User talk:Ttonyb1/August2010 Archives

Stanford Jim
Could you have a look at Stanford Jim and see how we are doing making it non-copyvio? I haven't dealt with copyright issues on Wikipedia in a while and I'd like your opinion on how close we are to being compliant so far.Dolive21 (talk) 21:20, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately it is still a copyvio. In order for the text to not be a copyvio, it must not resemble the original text.  The sentences are still copies of the original text.  I am going to reinstate the copyvio tag.   ttonyb  (talk) 22:23, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

2011 is the 1st year of the second decade of the third millennium. How is that an incorrect assumption?
I'm at a loss as to why you changed my edit on listing the year 2011 CE as the 1st year of the second decade of the third millennium. Do the math. There was no "Year 0 CE". Years CE are counted from Year 1. "0" is a point, not a year. Might you think the second millennium ended in 1999 CE? It did not--it ended in 2000 CE. Allllllll of the decades/centuries/millenia end in a "0", not a "9". Alllllllll first years of the decades/centuries/millennia end with a "1". It's simple math. I'll break it down: First Decade (10 years total): begins with year 1, then year 2, etc. As we approach the end of the decade, we get year 8, year 9, uh, wait, that makes only 9 years, not ten. Guess we have to include year 10 to that first decade in order for the First Decade to actually include 10 years instead of nine. Subsequently, the Second Decade must begin with year 11. The same arithmetic naming applies to counting to years 100, 1000, 2000, and 2011.

This change made to my wording is EXACTLY why Wikipedia is not trusted by academics. Nor should it be, with willy-nilly assumption-correctors running amok. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Highsmim (talk • contribs) 19:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Please take a look at WP:RY for more information and the correct explanation. This has been argued at length and your comments are not correct.


 * Please also assume good faith when discussing someone's edits. Your comment about "willy-nilly assumption-correctors running amok" is not very civil, nor is it in the spirit of Wikipedia community. Perhaps you should review the comments you made in that paragraph and consider to whom they might apply.


 * As far as your reason for academia not trusting Wikipedia, that probably has more to do with the fact that the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is not truth, but rather verifiability.


 * I have left you a Welcome message on your talk page. I suggest you might want look at the referenced sections including the section called "The five pillars of Wikipedia".  By best to you...  ttonyb  (talk) 19:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Levia
Hey Tony,I have revised and edited the "Levia" Wiki page and followed all the requested steps, so can I get final approval on it and remove it from the 'deletion' list? Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks.Rollo 01:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Porchista (talk • contribs)
 * It still appears to promote a product. Let's let an Admin decide.  Good luck...  ttonyb  (talk) 01:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Declined speedy Annette Groves
I declined the speedy to Annette Groves, as being a Canadian municipal politician and regional councilor of Bolton in Caledon, Ontario seemed to show importance. — MC10 ( T • C • GB •L)  02:05, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message. Although I don't agree – I looked and found nothing of substance in Google – let's see what happens. If the PROD is removed, I'll probably move it to an AfD.  My best to you.   ttonyb  (talk) 02:09, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello everyone. I would appreciate any help you could provide me with ensuring this page is not deleted. I am not completely familiar with wikipedia markup but I have tried to do my best. Feel free to take a look at the page as it is now. I have referenced Annette Groves to her Town of Caledon page.(Psd007 (talk) 02:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC))
 * The article does not appear to meet the criteria in notability using  reliable sources.  Basically there is a lack of references that meet the criteria in  reliable sources. Take a look at the articles and let me know if you have any questions.  In the meantime I will probably move the article to an AfD to get some more input to the article.   ttonyb  (talk) 02:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I have skimmed through the notability section. There is currently an election happening and one of the candidates (Marolyn Morrison) has decided to create a wikipedia page for herself. Marolyn is an important political figure in the GTA of South Ontario. The Annette Groves election team is attempting to create her wiki page in order to show the very important work the Annette has done over the last decade. We would appreciate if you could give us some time to finish making her page (a few days). If at that point the wikipedia community decides that the page does not meet notability criteria, you may feel free to delete it.References from city hall has been added to the page. More are on the way, we just need a few days ti finish making the page.(Psd007 (talk) 02:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC))
 * I have gone ahead and moved this to an AfD discussion to get some more eyes on the article.  ttonyb  (talk) 05:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Donyil Livingston
Hello,I think I have corrected the issues on the Donyil Livingston page. Can you explain what else needs changed? Thanks for your help in this matter. TheFightGuy2010 (talk) 03:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello, Thanks for helping out with the Donyil Livingston page. I noticed you removed the citation I had put on there because it was a duplicate in the links. My question is if I would have deleted the one in the Links section and left it in the citation would that have been an acceptable citation? Or do I need to put it somewhere in the body of the page or an inline? Thank you. TheFightGuy2010 (talk) 17:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * You are welcome. The reason I removed it was the citation did not specifically support something in the article and was not inline.  References are generally used to support something said in the article and are attached to that statement.  ttonyb  (talk) 18:17, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Melissa Meister
Hi Tony, I'm trying to create this page, I have included the reason's why she is culturally relevant and before you delete can you just help me to figure out what is wrong. I have the external links and internal links correct i think. thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rheppler (talk • contribs) 23:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I have looked at the article and it fails to provide notability for the individual. In addition there are no reliable sources.  Please read the two sections and let me know if you have any questions.   ttonyb  (talk) 00:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Removal of Rawya Ateya from 1997 article
Hi, Ttonyb1. Could you please explain to me why you reverted my addition of Rawya Ateya to the 1997 article? Your edit summary stated that she is "not internationally significant." Being the first woman ever elected in a region of 350 million people makes her pretty significant in my opinion. In fact, the article about her was even included on Wikipedia's main page last March on the occasion of International Women's Day. What makes her less internationally significant than an unnoteworthy American diplomat, an American football player or an American television announcer? The majority of the world's population doesn't follow American football or watch American TV, so if international significance is the criteria for inclusion in the deaths section, then these individuals should be removed too. Regards. --BomBom (talk) 00:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure, the general guideline that is used for entries to recent years is WP:RY. The article does not have any other project articles.   ttonyb  (talk) 02:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Oretronics
Hi, I'd just like to enquire as to why the Oretronics page has been tagged for deletion, since there isn't any inflammatory information on it? It is necessary that people within this line of interest know WHO is out there. Oretronics isn't just a 'for profit' company, as we also support many charity organisations in it's hometown. Schools benefit from our programmes of recycling IT, thus receiving a discount on their new purchases, etc. Please just let me know what I need to change to not have this page removed, as it would seem highly unfair. Regards. Orescanin (talk) 05:52, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The first place to start is the CSD tags that were left on your article and your talk page. Did you read them?  They have the reasons for the deletion in them.  Please let me know if you have any questions as a result of your reading them.  You mention that the article is necessary for people to know who they are.  Wikipedia is not the place to accomplish this, getting the word out about companies is better served by a company website.  Wikipedia is for established companies that have achieved Wikipedia based notability using reliable sources.   ttonyb  (talk) 15:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Americano
If you don't belive check it right here, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005410/ it was first singed by Brian Setzer on the Soprano's soundtrack, Lou Bega has singed that song in 2005 - 2006  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clauzatarra (talk • contribs) 06:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, but it has no relevance in the article.  ttonyb  (talk) 06:36, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Krystal Simpson
Just a friendly notice that the user removed your speedy tag, I have replaced it again. Zoo Pro 09:03, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks...  ttonyb (talk) 14:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I have removed it again. There are enough claims for importance there. The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source. Feel free to AfD. Aditya Ex Machina 07:29, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for Harvest (time tracking software)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Harvest (time tracking software). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Srinath10 (talk) 16:13, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Tony, I wanted to let you know that I revised the page with your input as well as the input of the administrator in charge of deletion, Arbitrarily0. I appreciate your consideration during the process. Thanks!

Billie Swamp Safari possible deletion
Hello, I am getting a copy write issue on my new page. It says it has similar copy as our website www.billieswampsafari.travel, i created the website so how can i fix the issue Billieswampsafari (talk) 19:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Have you read the first section of your talk page? Please do so and let me know if you have any specific questions about the referenced articles.   ttonyb  (talk) 21:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Blue In The Face (band) - speedy deletion
Hello. It appears that you may have found a potential mistake I may have made on my recent article creation "Blue In The Face (band)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_in_the_face_(band). I appologize if I did make a mistake; it is only my third article. I did post a hang-on reply. Could you please review said reply so that we can resolve this issue? Or can you tell me specifically what mistake I made? Thank you for checking my work. Since it was marked for a speedy deletion, please make sure we also have a speedy resolution. Thank you.

Aaron (zenwhisper777) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zenwhisper777 (talk • contribs) 21:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Completely Bare Spa
This is my 3rd time I tried to write an article about this company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Completely_Bare_Spa & this is the 2nd time you delete my post. For the 1st, you guys said that the article lacks references -> ok, fine. For the 2nd time, you guys said that the article is an act of advertising -> ok, fine. But then I found a similar article which is a part of Wiki Business Program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliss_(spa) so I reposted my article for the 3rd time but you guys are trying to delete it again! Why??? Why is the Bliss one acceptable & mine is not? This is a discriminated act! Nnp86 (talk) 21:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The article appears to be a non-notable company lacking GHits and GNEWS of substance. It fails WP:COMPANY. I cannot speak to the other article you mentioned and frankly that article has no bearing on this one.   Each article must stand on it own merits.  Please see WP:WAX.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 22:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Nnp86 (talk) 22:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC) What do you mean it's a non-notable company? So how many GHits & GNEWS do you need me to provide to prove it notable then? And if you're not knowing the company, doesn't mean that that company is non-notable.

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Completely Bare Spa
Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I deleted Completely Bare Spa, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 22:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: V for Victor
Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I deleted V for Victor, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 23:06, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

FYI Craig Agranoff
I won't be contesting your CSD tag A7, because I agree with it. I was just about to tag it for blp-prod, and I will do so again if your csd is declined. Thparkth (talk) 03:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, there does not seem to be much about him about there. My best to you.   <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 03:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

New Age Methodist Church
Hi Tony, can you  figure out what's going  on  here? We've both tagged this for deletion, but  either I've missed something  or just  can't  see how it  keeps cropping  up. Do take a look  if you  have a moment  and tell  me what  I  have not  understood. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 05:18, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * While I'm here - While it was being deleted the user added a hangon template, meaning it was recreated. The hangon didn't demonstrate significance, and so I've deleted it for a second time. Esteffect (talk) 05:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks... <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb (talk) 07:43, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Rejected CSD of Double discography
Although this was originally accepted, I've restored and rejected this CSD as an improper use of A9. A little research showed that the article was a reference to Double (singer), and with the sales figures given it would have perhaps been good to look more closely at this before a hasty nomination. Whether it is now nominated for AFD is up to yourself, but thought I'd let you know. Esteffect (talk) 05:38, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, t wasn't really a hasty nomination, I looked and did not find any instance under Double(band).  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 07:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Richard Scotti
You marked the page Richard scotti for speedy deletion stating it did not meet the notability criteria. According to the notability guidelines for academics this individual qualifies as a notable person in academics.

Academics Main page: Wikipedia:Notability (academics) Many scientists, researchers, philosophers and other scholars (collectively referred to as "academics" for convenience) are notably influential in the world of ideas without their biographies being the subject of secondary sources. Jrm9296 (talk) 17:35, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, but which of the criteria does he meet. If an academic lacks secondary sources the individual must meet the criteria in that section to be included.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 19:55, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks like Tony was right ;)--Kudpung (talk) 03:41, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Countrys Tid-Bits & Candies Cottage
Hello! I noticed you marked Countrys Tid-Bits & Candies Cottage for speedy deletion. A brief search uncovered some third-party sources reviewing this business, so I changed your speedy deletion template to a notability template to encourage editors to add more information about notability. I feel that this article's notability is not so blatantly nonexistent so as to make me comfortable with tagging it for speedy deletion. Feel free to list it at WP:AfD if you still feel it should be deleted. If consensus is reached there in favor of its deletion, I will be happy to delete it. — GorillaWarfare talk-review me! 16:08, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, there was not much support for the article, so I AfD'd it. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 16:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

BLPPROD
Tony, I recently came across a posting (I can't remember where) that  claimed that  if there is an external  link  of any  kind on  the page anywhere, it  should be considered as a reference and thus a sticky  prod cannot be used at  all. I contributed to  the making  of the sticky  prod and it's policy but I  do  not  recall such  a rule. Do you feel  up  to  doing  some detective work? We might need to  clarify  this in  the policy. You could start  by  looking  at  WP:STICKY -  if you  have time, that  is. Then let me know on  my  talk  page and we can make a case for it  one way  or another depending  on  consensus. You'll find that the major comments apart from  the closing  admin's summary are probably  those by users   WereSpielChequers, and DGG,  b ut  they  a re all  worth  a read.--Kudpung (talk) 04:43, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Seven Minutes in Heaven (play)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Seven Minutes in Heaven (play), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Whenaxis (talk) 11:26, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Bianchi Winery
Hi there - Can you please help me understand how I am vandalizing Wikipedia as it pertains to Bianchi Winery? I have seen several other pages without any issues and have followed the same guidelines/coding etc. as they have. I am not trying to vandalize, I just noticed that one section "Climate" kept getting deleted without any notes from you or any other bots. I apologize and appreciate any guidance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casspsu14 (talk • contribs)


 * As indicated in the edit summary of the article when the change was made, the text is a copy of copyrighted material that has been only slightly reformulated. Addition of copyrighted text to Wikipedia is a violation of Wikipedia guidelines and US copyright laws.   <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 19:30, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Question
Why can't we all just get along. --Ak169808 (talk) 00:35, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Didn't know you had a problem. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 02:07, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Jk jk : ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ak169808 (talk • contribs) 05:47, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: GROU.PS
Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on GROU.PS to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 11:26, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 11:27, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: GROU.PS
Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I deleted GROU.PS, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 11:28, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, thanks for letting me know. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 11:29, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: MySpace IWE Championship
Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on MySpace IWE Championship to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question. Thank you. -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 11:34, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, looks as if I am batting poorly this morning. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 11:35, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

About Govt. Haraganga College
I'm sorry about copying Haraganga College's main article form its website, actually i was in hurry and wasnt careful enough about wikipidea guideline.. how can i get back that page again ? this time i m gonna edit it by my own.. plz help —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamonasish (talk • contribs) 02:31, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Speedy on Michelle Rowland
Um, I have to say I'm a bit taken aback by a speedy on this. Just letting you know I removed it (and no, I didn't create the article). The article clearly asserts its importance, which means A7 is certainly not appropriate. Frickeg (talk) 03:03, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message and I have to agree with your removal. I did not realize the date of the election was today's date.  Thanks again.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 03:15, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, OK. No worries. Frickeg (talk) 03:17, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * My best to you. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 03:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, to both of you Jherschel (talk) 03:44, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Steven Huang
Hello Ttonyb1, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Steven Huang, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Misplace article for creation, as per directions. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 11:21, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Renard's "Your Immortal Reality" book....
Ya got me... After I saw your recommendation, I did a little snooping to see what the actual sales of that book were, and they appeared to be rather dismal. So, I went ahead and slapped a <<db-g7>> template onto the page. Thanks for the heads-up. Scott P. (talk) 01:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, I looked at the background before I marked it and didn't feel it met the criteria for inclusion. I was actually hopeful you would enough references to support it.  My best to you.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 01:15, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Signature.
Usually I'm not too picky with them but yours kind of...popped out. Ultimately it's up to you whether or not to keep it of course, but consider this a friendly request to remove the shadow. =) Cheers mate, · <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Andonic <font face="Garamond" color="Black">Contact 01:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * How come? <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 01:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I just found it rather annoying when skimming through AIV. But I mean, ultimately it's your sig, and I'm sure the vast majority of people aren't bothered by it, so do as you please. Cheers, · <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Andonic <font face="Garamond" color="Black">Contact 01:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you are the only person in well over a year that has had anything negative to say about it. BTW - thanks for letting me know.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 02:54, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

circa italics
Hiya,

I am unclear on the need to italicise the c. for Circa in articles.

WP:YEAR is somewhat confusing, because in the text it is italicised, but in the example it is not.

I checked a couple of FA's...in Alcibiades it is italicised, in Giovanni Villani it is not.

Can you perhaps advise, and possibly clarify that MOS page?

Hope you are the right person to ask. Cheers,  Chzz  ► 14:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * My recollection is the "c" is used unitalicized. I took a quick look at The Chicago Manual of Style and found nothing that would indicate italics are appropriate.  I would follow the example.  My best to you... <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 14:55, 23 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. As I understand it, the italic is optional; as the Circa article says, "sometimes" in italics. Happy to go without, and I think I might edit that MOS page so it isn't so confusing. Thanks.  Chzz  ► 16:06, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Harrison Barnes
Since you can fill the references so fast like you did with Austin Rivers, could you do the same with Harrison Barnes? -- Ice (talk) 04:25, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Better than me doing it, let me point you to the facility that will allow you to do it. Go to  and enter the name of the article.  The process is rather easy and quick.  You need to make sure the reference is just the raw URL for it to work.  If you have any problems, please let me know.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 04:28, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for the info. -- Ice (talk) 04:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 04:32, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK credit for Terry Byrne
- Fayenatic (talk) 14:38, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

David Max Freedman - speedy deletion
Thanks for taking the time to look over the David Max Freedman entry. For full disclosure, I know David Freedman personally, and have spoken to him recently.

This David Max Freedman entry is a new entry marked for speedy deletion for a few reasons. He is a writer and creator of several animated TV shows, but did not have his own entry in Wikipedia. To make matters more confusing, some of the references from his works were linked to a different David Freedman and we wanted to correct this. It may take some time to find references for all of his credits, but we are starting with the ones that already exist in wikipedia and fixing their links to point to this page.

A longtime user of wikipedia, I am new to making contributions, so I hope you can bear with me as I help my friend clean up his entry. It is true that I know David Freedman, and therefore his entry is essentially autobiographical, but the intention is to clean up previously incorrect entries (shows linked to the wrong David Freedman) and to start a basic entry for David Max Freedman that can be enhanced by others with valid references.

Peuclid (talk) 14:58, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Profane Omen declined speedy
'cause, "placed 8th of the Top 10 albums in Finland," asserts notability, I higher standard than notability. Dloh cierekim  16:20, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Douglas Glynn Bolitho, MD
Hi, the article was flagged for deletion because of lack of source. I originally provided two sources but both were on the Wikipedia black list so I removed them. They are high quality sources: The American Society of Plastic Surgeons and The American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery. I had linked to Dr. Bolitho's biography on these two websites which validates the claims in the article. If anything is not substantiated by these sources, I'd be glad to remove it. Please let me know if I can add these back and remove flag for deletion. Thank you for your time.

(Hammink (talk) 22:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC))

You left a message on my talk page. ..
And I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand. I neither created the Shibley rahman page nor nominated it for Speedy Deletion. All I did to that page was move it to Shibley Rahman (capitalizing the last name) at the request of the creator of the article. Was there some sort of misunderstanding here?Sxebill (talk) 02:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That sometimes happens when one uses Twinkle to CSD articles that have been moved by others. Sorry for the confusion.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 02:20, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, it happens. Sxebill (talk) 02:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

CSD declined for Jacob Grady
Hey Ttonyb1, thanks for patrolling new pages its a big help! I did however have to decline your CSD nomination of Jacob Grady because the article did indicate it's importance so its not really an A7 candidate. I think notability and sourcing is still questionable though, so I recommend WP:PROD or WP:AFD. Thanks - <font style="color:#007474">Marcusmax ( speak ) 02:16, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I have gone forward with the AfD. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb (talk) 02:20, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I had added a message to the discussion board for Jacob Grady. I appreciate you taking the time to explain yourself and will gladly accept any suggestions to improve the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Largehotcoffee (talk • contribs) 02:17, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Per the AfD, "Non-notable individual lacking GHits and GNEWS of substance. Appears to fail WP:BIO." <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb (talk) 02:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm assuming GHits means Google Hits? 24,000 is not enough? http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=jacob+grady+fakku&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CiXslHiR3TODHApaCywS6sdWxCwAAAKoEBU_QV3k_&fp=b6454997159746f9 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Largehotcoffee (talk • contribs) 02:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually only 117 if you use quotes for the name and go to the last page of the search. The number is irrelevant - as indicated above, the quality of the hits is in question.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 02:49, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Shibley Rahman
Hi I am really sorry if I've offended any of you. I didn't want to. My name is Shibley Rahman. I was asked to produce a short bio of myself. However, I didn't want it to look too glossy. Therefore, I would prefer to keep it to a minimum content-wise so that there's nothing in their that's troublesome. Can I start again on my page? It took my hours last time. Could you delete it and I can try again? Or could you just remove the stuff you think is dodgy, whatever's easiest?

Really really sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Articleman11 (talk • contribs) 02:50, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Writing articles about one's self is discouraged. Please read WP:CONFLICT for more information. For an article to survive in Wikipedia it must meet certain criteria.  Specifically, for biographies it must meet the criteria in WP:BIO.  Wikipedia is not to be used to promote one's self. I would suggest using personal website for that.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 03:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry about this.


 * Actually, just read the excellent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BIO advice. I can see how I can improve this article now such that there is objective evidence that my peers have found my work significantly noteworthy. I am trying desperately to understand it from your point of view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Articleman11 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I read this earlier:


 * COI article for a non-notable individual lacking GHIts of substance and with a single BBC GNEWS (missing from the article) that outlines alleged stalking of an actress [1]. The article reads like a CV and appears to fail notability. ttonyb (talk) 17:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC) Delete, no evidence of notability per WP:ACADEMIC or oth


 * I have put in a notification box. And now I am also explaining how my work has come to be cited; the derogatory reference is stalking is not why I am famous, and I find this remark - notwithstanding I am sure the author is perfectly nice - extremely offensive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Articleman11 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by Articleman11 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by Articleman11 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC) Articleman11 (talk) 21:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)Articleman11

Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by Articleman11 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC) Articleman11 (talk) 21:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)Articleman11

I feel as if I've done my best to tackle your substantive points. Please let me know if you'd like me to do any more. Others can of course contribute unless it contravenes Wikipedia's code of conduct.

Articleman11 (talk) 21:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)Articleman11


 * Let's get back to basics:
 * Writing articles about one's self is discouraged. The reason is evident in that the article is not written from a independent point of view. Comments such as, "As part of his career, a commitment to the adequate explanation of complex scientific and medical concepts has been pervasive," are a good indication of the lack in independence. I again suggest you read WP:CONFLICT for more information.
 * For an article to survive in Wikipedia it must meet certain criteria. Specifically, for biographies it must meet the criteria in WP:BIO, for academics the criteria is WP:ACADEMIC.  The criteria in the article must be supported by reliable sources.  The article currently lacks reliable sources to support the statements made.  Using an article as a reference does not support the notability of the individual, it only confirms the individual wrote an article. The article still resembles a resume.   As stated above Wikipedia is not to be used to promote one's self. I would suggest using personal website for that.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 02:37, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


 * These are good comments. However there is a 'yeah but'. As evidence that my work had been quoted from "reliable sources", I indeed cited three huge textbooks in dementia which had discussed my work, including the latest textbook of medicine. For you then to obliterate them from my article is wrong, I feel. And then your other reviewers complain it reads like a CV whilst at the same time I have to demonstrate my considerable notability in the world of dementia. For example I went at the invitation of the President of World Federation of Neurology division tp their conference in Turkey this year to discuss dementia. His name is Prof Facundo Manes, and feel free to contact him if you have concerns about my 'notability'. You will find that my research continues to make a massive impact.


 * Otherwise, I've done what you say which were excellent comments. I am new to this, so please forgive me. Articleman11 (talk) 21:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)Articleman11


 * Please stop adding comments here that are posted elsewhere. I can read them in the original form and location.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 22:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

CSD declined for Ernie Joseph
Hello Ttonyb1, I've had to decline your A7 speedy tag on Ernie Joseph because importance is asserted (in that he is "well known"). Feel free to AfD, PROD, etc. Regards, Airplaneman   ✈  03:58, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Their Love of Music deletion
I'm new here and just put up the titled page for a project I'm working on...every word of the text used was written by me for the project. When I returned to it to start adding things today, it had been deleted...help? thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davethomas82 (talk • contribs) 16:24, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The deletion message in your talk page details how to get a copy of the text you wrote. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 16:50, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, Ttony, but I don't understand your response. I would like to get the page reinstated please.  How do i go about that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davethomas82 (talk • contribs) 16:53, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The article was deleted because it was a copy of existing text and therefore a violation of Wikipedia guidelines and US copyright laws. If you are the author you need to donate the material for use in Wikipedia or rewrite the text so it no longer resembles the original text. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 17:00, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Just got a helpful response from the Airplaneman, so I think I now understand...Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davethomas82 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Occupational Therapy: A Ray of Hope
Sir being one of the member of this great initiative i strongly oppose the deletion of this page named "Occupational Therapy: A Ray of Hope" it was regarding an initiative to spread Occupational Therapy awareness in India. if possible please re-post it or at least mail me its content it was solely written by me.. Sorry to say but i love Wikipedia for its quality but this is something demoralizing an initiation by students. Thanks Amit Kochhar Occupational Therapy Student —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitkochhar (talk • contribs) 16:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


 * The deletion message in your talk page details how to get a copy of the text you wrote. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 16:50, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Indonesian soccer stubs
Hi, I note your enthusiasm - I tend to err on the side of caution - due to possible dropout of connections in indonesia - and other such things as either lack of adequate english - filling a talk page with speedy messages if they have not got the hang of hangon seems counter productive - this particular user has signs of getting things right - when I lived in Indonesia many years ago I can assure you the connections would have made it impossible to create anything due to lags and dropouts - that my two cents anyways -cheers SatuSuro 03:38, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your 2 cents. Thanks... <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 03:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats kind of you - we have an eternal BLP issue with another who shows no sign of responding - he's a different kettle of fish - but hey - I'd rather be outside than in this hell hole cold computer room - Im out to get my vitamin d right now - cheers SatuSuro 04:22, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice...I've spent more than my far share in those cold rooms. I found the disposable ear plugs were more useful than VitD.  My best to you... <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 04:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually ( a very typical opening word for limited english indonesians ) I might set you on some of the soccer misbehaviouring ones at a later date - I got my dose of sun today - but the soccer onslaught continues unabated :| SatuSuro 12:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Great work

 * Dawnseeker, thank you very much for the Barnstar. It is nice to see that my "hobby" is appreciated.  I should note that you are just as, if not more, diligent in patrolling the years pages than I am.  It always gives me smile to see when you have corrected a years page before I can get to it.  8-)  Thanks, again and my best to you.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 00:55, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Shibley Rahman - response
Please stop adding comments here that are posted elsewhere. I can, and do, read them in the original form and location. If you have an issue with someone else's response or comments, I suggest you contact them about the comment. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb (talk) 22:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Tony. I was simply adding them in the wrong place. Very sincere apologies. Articleman11 (talk) 01:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)Articleman11

Have made it clear this is just an ordinary biography, not a biography of an academic

Articleman11 (talk) 18:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)Articleman11


 * Once more I shall ask you to please stop adding comments here that are posted elsewhere. I can, and do, read them in the original form and location. If you have an issue with someone else's response or comments, you need to contact them about the comment, not me, them.


 * I have answered your questions, as have others, as to why the article does not meet the criteria for Wikipedia inclusion; however, once more, the article does not meet either the WP:BIO or WP:ACADEMIC criteria using reliable sources. I suggest you read WP:UNCIVIL and base your next comments on that article.  If you continue to refer to my behavior as "rude impolite offensive" you shall be taqged as uncivil.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 01:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Really really really sorry. I am really genuinely sorry about this, even if you scrap the article. I just felt that no-one was reading the references carefully. For example, over half of them are from groups other than Cambridge and London. But I won't drone on as usual, and I hope to be civil and co-operative (and I mean it completely) I personally don't feel that there is a lack of reliable sources; I've quoted news stories, book chapters, secondary sources in the form of book reviews. All the papers quoted have discussed my work (to prove it my papers are in their list of references). I don't even know them. Articleman11 (talk) 01:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)Articleman11

Please note that elsewhere on this site I have completely agreed with you now that I don't feel this merits at all a biography, and I wrote the original article. Some of the stuff on neuroscience might be useful elsewhere in your brilliant encyclopaedia though Articleman11 (talk) 08:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)Articleman11

...
I read that you put up my page, Toby Turner, because it didn't have a reliable source, but it fact, on the last section, entitled "Toby's Self-Written Short Biography" has a link to a website created by Toby Turner. His biography was written by him, and most of my information was taken from this page. The only other information I gathered was straight from his Youtube videos.

On another note, he actually approved of me making him a Youtube page through a message.

Please, if you would wish to elaborate on how I can fix said problem, tell me.

Edit: I have found out the error on my own and fixed it, hopefully. I added in a reference the page I was speaking of previously. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AustiNoTexas (talk • contribs) 03:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

speedy
I cannot tell is How Bad U Want It is Notable but the article as written does seem to be entirely promotional, and I have given this as a speedy reason. But it certainly was not empty and di have meaningful content.  DGG ( talk ) 09:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)