User talk:Tsnor

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Hi Tsnor - I'll reply to your earlier deleted messages since I've just now seen them. I'm sorry I came across as rude - that wasn't my attention. It was completely my mistake that I didn't notice you've been editing here for a long time. For what it's worth as well, I wasn't trying to spam - if I'm leaving a templated message for a user that hasn't been welcomed yet, I usually start out with a welcome message so my concern lands a litter softer. I guess it had the opposite effect in this case.

Unless I'm overlooking something, this edit that I removed is what originally made me concerned you had a conflict of interest. The source didn't mention a publication date, and I noticed other future publication dates & books had been added to Michelle Sagara, with many being self-sourced. I'm used to paid editors or COI editors using self-sourced/non-independent sources to announce products or other things that aren't usually in encyclopedias. I'm just telling you this if you're curious as to my reasoning. I hope that kind of makes sense.

Also, fingers-crossed it doesn't come off as rude if I pass on a small bit of unsolicited wiki-knowledge - if you ever want to "ping" someone so they see your message, you can type  anywhere in your message and they'll receive a notification. (Leaving a message on someone's talk page also pings them)

I hope these explanations help - I really had no ill will or bad intention in sending you what I said before or what I'm saying now, just to be clear. But intention is less important than impact, so if you see anything I'm missing or think I should know, feel free to tell me. Also, I'm still a resource if you need help with anything Wiki-related (although I completely understand if you rather go to somone else). Stay safe and have a good week - Whisperjanes (talk) 09:35, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * re  A simple google of the title would have found MANY references to the book and the publication date.  It was on Amazon as a pre-order.  The person who corrected your delete moments after you made it clearly had no problem.


 * Wikipedia is user supported. Your delete for no reason that I can see stopped me from further financial or update support of wikipedia.  It was a while before I even looked to see that your delete had been immediately repaired by someone else.


 * If you looked at my other updates you would see that I don't make many. Not the pattern of a paid editor.  But what if I was -- there were many better ways to handle it than sticking that template on me.  You could, for example, have ASKED rather than handed down the law.


 * Net: not sure what you are trying to accomplish, however in my case you just cost Wikipedia some support and required some extra effort by someone else to put back in the exact same information.


 * I'm hearing you - Next time I'll send a written message asking about possible COI instead. I guess in the future I might add a "citation needed" in the article as well, but I never said that the source was the main problem I had with it. I still don't think unpublished/WIP books that have little or no independent coverage should be in an encyclopedia article - that's a different conversation, though. I could reply to other things said here, but I rather not talk further unless there is something else important to say and I assume you feel similarly - so I'll leave it here.Also, hope you don't mind, but I put our messages in order and tabbed them to make them easier to read & so that my original comment stayed whole. Cheers - Whisperjanes (talk) 20:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, Wishing you a happy new year.
 * Hi there - glad to see you back editing. I'm seeing this very late, so happy belated new year! (or happy summer?) - Whisperjanes (talk) 22:46, 17 August 2021 (UTC)