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September 2022
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Are based on sources meeting WP:V and RS. Doug Weller talk 12:36, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022
Hello, I'm ButterCashier. I noticed that you recently removed content from Samarra without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. ButterCashier (talk) 09:07, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * In addition to the note above: please do not delete content that is supported by cited sources and then replace it with material that does not cite any sources, as you did at Assyrian people. All content on Wikipedia must be verifiable, and original research (content that you believe is correct but is not supported by reliable sources) is not permitted. If you believe there are problems with the existing content of an article but you're not sure how to improve it, you can also raise this issue at the article's talk page instead. R Prazeres (talk) 17:19, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to List of Indigenous peoples, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:07, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at List of indigenous peoples, you may be blocked from editing. Donald Albury 16:43, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

I accidentally submitted the changes without explaination. I made another edit and explained both it and my previous edits in that one. I know it’s messy but i do not know how to edit a submitted edit summary. Please revert my deleted edits if you know how :) TruthInMesopotamia (talk) 01:26, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Doug Weller. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions&#32;to Islam in Spain have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 07:41, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary, as you did at Religion in South Korea. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 12:14, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi? I’m confused as to why I’m getting this message? I’ve literally put through through paragraphs of explainations about the changes that need to be made, particularly in the edit section. Please revert this asap and let me know why you have removed all my contributions. I provided more than adequate explainations not only in my edit summaries but specifically in the talk page. Please fix this asap. TruthInMesopotamia (talk) 12:22, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * THis is nonsense. You're deleting sourced text, writing " though a larger majority of the population identifies as irreligious." - what in the world is a "larger majority"? Do you know what "majority" even means? I don't have the energy to look at the rest of your edits.@Donald Albury@ScottishFinnishRadish@R Prazeres@Pizzaplayer219 ANI or block?  Doug Weller  talk 13:49, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Not sure but I am leaning towards an ANI due to the fact that they are a new editor and to perhaps get them a second chance. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:08, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * No strong conviction on my part, but ANI is probably reasonable as it seems like they've started with bad habits that could change if they take feedback seriously. If they continue this behaviour in the short term, though, a block would be helpful. R Prazeres (talk) 15:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah that’s what I meant. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 15:34, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah agreed. Also, presumably obvious anyways but I forgot to mention we should continue to keep an eye on their image uploads too (see below). R Prazeres (talk) 15:37, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I do not see evidence in the user's edits that they understand how to edit on Wikipedia. If a trip to ANI helps the user to learn how to edit properly, great. If they do not mend their ways, however, they will end up blocked. - Donald Albury 15:47, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Doug Weller, probably needs ANI as the edits aren't clear vandalism and they're engaging in discussion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:06, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @ScottishFinnishRadish agreed, but I still don’t have the energy. Doug Weller  talk 16:08, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mount Ridley College
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Great Anish (Al-anīsh al-Kabīr) moved to draftspace
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Little Anish (Al-anīsh al-Ṣaghīr) moved to draftspace
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Please do not mark edits as minor unless they really are minor
I noticed that most of your recent edits on Religion in South Korea were marked as minor when they involved major changes in the article such as removal of a pie chart (admittedly I think there is an overuse of pie charts but removing/adding one is not a minor change). Marking as minor such changes looks suspiciously like trying to hide the changes which, as a new editor, you might not be aware of. Best practice would be to restrict minor to changes that do not change content (e.g., minor changes are fixing broken links, correcting typos or grammatical errors, or similar). I've also started a discussion on the article talk page about the changes which in the meantime I have rolled back. Erp (talk) 13:12, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry about that, as a new editor that’s my mistake for not knowing what would be considered minor. The reason why I feel that you should roll back on your roll back and restore the changes I made is because the 2015 census is, while admittedly yes, used by government websites and such, not really a census. It was an online survey that was only a sample of the population, and the huge drop and then rise in religious belief (mostly Christianity and Buddhism) in 2005–>2015–>2020 is because the 2015 census was only really surveyed South Koreans who actively used the internet and chose to participate- and wasn’t a proper full-population government census like the 2005 one or the ones in the rest of the world (it wasn’t really a census as defined by surveying the full population). Its data very strangely implies that there was a massive random dip and then surge in religious belief in the ten years since 2005 and the 5 years to the implied religious revival in 2020. The census has been a point of small controversy in South Korea, with Christians particularly speaking out against it and then not being represented. I admittedly also did not want simply delete the 2015 census and data, so thought it best to be moved it into a new subcategory. If you could please restore all the changes that I put through over these last few days as soon as you have a change (and possibly offer a solution as to where the 2015 census information should go if you know) that would be really great :) thank you! TruthInMesopotamia (talk) 13:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Also, the piechart a are all glitched out but they should fix themselves in the edit restoration. Im not too sure why they weren’t autogenerating correctly but they managed to fix themselves after I changed the colours to better visualise the charts. TruthInMesopotamia (talk) 13:37, 18 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I suspect the glitching is a caching problem with your browser. Time (or a reload) will fix it.  Note you should take the discussion on content up on the talk page for Religion in South Korea. Erp (talk) 23:45, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

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You cannot upload files you find on the internet
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 * @C.Fred I think we have a CIR issue here, not just with uploads but mainly with English, making changes that don't make sense. I don't think we can let this continue.  Doug Weller  talk 08:27, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Based on the reply below, it looks like they're getting some of the messages communicated to them. We may need to work on other things, but if they're receptive to feedback, that's a good sign. —C.Fred (talk) 11:44, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @C.Fred yes, we’ll see how they get on. But their edits need to make sense and conform to the sources.  Doug Weller  talk 14:58, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

I mistakenly added a lot of photos before knowing that I wasn’t supposed to. I haven’t added any photos since knowing that and they’re all set to delete in like three days. TruthInMesopotamia (talk) 09:25, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Mount Ridley College


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Neutrality
Hi there, TIM. Wikipedia is based on a neutral point of view. Your Username suggests that you may not be so committed to maintaining Wikipedia's neutrality when it comes to topics such as Assyrians, Chaldeans, Mesopotamia, heredity and ethnicity of such areas. You have also garnered numerous warnings already on your talk page in a short period of time here on Wikipedia.

I must duly warn you that the Assyria/Chaldean topic areas of Wikipedia are infested by nationalist intent and very few people are able to hold themselves to neutrality when editing articles. I hope that you can rise above this and rely on the reliable secondary sources especially scholarly articles and publications, when it comes to such topic areas. It is, of course, also helpful to have a collaborative attitude and respect for other editors' contributions.

TIM, can I count on you for those commitments? Elizium23 (talk) 06:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

My name was simply random and the name Holy Qurbana is the name of the Eucharist not the mass, which is what the women are doing. The women are Chaldean Catholics, who are by, all scholarly accounts, ethnically Assyrians. As it is the Assyrian page, I specified that they are Chaldean Catholic Assyrians. I’m not some nationalist, that’s just what they are. The Holy Qurbana thing is true, it would be like saying that Roman Catholics are “attending the Eucharist”. It’s a Catholic mass. TruthInMesopotamia (talk) 13:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Never mind, I see now what you meant by the Holy Qurbana that’s fine TruthInMesopotamia (talk) 13:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

November 2022
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