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Ukraine portal
Hi Tufkaa. If you are interested, please check the Ukraine portal, particularly the "current projects and collaborations" and "Things you can do" windows. Don't forget to announce `the new articles you create at Portal:Ukraine/New article announcements board and please make sure to add this board to your watchlist. Same applies to the Russia portal that you might be interested in as well. Ласкаво просимо! -Irpen 03:46, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

A message from User:Shaft121
Tufkaa has been awarded the Shaftington Holdsworth Gold Merit Award for outstanding contribution to obscure Eastern European folk dances!

Congratulations!

Shaft121 22:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I have moved this message here from your user page. Mushroom (Talk) 22:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Stebliv
Дякую дуже for an expansion of Stebliv! Please hang around! --Irpen 04:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Allow me


You're more than welcome. May I suggest you put something, at least until you come up with something else at your userpage so that it won't show up in red in histories. The software converts three tildes into a username, like it makes four tildes a username with a date stamp and five tildes with a date stamp without username.


 * Many people find it useful to start the user page is the WP:BABEL languages template that list your level of proficiency in the languages. If you need help, feel free to contact me. --Irpen 05:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, just a suggestion if I may. When you write articles using some outside information (usually that's what we are all using), it is usually a good idea to list the references in the end. The rule of thumb usually is to list external sites, books or newspaper articles that you actually used in under the references heading in the end of the article. OTOH, useful links or books on the topic, that might be helpful but were not actually used is better to list under Further reading or External links headings. Hope you don't mind my advise. Feel free to ask if you need any help. Stick around! --Irpen 02:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Arguing
I would like to thank you for a civil discussion even though we disagree on certain issues. On the city name, may I suggest for you the long discussion I had with Michael a while ago. It all started from me moving "Dnipropetrovs'k" to "Dnipropetrovsk" and got to a much wider issue. See this and to the end of the page. After some time, Bryndza added some comments in the middle of the discussion (you could see from time stamps) but basically we gave this issue a good once-over that ended up with the current state (it was almost just two of us in Ukrainian topics at the time, now the situation is better thanks god). One of the results of our discussion was the move of all Oblast center articles except Kiev and Odessa to their Ukrainian names. From that moment on I keep an eye on them. I hope you will find this reading worthy even though it is somewhat longish.

On Ukrainian-Canadian issue, what's your opinion on the Canadian Ukrainian article. Do you have anything to expand it with? Cheers, --Irpen 22:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

The flavor of the word "take"
Hi! I a have a question to you as to a native English speaker. Does the word "take" assume any negative flavor in English when applied to war events like: "taking control over a certain territory", "taking positions", "take a city" etc. Why do you prefer "reclaim"?

P.S. It might be reasonable if you respond directly on the talk page Talk:Battle of the Lower Dnieper.--Mbuk 19:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Ukrainian Dance
Привіт. Я зробив категорію commons:Category:Ukrainian dance. Зараз там мої власні фотографії з концерту ансамблю Вірського у Донецьку та з фестивалю етнічної музики у Карпатах. Можливо щось з того буде цікавим для використання у статтях про українські танці. Якісь фото з концерту не дуже добра, було недостатнє освітлення, але я подивився, що на офіційному сайті не набагато кращі фото. Також я розмістив там зображення марки й монети, що були випущені до 100-ліття Павла Вірського. Щасти. --Yakudza

Hello
Hi there! I only noticed the Ukrainian Dance category the other day, and was surprised that there was still so much happening on the subject. I'm just glad it's being represented. There's pretty much nothing for Ukrainian dance on the internet. I will definitely try to contribute as much as possible. Thanks for keeping it up! Mrrria 22:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Rusyns
Привіт. Маю деякі коментарі щодо редагувань статті Rusyns, англійською сформулювати це складно, тому пишу тут. На мою думку чисельність русинів наведена тобою у статті з сайту є певною мірою гіпотетичною. Ось що пише з цього приводу Пол Маґочі (англійською теж саме українською) - наведу деякі фрагменти з розділу The Problem of Nomenclature ''It is important to keep in mind what is meant by the term Rusyn. Traditionally, the name Rusyn or its local variant Rusniak has been used by the East Slavic inhabitants of the Carpathian region to describe themselves. However, by the twentieth century, in particular its second half, the historic names Rusyn/Rusniak were replaced by others, such as Ukrainian in Soviet Transcarpathia and the Presov Region of Slovakia, or Lemko in Poland. ...''

''In other words, some people will say that Rusyn is simply the older historic name for Ukrainian, and that Lemko is a regional name of Ukrainian, while others are convinced that the names Lemko or Rusniak are regional forms for Rusyn which, in turn, designates a people that is distinct from the Ukrainian and every other surrounding nationality. It should be noted that the estimated figure of 1.2 million Rusyns given above refers to all people of the same linguistic and ethnographic origin, regardless of how they designated themselves in documents such as internal identity papers, passports, or decennial censuses. Our concern here will be primarily with the present-day Rusyn movement or with that portion cf the group (the precise numbers are unknown) that considers Rusyns to comprise a distinct people.'' Зрозуміло, і Пол Маґочі у наведеному фрагменті це також визнає, що у наш час русинами себе називають дуже невелика кількість з названих 1.2 мільйонів людей. Це в першу чергу русини Воєводини і Словаччини і деяка кількість закарпатців. Як свідчить останній перепис це 10 тис. мешканців Закарпатської області. Поза Закарпаттям в Україні русинський рух абсолютно відсутній. Таким чином, на мою думку варто навести в таблиці офіційні дані переписів (українські, словацькі, сербські та хорватські), як це зроблено в таблицях інших народів (дивись наприклад Ukrainians), а не приблизну і дуже умовну цифру з сайту www.carpatho-rusyn.org --Yakudza 21:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note Yakudza, and forgive me but I can only write in cyrillic fonts on my laptop, which currently is acting up, so I'll repond in english: I am no apostle of Magocsi, and very rarely if ever agree with him. I do however, know plenty of people that identify as Rusyn, Rusnak, Lemko, Hutsul, etc. and not with any current nation-state, and can only empathize with having one's language mocked and one's history marginalized. I frankly felt wary that my own edit inserted too many references to Ukraine. In general, I would like for this article to be as balanced as I hope others would treat articles relating to Ukraine, which in general gets short shrift on WP. As for disputing the numbers stated: please go ahead and include as many facts as possible. I only grabbed that particular population total because an amount was unnecessarily absent from the infobox, and I googled to find a place-holder.--tufkaa 22:28, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Notice of arbitration
An arbitration request involving you has been filed.--AndriyK 19:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC) Please add your statement. Your participation would be very helpfull. Regards,--AndriyK 20:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm working on it, Andriyu!--tufkaa 21:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Adding "liberation" to "Words to avoid"
I filled the proposal for Words to avoid. Please find it here. I would be thankfull for your commennts, suggestions and corrections.--AndriyK 15:45, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

RfC about Irpen's conduct
Hi! We filled a request for comment concerning the conduct of User:Irpen. Your comment is kindly invited.--AndriyK 16:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Mediation
A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Requests for mediation/[[Battle of the Lower Dnieper/Lviv]], and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.

Thanks for the templates
Hi Tufkaa, I wanted to say thank you to you for the Oblast templates that you have been changing. They look much better than the old ones we had for Ukrainian articles! mno 21:22, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks! All part of the larger effort.--tufkaa 21:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * What larger effort? I've been out of the loop for a while. --mno 18:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The larger effort of educating people about Ukraine, of course! Hopefully all of the templates will be done by the beginning of next week, and I will post thoughts about how the project can continue at Talk:Subdivision of Ukraine.--tufkaa 19:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Allow me
For contributing so many Ukrainian 🇺🇦 related articles to wikipedia, and particularly, to standardization of Ukrainian locations articles, cities, villages, oblasts, creating excellent templates article and tireless work to improve the Ukrainian coverage on Wikipedia, good natured discussions in case of disagreements, etc., I hereby award you this National Merit Barnstar which I asked minted with a raspberry ribbon, a historic color of the Ukrainian Cossacks, yours and mine ancestors and, in many ways, founders of the modern Ukrainian nation! Keep up the good work! --Irpen 05:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Ukrainian translit and geo-names
Hi, Tufkaa! Thanks for contacting me. I was under impression that currently there are no users interested in further developing the infrastructure of the Ukrainian geo-articles. It's good to know I was wrong.

Seeing little interest in maintaining consistency of naming of Ukrainian localities and administrative divisions from others, I was making corrections according to WP:CYR, which is a proposed policy for transliterating languages using Cyrillic script. My line of reasoning was that even though WP:CYR is not yet adopted, it makes little difference which transliteration system to use if nobody else cares anyway. I should also note that current names of Ukrainian locations are often transliterated inconsistently (Kirovohrad Oblast template was a good example of that), which was another reason for my edits.

Now that I know that some of my assumptions were incorrect (you, obviously, are interested in the topic), I have no problem stopping further "housekeeping" edits. I got involved with Ukrainian locations only because I wanted to complete the series of disambiguation pages for Russian localities sharing the same name. Adding Ukrainian (and, later, Belarusian and possibly other Slavic) settlements to the project was trivial. I generally have no further interest in Ukrainian or other Slavic administrative divisions&mdash;I have my hands full with just the Russian ones!

I would, however, appreciate your advise regarding which transliteration system I should preferrably use in future in regards to Ukrainian geo-names. I am sorry if my edits disrupted anything&mdash;while I know the Russian administrative structure in and out, I am not so knowledgeable about the modern Ukrainian one, so I pretty much acted on analogies and instincts. Thanks!&mdash;Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Cities as raions?
Hi there. I dropped in to tell you that I find your numerous edits like these, confusing and little bit misplaced. You're going the right direction, but please don't omit a context. This info matches the Subdivisions of Ukraine, Raion and townlet much better. Just in case, I'm a graduated political analyst so you're probably the one to be mistaken among two of us (sorry for telling that). So I'm deleting your edits where I see it. Let me know if you wish to develop the topic right. But not on each city page anyway :( AlexPU 18:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I just reverted you on Zhytomyr. Let's discuss. What is your take on designating cities as their own separate raion within the oblast. Confusion or inaccuracy? Right now, all cities of that nature are using that text, so let's discuss.--tufkaa 18:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi again. Please don't revert me in those cases :(, at least for some time. Cause you're adding typical info in many articles. In likely case if you loose the dispute, somebody's going to change all that :(.
 * I'm more than ready to discuss. My first and hardly insisted suggestion is not to put your info on every each city page. "all cities of that nature are using that text"? Bad for us anyway. Cause roughly every city of Ukraine is of "that nature" :(. As you can see above, I suggest to describe the issue on the topical pages, and make links to them in the "See also" section of every city.
 * "Confusion or inaccuracy?" - rather inaccuracy and unencyclopedic approach. As I told, you're moving the right direction: there's a serious problem of power division between oblasts/raions and respective oblast/raion centers in Ukraine. You didn't invent anything false or irrelevant. Let's describe it at Subdivisions of Ukraine (BTW it's going to be a hard task). But should we bother our readers with such in-depth analysis on every city page?AlexPU

Good idea to move this to Talk:Subdivisions of Ukraine. My preference would be to have міста областного значення mentioned in the english equivalent in each article on міста областного значення.--tufkaa 19:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


 * See my reply there.AlexPU 08:25, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Please cite sources
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Stanley Williams (ballet), but we regretfully cannot accept original research. Please find and add a reliable citation to your recent edit so we can verify your work. Uncited information may be removed at any time. Thanks for your efforts, and happy editing! Can&#39;t sleep, clown will eat me 03:25, 17 July 2006 (UTC) Who are you and what are you talking about?--tufkaa 20:42, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Allow me


Thank you!!!!!!--tufkaa 17:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the "Exceptional Newcomer" award. A bit late in coming, but I thanked you originally on my page...

Good deeds inspire good deeds. I've now made it my policy to award people I see doing good work, especially those for whom recognition is long overdue.

Congratulations on your impressive awards collection. You certainly deserve it! --Editor at Large 17:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I just recently noticed the thanks on your page. Hope everything went well with your time off.--tufkaa 17:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * You too. Those who look to Wikipedia for all information Ukrainian must be glad you're backI I don't know about you, but I enjoyed/hated my break. It was nice not having to "work" every day, but it was horrible worrying about who might be mutilating my pages while I was gone! --Editor at Large 22:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Polka
I appreciate your policing the linkspam that's been added to this article lately, but in one of your reversions you reinstated three paragraphs that I'd properly removed. They exist to gush over specific organizations and are most decidedly POV material. They don't belong in the article. Please leave them out. VoiceOfReason 19:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't realize. I must have lost track from all of the spammer's tricky edits. Sorry about that.--tufkaa 20:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Upcoming Independence Day
--Riurik 04:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC) 

З Різдвом Христовим і з Новим Роком!


[[Image:Kiev Christmas tree (Maidan Nezalezhnosti, 2006).jpg|thumb|250px|center|[[User:DDima|DDima]] presents to you this wonderful Christmas tree of Kiev (Kyiv) and wishes you an upcoming Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

З Різдвом Христовим і з Новим Роком! —dima/s-ko/ 16:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)]]

UA History template
In relation to our discussion, please tale a look at Talk:Russian Colonialism where I had a similar discussion with another user. I think it is time do AfD that whole article, btw. Regards, --Irpen 19:35, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Hallo,

We were at the SF-con last year and there for the first time we heard about "Lana -Wild Energie". Fortunately I was able to read the book in russian and I like it very much. Can You tell me, if the book is translated into English or German? And they told us, there will be a big Show on tour also in Germany, but we never heard about it again. Unfortunately the translator who was asked by a German publishing house didn't like the book as much as I am and so he didn't recommend it. I would like to hear more, also about the authors. The book was like starting to read it and going on to the end without leaving it. greatings Sabine and her family sabine.seyfarth@t-online.de

City-Raion stuff re: Ukraine
Dear Tufkaa, please stop adding rant like "city itself is also designated as its own separate raion" to Ukraine articles. I clearly understand what do you intend to say, but your wide-spread wording is confusingly wrong. Just believe me cause I make my living from studying Ukr. politics and government. Read thoroughly Subdivisions of Ukraine instead. Contact me re: anything, but please don't restore that your phrase anywhere. Wishes,AlexPU 12:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Forgot to post diff link as an example: .AlexPU 12:24, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, Tufkaa, sooner or later all of us encounter AlexPU with his difficult to deal temper and annoying boasting about his "professional expertize in Ukrainian politics". This is one of the examples of the former and this is an example of the latter (I especially liked the perl that "The Ukrainian president can appoint Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of Defense unilaterally (without nomination or approvement)" ) that needs to be occasionally cleaned up (sometimes I wonder what sort of media organizations employ such proFFesional experts). (That's aside from the edit summaries like this or or many "proFFesional" entries like this).


 * As for the essential part of what he is saying ignoring his tone as most learned, I think this is an example of how to put this better and less misleadingly. I already replaced the original phrasing you added in the articles of the towns and cities that I got to editing. Let me know if you like it. Gradually, we can rephrase this everywhere but I am not inclined to go bot-like and do all of them at once. When I edit the article for whatever reason I replace your text with my version. Let me know what you think. --Irpen 19:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I haven't looked at any geographic articles in a while (I believe the edit cited was from July?!?!), so I'm ignoring most of this. I will be focusing more on Christianity in Ukraine, and have other articles in mind to improve. We're all trying our best here.--tufkaa 23:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. Ukrainian Christianity is a fascinating topic indeed and I am only waiting for being able to put aside a couple of hours since this is not a type of article that one can contribute in 15 minute increments. I just wanted to check that you do not disapprove this kind of phrasing. --Irpen 00:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Ukraine
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Carpathian Ruthenia
Would you mind taking a look at Talk:Carpathian Ruthenia/Archive 1? I found some seemingly contradictory information that I believe you had added originally. Clarification would be appreciated. Olessi 23:26, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Transliteration policy
As a member of WikiProject Ukraine, you are invited to participate in the discussion about transliteration of Ukrainian words. I would appreciate your participation. Discussion is located here. Thank you. — Alex(U 17:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

request to move to kyiv
Hello,

I have set up a request to move the page Kiev to Kyiv.

I have outlined four key reasons for doing so in the discussion section of the page.

Looking through the archives, I saw that you had contributed to this page earlier. I would like to hear what you have to say on this topic.

Thank you

Horlo 02:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)Horlo

Award


Ondine
May I alert you to a discussion on merging Ondine (Sir Frederick Ashton ballet) into Ondine (Henze)! — Robert Greer (talk) 18:52, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Andrij Dobriansky
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List of Ukrainian folk dance companies
You can see the deletion discussion at Articles for deletion/List of Ukrainian folk dance companies. Cirt (talk) 20:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw the deletion discussion. It did not answer any questions.
 * I would like to at the very least rescue the information that was culled together from all over the world, and then look into revamping the article so that people don't summarily delete it. Next step?--tufkaa (talk) 20:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Question about Eurhythmics
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 * Just seeing this now for the first time. As far as I recall, there was an article on Eurhythmics that was deleted. I recovered the information and reposted, possibly adding some rewording. Noticed the deletion because I had it linked in another article and found it odd that deletionists had gotten to it. I see that the article is in good standing now. Thanks!--tufkaa (talk) 18:32, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Dance
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Peer Review
Hello! I submitted the Irish Stepdance article for a Peer Review here. Could you please take a look and comment? Thanks! ReelAngelGirl  Talk to me!   Tea?  20:48, 6 April 2012 (UTC)