User talk:Ttonyb1/October2010 Archives

Bob Baldock post
Not clear how to go about editing the post to improve its documentation and delete stuff that isn't documented. I guess the article will disappear and I can start over? K Weaver Kathleenweaver (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC).


 * The issue stems from the lack of unsupported statements and lack of notability. See reliable sources for what constitutes a valid reference and notability for what is needed for an article.  ttonyb  (talk) 00:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Shotokan Karate Coalition
Hi there. I note you have included a request to speedy delete this article. Can you please see DMacks rquest also together with my explanation. I am trying to update this now but I have the note you have placed on there and cannot remove it. Can you please confirm? Thanks Kiwi Karateka (talk) 01:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw DMacks' statement and I waited 2 days before placing a CSD tag on it. BTW - you should not have removed the tag.  ttonyb  (talk) 04:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tonyb1. Please accept my apologies. This is/was my first article and I was trying to put the hang on tag as I wanted clarification but clearly I must have removed the tag. Please be assured that this was wholly unintentional. If this has caused inconvenience or otherwise then I apologise. I had exchanged correspondence with DMacks and believed that whilst this was work in progress, the further details I had added would be sufficient as I was aware of the time pressures I was under from DMacks. I now note that the page has been deleted again. I am at a loss now and am looking for guidance as I believed in my earlier exchange that the information was of a sufficient standard to warrant inclusion. I have also seen other similar karate organisations pages and see little difference in them. Any pointers or help would be really appreciated as I am not sure what to do now. Sorry. Kind regards Kiwi Karateka (talk) 07:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

contest Ol Irish Design and Build Company deletion
References got deleted of worry of copyright infringement however "Administrators should take care not to speedy delete pages or media except in the most obvious cases. If a page has survived a prior deletion discussion, it should not be speedy deleted except for newly discovered copyright violations. Contributors sometimes create pages over several edits, so administrators should avoid deleting a page that appears incomplete too soon after its creation." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#A7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wexgal (talk • contribs) 11:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Ttonyb, I declined the speedy on this article in reaction to Opposes 12, 20, and 22 at my failed AfD. I'd like to get your reaction. (There's also a discussion going on about this at User_talk:SoWhy, but I don't want to be accused of canvassing, and I've already probably invited too many people to that party, so I'd appreciate it if you'd answer here, not there. You're a very active non-sysop CSD'er and I'd like to get your view. I'm watching this page. Best regards,  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 15:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


 * TransporterMan, I need to logout for a while, but I'll review when I return. Thanks...  ttonyb  (talk) 15:47, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Cyberwit press
Myself, I think a statement that a press has published multiple famous authors is very unmistakably a statement at least asserting importance, and your speedy was therefore not really correct. But I do know if the press is actually notable, and I advised the author to show that more clearly before trying to restore an article.  DGG ( talk )
 * Thanks for the heads-up ; however, I don't think I marked it. I now see it as of September 5th.  ttonyb (talk) 16:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Natasha Bedingfield
You suggested that Natasha Bedingfield was a copyright violation of. But isn't it more likely that it's the other way around? See Talk:Natasha Bedingfield for details. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:23, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks and sorry for the trouble.  ttonyb  (talk) 14:15, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Crowd size controversies
Could you hold off for a day or two? There is a huge edit war going on at the Restoring Honor Rally crowd size section resulting in it's second block. nd if sensible heads prevail, the crowd size section at the Restoring Honor Rally will be much more brief, stating the range of estimates, the methods of arrriving at them and a little about the controversy, which one source noted ended up in gaining as much notoriety as the event itself. I currently has a kitchen sink approach, with too much given to the CBS scientific numbers, and too much weight given to dubious misreported estimate. This article is intended to be much different. The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous (talk) 06:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of K.L. Misra
(munnanmisra (talk) 07:25, 7 October 2010 (UTC))I had started writing this page which has been removed as it has been assumed that it was a case of copyright violation from http://klmisra.blogspot.com/. Since that article has been written by me about Pt. K.L. Misra and I operate that blog (http://klmisra.blogspot.com/), I fail to understand how can it be a possible case of copyright violation. Further Pt. K.L. Misra has expired in 1975. If it is acceptable I would appreciate if the speedy deletion could be undone. Thanks.


 * If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. Until such time, the article is considered a copyright violation.  As for the fact the individual has died, that has no bearing on the validity of the article and does not absolve the copyright issue.   ttonyb  (talk) 15:10, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

fraser cameron article
violation of my own copyrighted image now removed and replaced with my own image taken from camera. malcolm fraser cameron Malcolm Fraser Cameron (talk) 19:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The article is still a copy of the original text noted in the CSD tag.  ttonyb (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Who are you
why do you wanna delete my page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kazzdude1 (talk • contribs) 03:41, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The article fails to meet the criteria for inclusion into Wikipedia. If you continue to vandalize my pages you will be banned from editing and creating article, I suggest you stop your disruptive edits.  ttonyb  (talk) 03:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * FYI Airplaneman   ✈  03:43, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I saw the disruptive edits. Thanks for reversing them for me.   ttonyb  (talk) 03:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Jenny Gomez
Hello, I've declined your CSD A7 tag of Jenny Gomez because importance has been asserted. Feel free to AfD, PROD, etc. if you wish. Regards, Airplaneman   ✈  04:02, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up.  ttonyb  (talk) 04:03, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I realize there may be opinions regarding her notability. I came across the article about her in the Wall Street Journal two days ago and I thought it was really cool that a shoe shine lady made the WSJ! I was even thinking about buying a good pair of shoes (I only own 2 pairs of sneakers and 1 pair of workboots, but I have an old pair of good shoes somewhere perhaps) just so I could go into the city and meet her and have them shined. But I don't know if she is notable enough for everybody here, so I can kind of see how it might go either way, keeping or deleting? I hope the community decides to keep Jenny Gomez but I'm not going to fuss much about it other than to say that I hope Wikipedians keep her in, and I won't have one of my usual wiki-tantrums if the article gets deleted.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:09, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Christian Hostert
Racing career of Christian Hostert Sources: http://3511.hot2.zap.lu/press http://www.wort.lu/wort/web/sport/artikel/01757/hostert-trotz-widrigkeiten-zu-siebtem-sieg.php http://www.wort.lu/wort/web/sport/artikel/02505/hostert-knuepft-an-gute-saisonresultate-an.php http://www.kartetpantera.com/res_Essay_avril2007.html http://www.kartetpantera.com/res_CoupedefranceN100_2006.html http://www.kartetpantera.com/res_Biesheim_15_avril06.html http://www.kartetpantera.com/res_kartmag05.html http://www.kartetpantera.com/res_coupedefrance_lavelan.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by HosCh030 (talk • contribs) 07:20, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Zed bazi
Other than the text that I've removed (and that you restored!) to the article, nothing on the cached version of the Facebook page has been in the article. Please stop trying to have this text deleted; you're already at 4RR. Nyttend (talk) 19:55, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If it is a copyright violation, why should I stop trying to have it deleted? Perhaps you should give me the benefit of the doubt and ask how it is I am able to get the copy of the text and you are not.  ttonyb  (talk) 20:14, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

christian hostert
what's your problem dude? please at least check the links and search the web instead of deleting the article after 5 seconds of publication! and indicate what's the problem of the page? I edited the page and added a text+links so what? There are lots of racers who are minor important on wikipedia! I edited a text about his career so am I just wasting my time for nothing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by HosCh030 (talk • contribs) 17:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

hi
why did you just delete all of my work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rachelhelizabeth (talk • contribs) 03:29, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

why did you delete all of my work. you have no right to. i was in the middle of creating a page for a friend and you just delete it. she is real. just look at her imdb page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rachelhelizabeth (talk • contribs) 03:41, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Kenneth Cody article
I understand why the article was deleted. I just wanted people to know the candidate's platform, especially since there was a redlink on Rush Holt's wiki page for Kenneth Cody. DM 794 (talk) 19:11, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Atomic Tom
Hey Tony go check the page, its been sourced with reputable sources.CPacker talk to me 00:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Brendan McElroy Deletion
Hi Tony,

I'm not sure why this entry is nominated for deletion. The Dr Brendan website seems to get quite a quite a few hits and he has been the focus of several non trivial news publications and broadcasts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpamac (talk • contribs) 05:04, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The number of hits a website gets does not support Wikipedia based notability. The article appears to fail WP:BIO – it seems to lack "non-trivial" secondary coverage.   ttonyb  (talk) 05:17, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * In what way are the new york times and cnn trivial? Many people with bios in wikipedia do not have a full page in the NY Times, or a 5 minute segment on cnn... am I wrong? comment added by Bpamac (talk —Preceding undated comment added 05:27, 18 October 2010 (UTC).


 * You may be right, but a couple of articles may not be "non-trivial". By using the AfD process a number of other editors will chime in with their opinion.   ttonyb  (talk) 05:32, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

K. David van Hoesen
Hi. I have declined your CSD on  K. David van Hoesen. New Page Patrol needs all  the help  it  can  get, especially  from  the bottom  of the backlog and I'm  sure that  this rapid  tagging  does not  reflect  your usual contributions. If you need help  understanding  our policies, especially  WP:BLP, and the use of Twinkle, don't  hesitate to  ask.--Kudpung (talk) 06:02, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I am not sure why you would decline a copyright violation that is contrary to Wikipedia guidelines and U.S. copyright laws. Given that the article stood for 40 minutes without an attempt to resolve the copyright issue I am doubly perplexed.  What does this have to do with WP:BLP?  ttonyb  (talk) 06:09, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Perhaps if you were to slow down a bit  and do some WP:BEFORE and WP:SOFIXIT;) With  all  due respects, pure rapid tagging  can, and often does, get  criticised as disruptive editing.  As friendly  suggestion, perhaps you  would like to  take a break  from  Twinkle and take a look  at whether your own creations meet the requirements our current  policies.--Kudpung (talk) 06:46, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the suggestion. My best to you...   ttonyb  (talk) 06:49, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Instead of playing games, I seriously suggest that you now take an extremely close look  at  our policy  on  copyright and how to deal with  it, and then take a good look at some of the  articles you  created,  and then take a serious look  at your NPP  history.--Kudpung (talk) 07:39, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * First of all, isn't one of the tenets of Wikipedia "assume good faith"? I have no idea what games you are talking about and your cryptic comments do nothing to advise me about the issue.  If  you have a specific issue about my edits, then quit playing games and be specific about the problem.


 * If you feel I removed the section of the article without cause, then feel free to restore it with an explanation.  ttonyb  (talk) 15:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Article Help
I really don't get it..... I keep showing proof,links etc and no one cares, they just keep deleting! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oplexicon (talk • contribs) 12:14, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * ...and the article you are you referring to is? <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 15:19, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's been deleted. But I am Stacy Paul Rugely. I am on IMDB, have numerous albums to my credit, and I was also born and raised in the cult "Children of God/Family International" Someone else did an article on me, and then I found out, though "hey, cool", saw it for a day, and then it was gone. I decided to try and edit, add links etc, and yet to no avail. I was also a producer on "My Trip To The Dark Side" a recent feature film by Shane Stanley... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oplexicon (talk • contribs) 08:04, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Ttonyb1, this is prabhu reddi from UTT DMC, my organziation articles will be nominated for deletion. This organization contains various information regarding worldwide travel, visa, cultural informations and videos. so plz make a review on the article. Regards Prabhu reddi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uttdmc (talk • contribs) 05:25, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Seven Advertising
Removed the biographical data. Changed the tone to be more neutral. Weare7 (talk) 05:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Jim Chapman (Canadian) Notability
Hey, this is the first article I have written, and I was hoping to figure out how to prove him to be a notable person. the problem is that although he doesn't fully meet any one of the secondary criteria, he does nearly meet several of the secondary criteria, including creative professional, entertainer, composer, musician, and politician. Also, he was interviewed by wikimedia news. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and I apologize if I'm using the talk page incorrectly, this is my first time. Goodbucket (talk) 01:19, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia and congratulations on creating your first article. Unfortunately, not all articles created for Wikipedia are appropriate for publication.   The article appears to fail to meet the criteria. Just because he may have been a creative professional, entertainer, composer, musician, and politician does not mean the article meets the criteria in those articles.  If you believe he does meet the criteria, please show me how and I'll help you reformulate the article so it meets Wikipedia format.  <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 01:31, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

On Copyrights
I got a message from you regarding the copy rights. Yes I took the material from the web page but that is because I have the permission from the owner of the website to take the content. The article is about the biography of a person and all I have done is taken information from his website about his life and that too with due permission. Please tell me what's wrong here.--Keepgoingraj.arora (talk) 03:44, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Have you read the notice placed on your talk page? <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 03:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

V.V. Ranganathan copyright permission
i have emailed the original author from where I took the content and he is going to send me a confirmation soon. once i get the confirmation i post that email to permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org with the URL.

is that the process? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keepgoingraj.arora (talk • contribs) 04:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Perfect, I'll change the article tag to reflect this. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 04:16, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Peter McLean (cabinet maker) copyright permission
Thank you for your advice. I will try a re-write. I thought that I had made sufficient changes, but....Shipsview (talk) 17:27, 21 October 2010 (UTC) The article has been re-written.Shipsview (talk) 20:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Howard Brown
In this edit, you simultaneously moved links that had been claimed as references, and then tagged the article as an unreferenced BLP. Did you check the links to see if they did, in fact, verify Brown's story? If they do, then they are valid references, even if not cited properly. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, had you checked them you would have noticed they were blanket links to a website main page where the individual was not listed anywhere on the page. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb  (talk) 18:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I see that an article I posted is set for deletion. I have updated the article, and will work on it some more in the coming days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WordUpdater (talk • contribs) 12:50, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

'Vandalism'
I would expect someone like you, who has been here for a very long time, to know that this is not vandalism, and twinkle is not supposed to be used for edit wars like that. We may disagree with this editor, but that doesn't make them a vandal. The vandal link is never supposed to be used like that; only for blatant vandalism, and that edit isn't anything close.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs
 * Thanks, in my haste I used rollback vandal instead of rollback. <span style="font-weight:bold; color:blue; text-shadow:grey 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em; letter-spacing: 2px; padding: 1px 3px;"> ttonyb (talk) 22:54, 22 October 2010 (UTC)