summary was not incorrect, the page that I left was no less unbalanced and POV than the one I deleted.

You need to 'have a word' with Max Rspct and keep an eye on his constant reversals of other people's additions to the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trotboy (talk • contribs) 31 Jan 2006


 * Are you familiar with WP:POINT? If not, you should read it.


 * It there are factual problems with the article (uncited claims of fact), I recommend putting fact after the relevant passages. If you think there are unattributed opinions, I recommend putting NPOV at the top of the article, listing them on the talk page, suggesting that someone has a week to turn them into cited, attributed statements of opinion from sources of some note, and that after that you will cut those passages to the talk page (not delete them without substantive summaries, or, worse yet, with misleading summaries). And if there are good Trotskyist commentaries on Kronstadt, especially by Trotsky himself&mdash;there may be, I'm unfamiliar with them, in my experience Trotskyists tend to avoid the topic, hardly Trotsky's finest hour&mdash;you can quote and cite those, and if that is removed you will have a solid case that you are in the right in terms of what belongs in Wikipedia.


 * I'd guess, though I do not know, that Deutscher might be citable to your purpose. Alternatively, it's not like Trotskyist groups are short on bookstores staffed by knowledgable people: even if you don't know exactly where to go to find such material yourself, it should not be hard to find someone who would. -- Jmabel | Talk 16:52, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

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 * Trotboy, I messaged you before for providing source/license to the image. If you have uploaded other untagged images then please tag them also with appropriate licenses, else, I am afraid that they shall be deleted. Don't assume it is destructive. Please follow policy as well as image policy, if you assume this is destructive. I think I am not doing anything wrong. I am providing source as well as a tag to this image as you mentioned on my talk page.

Linking to categories
I noticed you had a little difficultly link to a category page over at WikiProject Devon. Putting a colon at the start of the link fixes this problem: Category:Hill forts in Devon (note that the colon is not visible in the displayed link). --Safalra 17:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help Safalra! Trotboy 20:46, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:CIVIL
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Please stick to editing articles constructively, and not pettily sabotaging other people's contributions with your jobsworth nonsense, you sad git. BTW I am sticking to the editing issues - the editing issue is YOU!Trotboy 21:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism warning
You are fully aware that turkey, the bird, is written with a lower case 't'. Consequently, your edit here constitutes vandalism. If you continue to act in this way you will be blocked from editing. Bridgeplayer 16:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

And you should know - you are one! Can dish it out, but can't take it eh? Annoying when someone messes with your posts isn't it? Fuck off and leave my posts alone, unless you can offer something constructive, and I'll do the same. Trotboy 21:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Final warning
I have received several complaints about your actions, and in general find them to be fully justified. It is not, under any circumstances, acceptable to call other editors an "idiot" or "nincompoop", or to swear at them. Also, please notice that no article on this project (even if you create it) is "yours". Anyone else who wishes may edit such articles, and you are fully expected to work constructively, cooperatively, and civilly with them in doing so. Any further incivility or attempts to own an article will lead to a block from editing. Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:14, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Look at my posts, look at what I've contributed, look at the project that I am working on Category: Hill forts in Devon with other contributors. Then look at the complainant - singular - and his record for vandalising stubs just for the sake of it. I am not trying to 'own' any articles, any more than any contributor, but I take exception when someone goes out of their way to vandalise my contributions. It isn't me you should be warning. Trotboy 10:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Did indeed have a look, but what I see is just a series of merges into parent articles. This is often done when there is little to be written on a subject of local interest, but there's a "good fit" parent locality article for the information. You're certainly free to disagree with such actions, or even to reverse them (provided that you do not break the three-revert rule), but that is normal editing, not vandalism. And under no circumstances is it acceptable to be uncivil or make personal attacks, even when you really are dealing with a vandal. If the two of you cannot come to agreement, we do have dispute resolution processes-you may find the third opinion process useful if it's just the two of you who disagree. Please do keep in mind that articles or other edits you contribute are not yours, and may be edited freely by anyone else. Seraphimblade Talk to me 11:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Castle Hill, Torrington
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Devon hill forts
Hi Trotboy - good to see a few new articles on hill forts springing up... but could I ask a favour? It's help out if you could add a stub template to them if they're all going to be as short as Hembury Castle, Buckfast. Ideally, both Devon-struct-stub and Euro-archaeology-stub should be added to each, but even just stub will get them into the stub sorting system and make them more likely to be worked on. Cheers - and keep up the good article-creation work! :) Grutness...wha?  00:17, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

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Cranmore Castle
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 * Sad as ever I see, go and annoy someone else you sad little man. Trotboy (talk) 11:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Bridgeplayer (talk) 23:14, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

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