User talk:Ts6Au

Semi protected edit request to Barack Obama speech to joint session of Congress, September 2009
brace brace t l x (beam) e d i t s e m i p r o t e c t e d brace brace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_speech_to_joint_session_of_Congress,_September_2009 from

"United States President Barack Obama discussed his plan for health care reform in a speech delivered..."

to

"United States President Barack Obama discussed his plan for health care insurance reform in a speech delivered..."

without change to the link destination [unless the destination itself [Health Care Reform|Health_care_reform_in_the_United_States] is updated, which also would be appropriate]. The reasons:

The media and most of the political spectrum have collectively and generally referred to the current legislative ideas as health care reform. [At least they agree on something, right?] However, Wikipedia should be above this fray, and "call a duck a duck". It is not "health care" itself that is being either favorably expanded (as might be said by a supporter) or being denied (as might be said by a detractor).

" Health care " itself has never been a subject of this political debate, nor has it been the primary focus of legislative proposals resulting from this political debate, from either 'side' of the 'political aisle'. What is being discussed is how the health care services will be paid for...whether by private individuals, employers, insurers, or by a government-run or -sponsored corporation, and how those sources would or might be funded -- this is the debate. Accordingly, it would be appropriate, accurate, and neutral to avoid the common-but-inappropriate descriptions of this debate in favor of words that better define the nature and subject matter of the so-called "health care debate" -- namely, how it's paid for and who does the paying for it. Adding this one word - insurance (or similar words like 'insurance and payment') - will do just that. After all, that's really what this public discussion concerns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ts6Au (talk • contribs) 04:23, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

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 * Wikipedia should follow the usage in the sources - if they say Health Care Reform, then so do we. It is not up to us to decide it should be called something else - that would be considered Original Research. ∙  AJCham  talk  13:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Also, for future reference, note that the template should be used on the talk page of the article you want changed, not your own talk page, and that comments should be signed by using four tildes ( ~ ) ∙  AJCham  talk  14:39, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

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