User talk:Tryde/Archive 6

Peerage articles
I am, unfortunately, not an admin. I would suggest reverting all the edits, then seeing if anyone can compare the account and the IPs; might be a quick way of getting them blocked as socks of each other (although technical evidence won't be able to link them to Max) if you have access to a willing CU. Ironholds (talk) 19:48, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, when I saw your edits I guessed that the troublemaker(s) had got an account at last, because like them you prefer to capitalize heir apparent and heir presumptive for no Apparent reason. (Perhaps you'll tell me the presumptive reason, yuk yuk.) —Tamfang (talk) 03:18, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ??? Tryde (talk) 11:20, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Tamfang, what do you mean, exactly? Tryde: I'll get on to the ANI thread this evening when I've finished my political work for the day; probably around 6pm GMT, if that's alright. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 13:16, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ANI post up! Ironholds (talk) 18:23, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Tryde (talk) 18:25, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I wish I had a penny for every time I've said: "I know I have a knack for making myself misunderstood, but this time I thought I was clear." What's unclear here – how it is that I fail to see why h.a. and h.p. ought to be capitalized, or why I bothered making the above remark, or something else?
 * In many articles on peerages, after the lists of holders the names are given of the two or three persons currently next in line. The anonymous user(s) changed these in a particular style.  I changed them for what I consider better English and better flow.  Tryde then undid some of my changes and (i think) changed some others in a way consistent with the anonymous user(s)'s style.  I drew an obvious but mistaken inference. —Tamfang (talk) 19:20, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I registered this account in February 2006... Tryde (talk) 10:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * See Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive591; I suggest opening an SPI if you have the time. Ironholds (talk) 13:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Hansard 1803-2005
Hi Tryde

First of all, I'm sorry for not getting back to you about the message you left on my talkpage at User talk:BrownHairedGirl. OI started trying to get my head around it, got distracted .... and forgot to come back to it. I hope it's under control now, but sorry for not even replying.

Anyway, the reason for this message is that I thought I should draw you attention to this edit of mine to John Manners-Sutton, 3rd Viscount Canterbury. I removed the sentence "He contributed occasionally in the House of Lords, speaking six times between 1873 and 1876", which you had added in this edit on 5 November 2009, and referenced to http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/people/mr-john-manners-sutton/1876 hansard.millbanksystems.com

A noted on that site's front page at http://hansard.millbanksystems.com, "The site is still undergoing development and experimentation, ... Work to improve the quality of the data is also ongoing." I have used that site a lot, and notice that it still has many indexing errors -- people listed under more than one name, people not included in constituency lists etc. For that reason, I don't think that the statistics produced by the site are reliable, although I see no reason to doubt that it has reproduced the text accurately, so I support its use as a reference for the content of speeches.

I do think that it's a very valuable site (and long overdue), so as you may have noticed I have been adding external links to it from articles on MPs, using the template hansard-contribs -- I'm trying to do them all, though with about 7,000 articles on Uk MPs, that will take some time! But I don't think that it is yet sufficiently robust for its indexes to be regarded as a reliable source.

Hope this makes sense. I'd welcome your thoughts on it. I'm watchinmg this page, so you can reply here (if you want to reply at all!)-- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You are probably correct. Anyway, I'm not going to be so active on Wikipedia in the future, as you can see on my user page I'm semi-retired since the New Year. Unfortunately my quiet semi-retirement has now been interrupted by the mass-edits made to peerage articles by a number of anonymous IP-addresses... Tryde (talk) 10:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

British governments
I was recently looking over List of British governments and trying to sort out what to do with the Conservatives from 1979 to 1997. I originally created Conservative Government 1979-1997 for that, which is probably too big. However, I'm inclined to think your articles covering the same period are divided a bit too fine; that is, you seem to have created a new article after every general election (and Thatcher's resignation), but if you look at other precedents in the list, prime ministers who survived several general elections have all of their governments combined into one article. Would you be OK with a merger of the articles into Conservative Government 1979-1990 and Conservative Government 1990-1997? Choess (talk) 03:03, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That would be fine with me. Tryde (talk) 09:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Surprise!
All blocked :). Nice big rangeblock for the IPs (should slow him down) and a block for the account. I'll get a CU on identifying any quiet sleeper accounts when I next see one. Ironholds (talk) 09:55, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Checkuser; it compares the IP of an account with IPs used by other accounts to draw out sockpuppets. I've had a rangeblock put on the IPs, so it blocks every IP ending in (certain prefix), which is helpful to prevent him simply resetting his router and carrying on. Let me know if you see any further activity. Ironholds (talk) 09:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Tryde! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 2 of the articles that you created  are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 05:33, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) David Trefgarne, 2nd Baron Trefgarne -
 * 2) Francis Hovell-Thurlow-Cumming-Bruce, 8th Baron Thurlow -

Secret Talks
Have you been making changes to some edits related to the secret political talks that happened at Hatfield House? Please explain your objections. Thanks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.253.48.80 (talk) 09:57, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This material should be included in the article on the 7th Marquess (where I have now moved it), not in the article on the peerage. Tryde (talk) 15:00, 27 January 2010 (UTC)