User talk:Ttwweennttyy

Hi Basie

Many thanks for all the info and the advise you have been giving me, and I fully appreciate all your comments and understand the situation with content on Wiki.

As much as anything the idea to start with for to figure out how Wiki works, how to upload onto it etc and I was using what I was doing as a 'cricket web'as a set on content.

Anyway that being said, it obviously a fine line between what can be seen as advertsing and what can be seen 'as in the public in interest'.

I will do as you suggest and start to add bit as pieces as they become relevant and see where it goes.

Its interesting that you mention gaming as many of our guys who work on 3D motion capture for Second Life and other virtual worlds are realy in this stuff big time. In fact its all they talk about !!

Anyway Basie, Many thanks all your help

Kind regards

Richard --Richard Fetherston 09:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Basie

The article I was working on was on 'TTwweennttyy' which is about Twenty20 cricket.

Its basically a website I have set up written mainly by students from around the world. Where they interview and do articles on cricketers and anyone to do with cricket but always with a Twenty20 focus. www.ttwweennttyy.com

Anyhow, maybe you could give me some pointers when I get it up, as to areas to develop it.

I appreciate your help

Thanks

Richard Fetherston 16:02, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Basie

Many thanks for that, and I will go through this in the next few days and see how I get on.

I appreciate your help, as its been a bit of a struggle - Not sure if I have quite got the signing bit but I think your saying it is like this. Many thanks

Richard Fetherston 15:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi I must admit I find trying to set up a Wiki page rather confusing, and don't quite understand how this message I am sending actually gets to anyone.. Anyhow, into the valley etc

What I have done so far last week is to set up a Wiki account and then once I did that, to write a description for the page, which I then put on the page. I also put a description of what I had done when I went through edit processes.

What I cant figure out is what happens now or if I am meant to send it to someone to get it posted or if it goes ito a checking process before it can be used.

I have also read through the WIKI pages and also looked for user groups to chat through this with with no luck.

Maybe you could point me in the right direction.

Many thanks

Richard --Richard Fetherston 12:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * G'day Richard. The message 'gets' to me because this page is on my WP:watchlist.  If you look up in the top right hand corner of the page, you'll see some links, one of which is to your watchlist.  This alerts you when a page you are watching has changed.  That's how I knew there was something to reply to here.


 * The second thing I want to tell you is to sign your entries on talk pages (like this one). You do this by typing four tildes, like this: ~ .  The tilde key is usually in the top left hand corner of your keyboard, often near the 1 key or the Esc key depending on the keyboard.  This lets everybody know who is talking, and adds a date and time.  If I was to sign my post right now, it'd look like this:


 * "Basie (talk) 19:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)"


 * Now, about articles. Which article are you working on?  Usually when adding a new article you just jump in and create it.  To do so you go to the page in the encyclopaedia where you think the article ought to be and the wiki will tell you whether or not the page already exists.  If it doesn't, the wiki gives you a link to "start the article".  You enter your changes, press the save page button and voila, the page is created.  Other users (probably including myself) will come along and look at it, and may make changes or comments to improve it.


 * I recommend you read Your first article which gives you a good guide. If you have any questions, enter them by editing this page and editing beneath my comments.  To indent your questions, add :: before each paragraph start as is customary in these conversations.  The page is on my watchlist so I'll be sure to see it. Cheers, Basie (talk) 19:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I need some help setting up wikipedia (Richard Fetherston 11:40, 22 January 2009 (UTC)).

Speedy deletion of Ttwweennttyy
A tag has been placed on Ttwweennttyy, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the article or have a copy emailed to you. andy (talk) 16:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Moving on
G'day Richard. So unfortunately it seems you've experienced your first "speedy delete", often called a CSD. Please don't be offended, it's a pretty common occurrence actually! What it means is that you've posted an article which is outside Wikipedia's main mission: to provide neutral, factual articles on notable topics.

At first it may seem unreasonable. Your site is a perfectly good cricket site, so why shouldn't people read about it on Wikipedia? The trouble is, there are many perfectly good sites out there! So Wikipedia has come up with some pretty strict rules on what is a good subject for an article:
 * we are not allowed to post our own sites, per WP:EL. I operate a blog, but I'm not allowed to post an article on it.  This is an attempt to maintain neutrality and avoid conflict of interest problems.  Even if I was the owner and operator of http://microsoft.com I probably wouldn't be allowed to submit a link to it!
 * we are required to prove notability. In other words, is the subject important enough to be in an encyclopaedia?  An example: I'm pretty good at my job, but I am not notable in my field.  It's unlikely Wikipedia will contain an article about me in the forseeable future ;)  You can read about proving notability here.
 * we try to add to existing articles before creating new ones. This helps to avoid many small articles in favour of larger ones with more editors cooperating.  At least in theory ;)

So, where to from here? Well my advice is not to submit your site as a new article or a link to an existing one. Instead, I'd use your obviously extensive knowledge of the 20/20 game to improve articles like Twenty20, Twenty20_International, and other cricket articles. This will help you get a feel for the place before you dive in. People will from time to time let you know if a change you make isn't quite right, but don't stress too much about that--it's all about talking to people and figuring it out between you. Cheers, Basie (talk) 21:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC)