User talk:Truthseekers666

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ALR (talk) 14:16, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

My information is gathered as original research, by myself as a UFO researcher. You are editing posts based on personal feelings and not based on the fact that they contain information useful to wiki users who will browse the Wiki pages for facts. I have reported your continued absues of alteration of pages for personal reasons.


 * I would recommend that you read the material at the links I have provided about wikipedia policies with respect to documenting your own research, the verifiability and reliability of the sources that you use and indeed the manual of style about putting together an article, your point about P&SS moving to Henlow is mentioned elsewhere in the article and doesn't need repeated.
 * ALR (talk) 14:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me but the same logic should also apply to you. When users post information which is helpful such as further reading references on a subject and you just delete them you are breaking rules of Wiki. Your posts areas of interest are police, military intelligence and freemasonry. Probably all areas you are involved in I take it? Why apply your biases over what you feel is unsuitable information for others to read and apply it to Wiki which is supposed to be a freely editable open project, and you see fit to remove information and restrict the increase of information on Wiki by doing so. I suspect you have some hidden agenda to want to be doing this, as is the often the case with cover style information given out by officials on the highly sensitive Rudloe Manor facility. You state that I should cite my references, well what about you too. How do we know what you have vetted to be suitable for Wiki is infact fair and factual information. I can prove my sources as I have photocopied documentary evidence from the public records office. Unless you are acting in an official capacity for Rudloe Manor I suggest you be a little more respectful of the principles of Wiki for the good of its users.


 * Might I also suggest that you review the guidance on playing the player not the ball and  presumption of intent.
 * ALR (talk) 22:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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More problems with user ALR
User ALR is really annoying again and keeps removing factual information and dubbing it "conspiracy theory" when is evidenced by materials available in the public records office. User ALR has a problem with UFO researchers and is dubbing us "nutters and idiots". With this attitude it is no wonder that any time anyone tells the true story about P&SS involvement in UFO report investigation then ALR removes this information and is treating this WIKI page as the truth according to him and only him. References to books removed by ALR. Why? Links to useful pages, removed also by ALR. Why. What is ALRs problem. Can someone please investiagate and sanction this user. Truthseekers666 (talk) 21:03, 20 February 2010 (UTC)Truthseekers666 Matthew Williams 2-2010 --Truthseekers666 (talk) 21:16, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

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WP:CIVIL
Just a warning that some of your comments on other editors on your discussions at Possibly unfree files/2010 February 20 and Talk:RAF Rudloe Manor are not appropriate under WP:CIVIL please comment on the subject at hand not the motives and attributes of other editors. Thank you. MilborneOne (talk) 14:45, 23 February 2010 (UTC) When the other editors appear to have a military minded agenda to remove UFO information and supporting related documents i dont think it is bad for me to point this out and request these users identify themselves or their military roles so that we can assertain their true agenda which does not appear to have the interests of Wiki at heart but personal agendas. My points stand. YOurself and ALR are trying to delete information on UFOs not because you either dont like UFOs or have a vested interest in keeping this information off RAF pages, where it has been factually established it rightfully belongs. So by continuing to argue and delete wiki information it has understandably degenerated into questions being asked of your motives.Truthseekers666 (talk) 15:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have just pointed out that Milbourneone is guilty it would seem to WP:CIVIL against me too... for the following

1. Direct rudeness


 * (a) Rudeness, insults, name-calling, gross profanity or indecent suggestions;
 * (b) personal attacks, including racial, ethnic, sexual and religious slurs, and derogatory references to groups such as social classes or nationalities;
 * (c) ill-considered accusations of impropriety;
 * (d) belittling a fellow editor, including the use of judgmental edit summaries or talk-page posts (e.g. "snipped rambling crap", "that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen");

I refer to refs of you stating letter written by myself was of such poor quality as to be hardly readable. So when considering pointing out WP:CIVIL to others please look at your own writings and realise that you are not exempt from the same criticism. With respect. Truthseekers666 (talk) 15:10, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Your edits to RAF Rudloe Manor
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Keith D (talk) 14:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Hardly surprising this would happen since I have to revert backl the vandalism in the form of ALR wholesale removal of an important section. Truthseekers666 (talk) 14:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

February 2010
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for your disruption caused by edit warring and violation of the three-revert rule. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

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Explanation

 * "I for one do not find it clear at all that my photos website is "clearly unreliable". I think User:Steven J. Anderson had better explain properly why he feels this and not be so vague. However I know what will be said next, discussion of these issues is not allowed, so if you wish to explain this please do so on my private Talk page so as to not upset the admins of this page."

Ok, here is the low down on why that doesn't work. You user name and your website share the same name, and from this standpoint your efforts to place a link to your website are currently being looked upon as spamming. In fact, I raised this point over that the ANI thread after reviewing the article and determining this interesting little fact, and the consensus there was that the next time such an attempt was made by you to add you website to the article page your account would be permanently blocked. As a practical, you are a very lucky man: had this occurred only recently your account would have been block asap; but since a years worth of edits does give you some tenure we are cutting you a very limited amount of slack on that point. Testing our patients by pushing to readd your website regardless of its capacity is likely going to get your current account banned.

As for the photos themselves: my guess (and this is only a guess, so invest in it cautiously) is that the photos are being called into question either because they do not add anything to the article (ie: base shots when one or two convey the point, a lack of low flying objects when the low flying objects are being pushed for inclusion in the article, etc), or they are being called on on copyright grounds (meaning we do not know who took the photos or where they came from or have a link back to the related site to check on them or anything along those lines).

To be brutally honest, I do not like the fact that you are still editing the RAF article, I would much prefer if you would harass some other project's article(s) or at the very least find mainstream sources to back up your claims here. I also do not like the fact that you seem to have attitude issues when it comes to working with other editors. I for one do not make it point to go after other people with both barrels loaded when asking politely for an explanation from the editors would be so much easier on everyone and take much of the grief out of this process. I feel that much of this current situation could have been avoided if you had been more open to learning about the policies and guidelines on the site rather than adopting something closer to an "I'm right and your wrong, and now I call my forces to combat on the field to prove it" approach. Despite all this though, I am still willing to assume good faith here and give you a second chance, but you have got to start following the rules. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Indef Block
You have been indefinitely blocked from editing for attempting to harass other users. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Blueboy96 23:16, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * No, the current block isn't about the 3RR that you were blocked for on the 25th. It's for cross-wiki harassment of another user, including outing attempts and a few edits that have needed to be hidden. —Jeremy (v^_^v Dittobori) 07:14, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

NO ONE HAS INVESTIGATED USER:ALR YET
No ones has bothered at all to investigate the actions or user ALR in removing references to books which I put on the RAF Rudloe Manor site. Total effort has been made to block me. Wiki is covering something up here. Now also users who have commented on the RAF Rudloe Manor page have emailed me and told me their comments have been removed. Complete censorship on Wiki of their crimes in covering up a scandal of encyclopedic censorship by military personnel who have a direct connection to the place they are editing a page on. Seeing as the links I was posting were removed because I am the author of the website and one is not allowed to promote ones own site, why then is it allowed for user ALR to hone the RAF Rudloe Manor webage, which is somewhere he claims he worked/may still work, so how are his actions are NOT also seen as a CONFLICT. I can be banned because it is argued that I have been harrasing people by asking "who do you work for", which in the case of a cover up of information is a perfectly valid question to ask, and was indeed answered by the person in question of their own free choice. I am told I am OUTING them. They didnt have to answer, they OUTED THEMSELVES by answering. However this is MY CRIME(?) because I asked the question. One is not allowed to ask such a question. One of the million or so rules you can fall foul of when Wiki decides it doesnt like you. The punishment, instant ban for life. ALR punishment. Sweet FA. His input to the page is PRIMARY as he works there, it is his own personal first hand experience which he is basing his page edits on not SECONDARY accepted information... so how can he get away with this and I cannot even post lists of books for further reading?
 * Here's why their comments were removed: This is not a forum for general discussion of UFOs, black projects, conspiracy theories, or anything not directly related to the improvement of the RAF Rudloe Manor page on Wikipedia. Any such messages will be deleted or refactored. (emphasis in original) Disclosure: I am not affiliated with any military organization, nor am I a government official. I am not affiliated with any Masonic lodge nor am I affiliated with Freemasonry. I, like Breeblebrox, am an administrator who feels you are abusing Wikipedia to push your conspiracy theories. Like the other crackpot who does the same, you are not welcome here at all so long as you persist wearing a tinfoil hat. —Jeremy (v^_^v Dittobori) 01:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw both YouTube vidoes and the AN/I discussion. The block was unjustified if this user is being blocked for his "outing". The users involved outed themselves by answering and in addition, if they put information about themselves on their userpage, then they themselves have made the information public. How can you accuse Truthseekers666 of "outing" people with the other party self-providing the information? Also, this user has explained numerous times that, sure, he has tried to use at least some information from his own webspace to add content on Wikipedia. However, what even begins to be wrong about some of the pictures, that they had to be removed immediatley? Is it different than someone uploading a picture of a certain type of flower from their own garden for Wikipedia? Or would the picture of the flower have to be uploaded by someone else and on the condition that the garden owner or their garden has been mentioned in a front-page article by the New York Times or has been talked about in a published magazine article in a notable magazine? Oh wait...see why this guy was blocked on Wikimedia Commons. Uploading two potentially relevant pictures for an article (in good faith) warrants and indefinte block for vandalism. Seriously, even if this user has any faults, the uncalled for indefinite banning, harrassment and personal attacks that this user has suffered, particularly by many admins with those infamous blocking buttons, is nothing short of interent bullying and that is wrong, no matter where you are coming from. I would endorse any upcoming unblock of this user who has been sorely mistreated by the very people who should know better...THE ADMINS!--122.57.95.69 (talk) 02:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You think we're smart enough to be connected to a global conspiracy, but too stupid to recognize your writing style if you log out? That makes me feel sad.  I'm not stupid.  I'm also not part of a conspiracy, but I understand that the nature of your illness will make it hard for you to absorb that.  -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


 * "If enough people act independently towards the same goal, the end result is indistinguishable from a conspiracy." (Extreme Unction's First Law). Where you're seeing a conspiracy and injustice, a large number of Wikipedia editors and admins are seeing a user who is demonstrating that they still don't understand why their edits were inappropriate or why they were ultimately blocked. The corollaries to the Extreme Unction's First Law on the above semi-satirical page are also relevant:
 * Corollary: In any sufficiently large social endeavor, there will always be some subset of people who fail to understand this, and who will see conspiracies and cabals around every corner whenever their views fall into the minority.
 * Corollary: As the number of people who independently conclude that someone is a disruptive jerk increases, the likelihood of that person actually being a positive, constructive contributor who's merely run afoul of the "ruling elite" decreases. Not that there was ever a big chance of that to begin with.
 * Corollary: The people who most need to understand this law and its corollaries never will.
 * No-one is going to investigate ALR because thay've done nothing to be investigated for. EyeSerene talk 12:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I have investigated. Your claims are nonsensical. End of. Guy (Help!) 20:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)