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Bobby Tench
Great work on the above page. If you wouldn't mind checking some of the ISBNs on the references section - they are supposed to go blue with a link, like some of the ones I've done, but I don't have the books so I can't do them all. You may wish to check the following pages as guidelines on how to reference sources in a more clear way: Van Morrison, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen (it took me ages to understand how references work on wikipedia). If that is completed, then the article will be at a good standard of quality. If you have any questions then reply on my talk page if you wish. Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 12:43, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

December 2008
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 * Please see also WP:COMMONNAME and Naming conventions (common names). Thanks. 58.8.15.52 (talk) 18:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

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Citing sources
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album infoboxes
You might want to check this link out before you add the infobox for Hummingbird (Hummingbird album): WikiProject Albums. Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 16:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Bobby Tench solo singer?
Please name me one album Bobby Tench has sung on, not as part of a band or performing under someone else. When you name that album I'll shut up and admit I was wrong. Until then he is not a solo singer. Kitchen roll (talk) 16:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Still in love with you
Good point Still in love with you a single on Stiff. Bobby recorded this with Brian Robertson from Thin Lizzy who plays guitar on this single.B side is Heart out of love. The single released in 1986 On the Stiff record label The release number is BUY242. The single is promoted on the Stiff website.

The single was released as a 6" and 12" single. If you put Google "Bobby Tench Still in love with you" you will see plenty of verification! Thanks for your help.--Tunebroker (talk) 17:35, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

An earlier reference for Bobby Tench as a solo artist is The single Chain gang / Looking for a good time. 1982	Line records 613587.--Tunebroker (talk) 17:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Great work
I wasn't expecting this, wow! I was wrong and I've shut up. Sorry Kitchen roll (talk) 20:45, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

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Eric Burdon
Hi, I read your edits on the article page of Eric Burdon. Attention, you had much work. But there are some things that are not right. Burdon did nothing for MTV in 2008. "Sixteen Tons", "We Gotta Get out of this Place" and "No Man's Land" all happened in 1990. Also "Live at the Coachhoudse" was shot on Oct 17 1998, not 2008.

And there are some things with the times. What means The Animals 1962-2003??? You should sort it a bit more, like 1962 - 1964... 1967- 1969, First Marriage, 1970-1971, solo from 1973-1979.... you know what I mean???

But you did great work anyway.

- JTSomers —Preceding unsigned comment added by JTSomers (talk • contribs) 12:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Re-arranged Animals section
I get you and have re-arranged the Animals section. It is dfficult to put uncomplicted time lines for Eric Burdon's association with The Animals  and therefore it is probably best just to have the headings without dates in the Animals section. If you think it could be changed to more advantage pleased do so. Thanks --Tunebroker (talk) 13:21, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

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Bobby Tench infoboxes
Can you please stop adding infoboxes on the page, as they don't really belong there. If you want them to be included in wikipedia write an article for them, like I did with "Still in Love with You (Thin Lizzy song)". You've done some great work on Bobby Tench, although there are still some issues with the article. If you want it to get a high rating on the wikiprojects you must consult the Manual of Style guidelines or some editor might put a tag on it or something like they did before. If the article gets a little more care, it could possibly get to GA standard. It already has enough info., and you're knowledge on Tench is obviously very advanced, so you shouldn't have too many problems expanding the article even further. Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 18:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Kitchen roll! I appreciate you guidance and compliments. I am tryiing to do my best and I wanyt to learn th rprotocols! Will do those things you suggest.
 * Have a geat time editing wikipedia. Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 21:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

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Boxer (band)
You might like to break out Boxer (band) into separate pages for each album.

It's normal for each album of a band to get its own page on Wikipedia; and it will probably also give you an easier time with Wikiepdia's image police.

If you do split out the pages, don't forget to update the image description pages to point to the new album article pages that the images will have moved to.

Good editing, Jheald (talk) 21:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Have done that. I had a previous situation with Gass (The band) and an album called Gass but an editor felt it should be included eith th eband article.

Thanks for your help. --Tunebroker (talk) 03:39, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

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Live at the Roxy and article rating
Firstly the Live at the Roxy CD. To make the info. on wikipedia reliable you must reference it with proper sources instead of just stating in the ref. that it's true - put a web link in or something. Where did you get the info. from, because I'm a massive Van Morrison fan and this is the first time I've heard of this official release of the album? It'd be increadibly interesting if you can prove it. I'll ask user:Agadant about it (who also knows a lot about VM).

The problem at the moment with the Bobby Tench article is that it doesn't follow closely theManual of Style guidelines (I'll read it over and see if I can sort the Tench article out to get a better rating). Nearly everything would have to be gramatically correct to get a B rating and perfect to get an A. All the references have to be reliable as well, with clear links to books or web pages so that it's easy for anyone to see where the information has come from (see "notes" section on Bob Dylan & Van Morrison pages). I think a picture of Tench would also be needed. I have the Van Morrison in Ireland vid so I'll see if I can get a picture of him in action off that for the article.

Here's the B class assesment and I've ticked the things I think the article has at the moment:

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 * The prose contains no major grammatical errors and flows sensibly, but it certainly need not be "brilliant". The Manual of Style need not be followed rigorously.
 * 1) The article contains supporting materials where appropriate.
 * Illustrations are encouraged, though not required. Diagrams and an infobox etc. should be included where they are relevant and useful to the content.
 * 1) The article presents its content in an appropriately accessible way.✅
 * It is written with as broad an audience in mind as possible. Although Wikipedia is more than just a general encyclopedia, the article should not assume unnecessary technical background and technical terms should be explained or avoided where possible.

It might be just one thing that prevents it from being a B class article, but the issue has to be adressed. Thanks for all your hard work - I'm sure we can get it to B standard in no time! Happy editing Kitchen roll (talk) 21:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

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Bloodletting
I think it was spelt both ways on the article to start with, so I looked on allmusic and it was spelt "Blood Letting". I've googled it and checked the album and it should be Bloodletting - never trust allmusic. I don't know why I removed the links to the album, I guess it's just one of those stupid things you do sometimes. Thanks + happy editing Kitchen roll (talk) 21:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

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 * Hello there! If you look at the article and compare it to the website, it becomes clear that the content in the article is not original. If someone creates an article using text from the website, that would constitute derivative work - which is not permitted under copyright law. For example:


 * The Fine Art Trade Guild was formed in 1901. This guild was preceeded by the Printsellers association, which was formed in 1847 to preserve the integrity of the Limited edition print against unscrupulous traders.
 * is far too similar to:


 * Formed in 1910, the Fine Art Trade Guild is the successor to the Printsellers' association, which had been set up in 1847 to preserve the integrity of the limited edition print against unscrupulous traders.
 * In reality, there's very little difference between the two statements. Similarly,


 * The Fine Art Trade Guild represents print publishers, printers, framers and others in the print and fine art industry. They preserve their integrity by allowing only Guild members to display the prestigious logo[2], as a sign of their commitment to the Code of Ethics laid down by the Fine Art Trade Guild. The Guild Print Standards and Print Registration scheme, governing edition size, print quality and durability, have been industry benchmarks for more than a hundred years. 
 * parallels:


 * It represents print publishers, printers, materials and equipment manufacturers and suppliers, [...] display the prestigious Guild logo as a sign of their commitment to the Code of Ethics. The Guild Print Standards and Print Registration scheme, governing edition size, print quality and durability, have been industry benchmarks for over a century.
 * I've just cherry-picked some examples, and these problems are evident elsewhere as well. Unfortunately, it's not acceptable for us to base an article upon the text on the website, you need to create a completely new article - express things differently, say different things etc. I'd be happy to help you create a new article which doesn't infringe. Best wishes, – Toon (talk)  20:58, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I've created a new article here, which doesn't infringe copyright. It's only short, and could do with expansion, but remember that it's an encyclopaedia article and should not contain all of the information from the organisation's website; only what is appropriate for an encyclopaedia. Best wishes, – Toon (talk)  16:25, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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Better Bobby Tench rating
Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. I think the Tench article just needs a picture and a puctuation check and then I think you could put it in for a rating. Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 10:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Van Morrison refs. etc.
In the Rogan book it just states Van Hooke just recomended Feat & Tench to Morrison, but on the Tench website it states that Feat & Tench also played in Streetwalkers together, which proves Van Hooke saw Streetwalkers and thought that Tench and Feat were good players. So both refs. prove the statement.

I know that the info. on the Bobby Tench page is all true (or nearabouts) but the people who rate the article won't think like that and will count the unreferenced material as untrue. Take the Van Morrison page for instense, it's a B-class article, but when it was nominated for GA some material wasn't referenced so it remained B-class, eventhough the unreferenced material was true. If you can't find a ref. for something try and cheat a little bit and pretend to include it in a ref. that's already there, by putting it behind the ref. - you know it's true, so why should it be removed?

I'm sorry I don't know anything about the Microsoft Explorer and {{Reflist|3} thing, I could try and look into it for you if you want? Thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 16:51, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Good tips, yea an input on {{Reflist|3} issue would help-thanks.--Tunebroker (talk) 16:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Bobby Tench failed its GA review
Hello there! Unfortunately, I have failed the GA review of Bobby Tench. I feel that you've done an excellent job on the article so far, but there's still some work that needs to be done. Especially info about his personal life. For more details, as well as some suggestions that I'm sure you'll find useful, please check the talkpage for the article. Thank you, and good luck in your future editing! Carpet Crawler message me  05:16, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You've worked fantastically well on the Tench article and nodoubtedly deserved a better outcome. In my opinion the article is at a really good standard now. Of course, as you mentioned, it would be nearly impossible to get a good section together about his personal life at the time being. Hopefully when his solo project (whatever it is) is more publicised, some more info. could surface, but until then I'll scrape together anything I can find. Great work and thanks Kitchen roll (talk) 20:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

referencing and thanks
I'm sorry about giving you that aweful advice on references, please don't use it. It was very irresponsible to give it to you, and rather immature. I have decided to resign from wikipedia. I'm really sorry I don't have a solution to your microsoft explorer problem, maybe you can ask someone on the queries talkpage on wikipedia? Best of luck to you in future editing, thanks and sorry Kitchen roll (talk) 20:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)