User talk:Truth777333

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There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. ShawntheGod (talk) 10:27, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014
Hello, I'm Jim1138. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Moors with this edit that didn't seem very civil, so I removed it. Wikipedia needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it’s one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Jim1138 (talk) 10:34, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. If you continue to call editors racists or white supremacists in the way you have done recently I will probably block you. Dougweller (talk) 15:25, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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Please don't edit closed discussions. Also please note that ANI is a venue for asking Administrators to take action, for instance to block an editor. It is not appropriate for content disputes. Dougweller (talk) 16:29, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Olmec head.jpg
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van Sertima
Your recent edit there did not represent what the source said. What the article says must faithfully represent the source, not soften it. Dougweller (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

(Truth777333 (talk) 22:20, 4 February 2014 (UTC)). I have seen plenty of edits that use the exact wording " softens the language" This current article is very biased and reflects badly on the works of Dr. Ivan Van Sertima. It is supposed to reflect a neutral view and yet everything of mention is negative. The area to which mended is already mentioned in the paragraph below. I would be happy deleting it altogther from the first paragraph.(Truth777333 (talk) 22:20, 4 February 2014 (UTC)).
 * The difference that the language in question was what the source used - you can't change that. Dougweller (talk) 15:08, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

(Truth777333 (talk) 15:41, 5 February 2014 (UTC))Calrence Weiant has a PHD in archeology. Who are you to suggest that he isnt a reliable source for teh Ivan van Sertima article. He worked with Mr. Sertima for many years. he is a very reputable source.(Truth777333 (talk) 15:41, 5 February 2014 (UTC))
 * Huh? He's mentioned in the article, I haven't removed him. Have you even read the whole article? He doesn't belong in the lead however. But he is not a reliable source for Olmec heads, he was a ceramic specialist but better known for his psychic archaeology, and most of his career he was a chiropractor. If you think he is, take it to WP:RSN. He probably doesn't belong in the article at all, maybe I should go to RSN. But he certainly should not be in the article twice. Dougweller (talk) 17:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The other point is that he is best known for his Olmec alternative origin speculations, and we have to make it clear in the lead that this is not accepted by mainstream specialists. That's policy. Dougweller (talk) 17:05, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't agree that this information has to be in the article twice. What is the next step for compromise. All other articles that I see where the person is known for a particular controversial theory is not necessarily listed in the lead and therefore don't seem to follow this premise. He is known for other things as well not just the Olmec alternative. You are obviously making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. If this information is already in the article, I am not in agreement to have it also in the lead. I would like this to go to other administrators as you seem very biased on this issue and have not been willing to compromise at all.(Truth777333 (talk) 08:30, 7 February 2014 (UTC)) By the way, that was the mainstream thought many years ago. Since then there has been documented evidence that Blacks were in fact the first people in America. http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-First-Inhabitants-of-the-Americans-Were-Black-64307.shtmlThe first migration wave is believed to have arrived approximately 14 thousand years ago and had been comprised of individuals resembling Luzia, with non-mongoloid morphology, similar to that of the current Australians and Africans. http://revistapesquisa.fapesp.br/en/2012/05/06/walter-neves-luzias-father/. Check it out for yourself. Therefore your insistence on labeling Ivan Van Sertima as not accepted by mainstream only indicates that the mainstream scholars of that time were incorrect. New evidence has proven these scholars which you cite in the article as wrong nevertheless. It is absolutely not necessary and I insist that this information is removed from the lead as it creates a distorted unbalanced picture of how his works were received. (Truth777333 (talk) 08:30, 7 February 2014 (UTC))


 * Softpedia is not a reliable source by our criteria, you need peer reviewed journals or academic books - the term "Black Asians" exists but is not used to refer to any group 12000 years ago. Most scientists think we all come originally from Africa. In any case, this is not what van Sertima is arguing. He is arguing that Africans visited the Americas far more recently than that, within historical times, he was not suggesting that Native Americans came from Africa. Neves is not arguing that Africans migrated to the Americas. No mainstream scholar suggests that. Dougweller (talk) 13:34, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

(Truth777333 (talk) 14:34, 7 February 2014 (UTC)) My point is that the mainstream scholars also said that there were no artifacts of proof that a non - native american race ever existed in america. This is teh aspect of teh critism which I intend to dispute. We now know that view is incorrect. We have skulls to proove it. In addition to drawings and artificats. I wont argue anymore about this like I said before, I will simply provide sources. Dr. Imonhoteps book "First americans were african" contains 7 peer reviews. As you stated, peer reviews are reliable sources correct? I will provide you with this.(Truth777333 (talk) 14:34, 7 February 2014 (UTC))

February 2014
Hello Truth777333, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your addition to Ivan van Sertima has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.


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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Dougweller (talk) 15:09, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Truth777333, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your addition to Yosef Ben-Jochannan has had to be removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.


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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Dougweller (talk) 06:50, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Please note that if you continue to insert material that violates our copyright policy you are likely to be blocked (although I won't do it, I'll just take you to WP:ANI. Dougweller (talk) 06:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)