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 * thanks! and pray for Ukraine User talk:Dunutubble

Nomination of Russian fascism (ideology) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Russian fascism (ideology) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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March 2022
Hello, I'm Veverve. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Russian fascism (ideology), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''Stop adding blogs, FICTREFs, and non-RS, as well as any claim which relies on those; also stop adding unsourced material. Thanks.'' Veverve (talk) 19:46, 11 March 2022 (UTC)


 * @Veverve you didn't notice I add a lot of sources for each sentence. reliable sources, not blogs as you can think. I reverted your vandalism again. Tsans2 (talk) 22:15, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You added back the blogs and all I had reproached in details in my multiple separate edits, and you then added more FICTREF or sources unrelated to the topic. I have reverted your undoing. Sources used on Wikipedia must be WP:RS. Veverve (talk) 22:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I double checked and added some basic info with iron reliable sources Tsans2 (talk) 22:48, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Russian fascism (ideology), you may be blocked from editing. Veverve (talk) 09:56, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
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Kyiv vs Kiev in historical articles
Please see this Request for Comment for the discussion where this consensus was achieved: Talk:Kyiv/Archive 9. Until the consensus changes, the articles such as Kievan Rus continue to use the "Kiev" spelling. Please let me know if you have any questions. --K.e.coffman (talk) 20:06, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


 * so, in historical articles I cannot use Kyiv? Tsans2 (talk) 20:52, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The new name can be briefly mentioned such as:  Oleg of Novgorod arrived at Kiev (today Kyiv, Ukraine)... , but then continue with the "Kiev" name. Separately, subjects like Kievan Rus', Olga of Kiev, etc. have their own established common English names in the preponderance of sources, and should not be changed.
 * In general, historical names are in continued use in Wikipedia and do not need to be changed, because of redirects. See for example: Lwów / Lemberg / Lvov which all point to Lviv. Hope this is helpful. --K.e.coffman (talk) 21:08, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @K.e.coffman thanks. not a problem. Tsans2 (talk) 22:50, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

ANI discussion
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Veverve (talk) 10:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

March 2022
 You have been blocked from editing from certain pages (Russian fascism (ideology)) for a period of 1 week for eidtwaRRING. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 17:01, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Please see our policy on edit warring. In the event of a content dispute, editors are required to stop reverting, discuss, and seek consensus among editors on the relevant talk page. If discussions reach an impasse, editors can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution.

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 * Edit warring is wrong even if one is right.
 * Any arguments in favor of one's preferred version should be made on the relevant talk page and not in an unblock appeal.
 * Calling attention to the faults of others is never a successful strategy; one must address one's own behavior. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 17:38, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I'm RenatUK. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person   on Marina Ovsyannikova, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! Renat 11:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Battle of Lebedyn moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Battle of Lebedyn, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Curbon7 (talk) 02:06, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

ANI discussion (2)
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Veverve (talk) 04:47, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert
El_C 20:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Notice: You Have Been Topic Banned
This message is to advise you that you have been topic banned, and are therefore prohibited from editing or commenting on all articles, pages and discussion related to Eastern Europe and the Balkans broadly construed. This includes, but is not limited to, culture, religion, geography, history, politics and current events. This topic ban shall remain in force for a period of one year from this date unless lifted by myself or another competent entity. This measure is taken in response to the concerns raised by numerous experienced editors at this ANI discussion and is in lieu of an indefinite block. You may remove this notice at any time from your talk page. However, this will have no effect on the ban. Any violation of the ban may result in additional sanctions, not excluding an indefinite block, which may be imposed by any uninvolved administrator without further warning. Please be aware that I am taking this measure reluctantly and in the hopes that you may take the necessary time to improve your editing skills, manage any prejudices or WP:POV issues you may have, and become a productive editor. Once the ban expires (April 2, 2023) you are free to resume editing. However, be advised that given your history of problematic editing in this subject area, that there is unlikely to be much tolerance for a resumption of your bad habits. This admin action is being logged at WP:ACDSLOG. If you have any questions please drop me a line on my talk or ping me to this page. Yours V/r -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:49, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * See WP:UNBAN for your appeal options. Again, I recommend it be filed no less than 3 months (of productive editing elsewhere) from now for best chance of success. Regards, El_C 15:32, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ad Orientem how to appeal this ban? I didn't find any reason for my ban. In general, which exactly my edits are so bad, that I was banned? Tsans2 (talk) 16:34, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ad Orientem second. I have no deleted edits, and have 4 public thanks on my credit. it's strange. looks like a punishment for my following of this rule: Be bold Tsans2 (talk) 16:36, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Out of an abundance of caution I have requested a review of your T Ban at WP:AN. I have also pinged you to that conversation. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:11, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ad Orientem I'm grateful. Hope justice will prevail Tsans2 (talk) 17:16, 2 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Your comment here is a violation of your topic ban. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you did not read the ban notice carefully. You may not edit any page or participate in any discussion relating to the covered subject matter broadly construed. Put in the plainest language, this subject is entirely off limits to you anywhere on Wikipedia for the duration of the topic ban. This should be understood as a formal warning. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:33, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ad Orientem I cannot comment other users' talk pages? Tsans2 (talk) 17:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That is correct. You are free to edit or discuss any subject not covered by the topic ban. But Eastern Europe and the Balkans are off limits. If you feel that you have sufficiently improved your editing skills and grasp of WP:PAG, you may drop me a line in six months and I will review the topic ban. No promises on the outcome, but we can discuss it. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:37, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oki. Tsans2 (talk) 19:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ad Orientem dropped you a line on you Talk Page Tsans2 (talk) 09:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Following a review it appears that you have adhered to the terms of your above TBan. With its expiration now less than two months away and in response your request on my talk page, I am pleased to inform you that I am lifting the TBan with immediate effect. Please be mindful of the concerns and issues that necessitated the ban and exercise great care when editing in this subject area which remains under Discretionary Sanctions. Any future problematic editing will likely result in a swift restoration of the TBan, which would more than likely be indefinite. I will note the removal of your ban at WP:ACDSLOG. Thank you for your contributions to the project and happy editing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:49, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ad Orientem, the TBAN might need to be re-imposed. See my Warning at the bottom of the page. Btw, I forgot that I've dealt with this user in the past (I still don't remember any details). El_C 17:07, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started
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Vitaliy Parkhomuk
Hi Tsans2, you created articles for three Ukrainian soldiers (Serhiy Vasich, Oleh Svynchuk and Vitaliy Parkhomuk) who died in Makariv and were given the Hero of Ukraine title. The first two still have their articles but Parkhomuk's page was shorter than the other two and it was unfortunately drafted into Draft:Vitaliy Parkhomuk. Do you think you could try to expand the article and move it back to mainspace? I recently expanded the page on the battle of Makariv and I think it is a shame that Parkhomuk remains as a red link while his two colleagues have their own pages. Thanks, Super   Ψ   Dro  21:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Super Dromaeosaurus thanks for you help! I was topic banned because of heavy discussins at Rashism article. So I will come back to Ukraine topics next year I see. Tsans2 (talk) 06:43, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that, my apologies. Hopefully you will get unbanned in the future. Super   Ψ   Dro  08:52, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
 * @Super Dromaeosaurus yes, half the year has passed. Another half is ahead. But I'm patiently waiting and slightly focused on Europe and USA topics Tsans2 (talk) 13:58, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Maropost for deletion
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Warning
Hi again. Please be advised that if you re-add the poorly-formatted thief in law version even once more, you will be sanctioned. Thanks. El_C 16:46, 21 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Tsans2 Tread carefully. If I had seen that first, I'd have probably blocked you. Ping @El C -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:26, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * sure, thanks for warning! my sincere apologies Tsans2 (talk) 12:24, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Block
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violations of Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page:. Euryalus (talk) 14:22, 22 June 2023 (UTC) Warned not to re-add your "thieves-in-law" material to this article, but restored some of it anyway. Blocked for repeated BLP violations. If required, appeal options are in the template above. -- Euryalus (talk) 14:22, 22 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Euryalus I did not use. In this version https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tamaz_Somkhishvili&oldid=1161408669 there is no thief in law. If you mean this "Somkhishvili was first associated with one of the main thieves in law in CIS — Ded Khasan (aka Aslan Usoyan)" - it does not refer to Somkhishvili but to Aslan Usoyan. If needed it will be removed. Tsans2 (talk) 14:27, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Unblock request

 * Hi, and thanks for the ping. The block review is a matter for the next passing admin so I'll leave it with them. However for the benefit of that discussion see ,,, which were all made subsequent to the above warning and allege a "connection with crime" between the article subject and purported "thieves in law" in Russia. The only source for these claims is an unlinked reference to something called "comments.ua."  These edits are fairly obvious breaches of WP:BLP. Given the age of this account it seems unlikely that you are unaware of the requirements of that policy or how strictly it is applied. -- Euryalus (talk) 14:46, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Unblock request 2

 * I think it's a mistake for you to have drafted another unblock request so quickly. One would think you'd take your time to compose it, especially after reviewing WP:GAB, which I wager you have not reviewed. As well, it's a mistake for you to reduce this block to a single mistake. Because it isn't a single mistake, even if that was the impetus. After all, not long ago you were topic banned from this very topic area. Incidentally, Aslan Usoyan was a thief in law — the citation is in his bio, so it'd have been simple to copy. But that was your responsibility. I'm sorry to say, but your recent activity on the Tamaz Somkhishvili page has been concerning. And taken with the prior problems you've exhibited with this topic area (topic ban, etc.), it seems rather untenable. El_C 15:36, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * El_C Regarding this: "I'm sorry to say, but your recent activity on the Tamaz Somkhishvili page has been concerning" - I was reverting spam and blatant promo edits as Wikipedia guidelines ask to do. Please check the current version of the page. It has almost no reliable sources and all controversies are gone. WP PROMO is there. --Tsans2 (talk) 16:14, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Further to the above: I don't support an unblock for the reasons already stated. Sorry to have to say this, but if you're not applying the guidelines on verifiability, reliable sourcing, BLP and NPOV after 18 months of editing, a topic ban and multiple warnings then it's hard to believe this will suddenly change now. Either way I don't intend to keep responding as we're just going over the same ground. Unblock requests are best determined by someone other than the blocking admin, so I'll leave it with them. All the best. -- Euryalus (talk) 15:47, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Euryalus last reply to you and last question:)
 * I read the guides and I narrowed the topic as I was blocked because of nothing more than "thief in law" and the appealing guide says to be precise and answer directly and not generally. So I identified my mistake and appealed the block again. Regarding Aslan Usoyan - he was thief in law - and that what I used in the version on wikipedia page of Tamaz "Somkhishvili was first associated with one of the main thieves in law in CIS — Ded Khasan (aka Aslan Usoyan)...". Literally I did not text it, I just reverted the spam added by another user.
 * Can you please clarify, was my mistake the fact that I did not cite that Aslan was thief in law? If the block for that reason - than I think you can unblock me, as the reason is that I used a phrase " one of the main thieves in law in CIS — Ded Khasan (aka Aslan Usoyan)" - which is correct and not false. If you see my topic ban you will notice that I was right and I was defending from deletion the page about Ruscism. Some pro-Russian fellows wanted to delete it and of course I did reverts and explains. Tsans2 (talk) 16:00, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi again. Your "mistake" was repeatedly creating content in a BLP accusing someone of criminality without anything approaching proper sourcing. And for doing so despite multiple warnings. And then edit-warring to keep your poorly sourced BLP-violating material in the article. Really, see WP:BLP as a whole for why this is not appropriate. It's not about the use of any one single phrase; it's about not using Wikipedia articles to make poorly sourced attacks on living people. -- Euryalus (talk) 20:47, 22 June 2023 (UTC)