User talk:Truth seeker1901

Welcome to Wikipedia (WP). I am a relatively new user myself, and hope you enjoy your stay. You will find that WP editors throw around a lot of terminology like WP:RS, WP:OR, WP:NPOV, etc. Just search for these terms to find their definitions. These are well worth reading - and luckily they are all reasonable ways to get good WP articles.

I removed your edit to "AIPAC" for the following reasons, which I explained on the AIPAC Talk page (appearing under the 'discussion' tab): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee#Armenian_Genocide

Feel free to re-add it after making the changes I outlined to you:


 * A new editor (TruthSeeker1901) inserted a new section and three paragraphs on the Armenian Genocide. I have removed these, and left a note on this editor's talk page, for the following reasons:
 * 1. All the text added is uncited. It therefore reads as if it is all Original Research. See WP:RS and WP:OR. In order to add this section, it must have citations from Reliable Sources: e.g. newspaper or periodical articles, etc. For example, your first sentence is that AIPAC has lobbied the U.S. Congress against commemorating the Armenian Genocide - but your statement of this is not sufficient; you need to find a Reliable Source who makes this claim or at least show some evidence from a RS that this lobbying has taken place.
 * 2. Text is not written to be NPOV - see WP:NPOV. For example the heading "GENOCIDE DENIAL & SUPPORT FOR REVISIONISM" is taking the point of view that AIPAC is Denying the genocide and supporting revisionism - which I doubt they would agree to. Or the sentence "The Armenian community has attempted outreach to no avail" is argumentative - who is "the Armenian community", who have they reached out to, who has not responded?
 * 3. This "controversy" must be Notable (WP:Notable) in order for it to be included. Finding a number of WP:RS who discuss this issue (needed for the first point) goes a long way towards showing notability. I also checked the WP page WP:Armenian Genocide page, and did not find any mention of this controversy there. If this is significant, wouldn't it be on that page?
 * 4. WP format for header was not followed.
 * 5. Finally, it is strongly advisable to leave a note on this Talk page when adding substantial amounts of text, so you can explain your reasons for adding, notability, etc. Please leave a note here before adding these paragraphs after reworking them.
 * 6. The text I removed is the following. If you think this meets Notability standards, and want to insert this text, then you should feel free to rework it, especially by finding citations and rewriting it to be NPOV:


 * GENOCIDE DENIAL & SUPPORT FOR REVISIONISM


 * AIPAC, along with other major American Jewish lobbies such as ADL and B'nai B'rith have lobbied the U.S. Congress against commemorative resolutions affirming the World War I Armenian Genocide. The Armenian Genocide (1915-1923) resulted in the deaths of 1.5 million Armenians and the forced deportations of the rest.  Along with Armenians, other Christian minorities in the Ottoman Turkish Empire perished (including Assyrians, Arabs and Greeks).


 * The Turkish government has denied the facts behind the genocide; the death toll; and that the genocide was centrally planned. Israel and the major Jewish lobbies such as AIPAC have supported Turkey in this denial.


 * AIPAC has used its considerable clout in helping to defeat the Armenian Genocide resolutions (either in committee or from keeping it from getting to a floor vote). The rationale used by AIPAC is that Turkey has a long standing history of having accepted Sephardic Jewish refugees from Spain and that Israel-Turkey relations are more important than recognizing the first genocide of the 20th century.  Israel also seeks better treatment of its Jewish minority in Istanbul and Turkey's assistance in allowing more Turkish Jews to be allowed to emigrate to Israel and the occupied West Bank.


 * The Armenian community has attempted outreach to no avail, as it appears that the "realpolitik" considerations (Israel-Turkey relations) trump the obvious irony and hypocrisy of Jewish organizations lobbying against recognizing someone else's tragedy. Many in the Armenian diasporan communities also believe that a motivation is for Israel and the Jewish diaspora to maintain the perceived uniqueness of the Jewish Holocaust experience as opposed to other genocides (before or after).


 * Thank you, Jgui 15:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)