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OFC qualifiers
I've gone over the article you mentioned (much appreciated!) and I can't make any sense of it, either.

I can say that I've been back and forth to the OFC website repeatedly for over a month for ANY information regarding the qualifiers and... nothing. Lots of futsal info, but that's about it. They probably have as much knowledge about his as we do, I'm afraid.

Also, the article almost sounds as if New Caledonia should be awarded the second OFC spot by default. Can you imagine if they got to the World Cup that way? What would that say for the credibility of the World Cup, not to mention FIFA's involvement in beach soccer? Caperspark (talk) 09:32, 6 August 2013 (UTC)


 * This is certainly good news, indeed! I've also made updates to the Wiki page as well as the main World Cup page to reflect the new information. Caperspark (talk) 10:21, 7 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Looks like we finally have some semblance of a schedule. Read into it what you will. http://roonba.atspace.co.uk/beachsoccer/men/fixtures.html Caperspark (talk) 11:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

CAF qualifiers
And the funny thing is that it took a bloody YouTube video! Go figure! And it, BTW, made no mention of Algeria, so somebody must have gotten some wrong information, or based it off of the last CAF qualifier. Caperspark (talk) 09:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Euro Winners Cup
Whazzup? Wow, what a great CONCACAF qualifier. Can't wait for the CAF qualifier!

Anyway, I have a new wiki up for the new Euro Winners Cup --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Euro_Winners_Cup. Since there's no TV or stream for it, we'll have to do it the old-fashioned way and wait for the scores and summaries to pop up on Facebook. Shouldn't be too much of a hassle, right? ;-P Caperspark (talk) 15:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

2013 FIFA BSWC Qualifier info
This is great stuff going on now. About two weeks ago, we got word of when the CONMEBOL qualifiers will be and now we've found out about the Asian qualifier info. And yeah, the Wiki pages for them are set up and ready to go.

Now, we have to wait for the OFC, African and CONCACAF qualifier info. Caperspark (talk) 13:03, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

2015 FIFA BSWC Wiki deletion
Done deal. I don't understand why someone wants this page deleted. I guess this guy hates beach soccer. Sucks to be him, I guess. Caperspark (talk) 19:25, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

FIFA BSWC UEFA Qualifiers
No kidding! I was amazed by the comeback France pulled off! To come back from a 3-0 deficit after two periods and win on PKs? Unbelievable.

I thought the Russia-Switzerland match would be the clear match of the day (and it was), but that Portugal-France match equalled it.

BTW, what did you think of the format they`re using, with another group stage after the Round of 16? Not a huge fan of it. Was kinda surprised when I first found out they were doing that. Caperspark (talk) 21:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * BTW, the website beachsoccer.ru has been a massive help! They've kept realtime stats of every single match! Makes you wonder why BSWW isn't doing this. The webcast is great, but if beach soccer is to ever truly grow, the fans need more access to information about the events they do. Caperspark (talk)


 * Yup. I can give you another example. I did the Wiki page for beach soccer at this year's Asian Beach Games, and man, their info site really brought the bomb... realtime scores and stats, rosters, and if that wasn't enough, complete and detailed summaries of EVERY MATCH, even including who the referee was!


 * Oh yeah, we have our four teams bound for Tahiti. IMHO, it was Russia's to lose. The BSWC just won't feel right without Portugal and Switzerland there. I had a feeling Italy wouldn't make it, but Portugal and Switzerland? Definitely did not see that coming. Makes you wonder how rattled they'll be for the remainder of the EBSL season. Caperspark (talk) 00:59, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

2012 Euro Beach Soccer League
Damn, I never thought they'd have the info for this available! In any event, it's now out, and I have the Wiki page for it set up.

Only three stages before the Superfinal. This should prove to be interesting. Not only that, the EBSL picked up a major sponsor in this Power Horse energy drink. Maybe it tastes like Red Bull! :-P Caperspark (talk) 19:32, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


 * It's possible the OFC might have more countries outside of the Solomon Islands and Fiji send beach soccer teams for their qualifying tournament when it comes up. And I do think they may still have a qualifying tournament of some kind. Maybe this time, Vanuatu won't have to worry about a cyclone keeping them home!


 * We'll see how it'll shake out when it comes time for the tournament to take place, as FIFA might grant Oceania an exemption for Tahiti in this case.


 * And as for the UEFA qualifying info: I kinda got lucky on that. I wasn't expecting to find it so soon. Caperspark (talk) 21:02, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

It's Final time!
I'm with ya there, brotha! So is Tibullus! Caperspark (talk) 13:59, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

BSWC Group Stage
Wow. The group stage is almost over, and it's been a cracking one. I kinda suspected before the tournament that Group A would be the 'Group of Death' in many ways, and it certainly did not disappoint!

BTW, I didn't say thanks for updating the Discipline Wiki earlier (not very nice of me!) so I'll do that now. Also, thanks for the SportLemon link. It's definitely come in handy. Who would've thought that Al-Jazeera would do a great job of covering the tournament as we like it - live? Very disappointed at Eurosport for not covering the World Cup the way they covered the EBSL.

So, how will you use the rest day tomorrow? ;P Caperspark (talk) 12:42, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Not to worry. I had a doctor's appointment this morning, so I missed the first two QF matches anyway. I got caught up pretty quickly, though.


 * But yeah, who would've thought that El Salvador would make the semis of the World Cup? I'll bet the bookies lost a lot of quid when that happened, and they might lose more if they make the final! And the Brazil-Portugal match? Man, that's fit for a final! I seriously thought that Nigeria would shock Brazil. They showed Brazil that they weren't afraid of them. I gotta say this: Brazil looks beatable. They didn't really impress in the group stage and Senegal gave Portugal their first real test of the tournament. Caperspark (talk) 00:37, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Yellow and red cards
Well, like I said, I just wanted to try something here. I figured it couldn't hurt, right?

As for the new Wiki page... I'll get right on that! ;P Caperspark (talk) 13:14, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

FIFA Beach Soccer WC
Sure, no problem. Wasn't sure how it was done previously. Perhaps we can find a way to add in the PDF link as a secondary means for the match reports. Couldn't hurt! ;-)

BTW, how crazy was the Group A matches? Now THAT was beach soccer! I did not expect Senegal to take it to Switzerland as they did. Wouldn't it be weird if all Group A matches finished with everybody at a 0 goal differential? Caperspark (talk) 12:18, 2 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Indeed! I didn't really consider Tahiti beating Venezuela as an upset, and this is based on how they played during the OFC qualifier. That was probably Tahiti's easiest match of the group, with Nigeria and Russia coming up. But Brazil? I thought they were gonna destroy Ukraine, but the Ukrainians proved something to the defending champs, and to themselves.


 * Another point about Group C was the low attendance figures for both of the group's matches. With powerhouse squads like Nigeria and Russia there, there should be no reason for the low turnouts. Caperspark (talk) 23:47, 2 September 2011 (UTC)


 * As you may have noticed, I moved the goal scorers list to a new Wiki page. Now we got some newbie who thinks we need something there for reference. I say no, since a link to the page is all we need. What say you? Caperspark (talk) 17:55, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. I added the extra extra goal headings as placeholders. They would have been gone by the end of the tournament anyway.


 * So no problem here. I just needed an opinion, and got it. Caperspark (talk) 19:39, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Not sure if you've seen it now, but I figured out how to add yellow and red cards into the summary. Had to do it in the goals part of it (not cool), but it works! You can always undo it if you think it sucks. Just wanted to try something here. Caperspark (talk) 12:29, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

FIFA BSWC Wiki changes
Like the changes you did to the page! BTW, you're welcome for the updated logo! Helps to know something about Photoshop and screen captures. ;)

BTW, the team rosters were released yesterday, and I updated the team's roster pages accordingly. Caperspark (talk) 14:47, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


 * It'll kick off at 10:30 am my time (I'm in the Atlantic time zone). Haven't found any streams to watch it, and I might get shut out at FIFA.com, but I'm sure I'll find something to see it.


 * Get ready for 11 days of insane competition, great beach soccer and insanity updating the page! You know there'll be the usual sycophants screwing it up for everybody (including Mohsen1248). Caperspark (talk) 21:38, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, I am really ticked off. There are no streams available to watch the games, and the FIFA.com TV stream is only available in Europe. This sucks. Caperspark (talk) 13:35, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanx for the heads-up
I did a check of this guy's IP. It shows he's in the U.S. (California, to be exact). His history shows he's hit the FIFA qualification Wikis only.

Some people just do not get it. Whatever happened to communicating with people?

As for your other point, it's OK by me. Not sure why you needed to ask, really! Caperspark (talk) 21:48, 12 August 2011 (UTC)


 * One other thing: are you sure it was that IP? It looks more like this IP was the real culprit --> 67.121.127.36 . 21:54, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

EBSL and CONMEBOL
Looks like BSWW is handling the schedule conflicts reasonably well.

Can't believe how crazy the Superfinal is becoming. Can you believe Juanma has three goals, two of them into his own goal? Unbelievable.

BTW, watch out for Meitar95. He's becoming a rather sneaky one now. Funny how he decides to come back after almost a year away. Caperspark (talk) 15:22, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


 * No, not as of yet, but he's been lurking around and springs up when you least expect it. Kinda like what we used to do on our own time! ;-P


 * The Promotional Final match will be interesting. Fitting it has the two teams who were both promoted and relegated. Caperspark (talk) 16:06, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Yep. Can't wait until 1 September. It's gonna be crazier than it has ever been! I was thinking about doing this year's Mundialito Wiki, but I'll let it go (World Cup yer, ya know!). If someone else wants it, let 'em have it. Caperspark (talk) 11:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Houston, we may have a problem
I just saw the match times for the CONMEBOL qualifier set to start this coming Sunday and I already noticed a possible glaring problem - the overlap of matches between the qualifier and the EBSL Superfinal, both set to go at the same time!

I did a check of the match times between the two (since Eurosport will cover the EBSL), taking into account the obvious time zone differences and I noticed that August 6 and 7 will pose a small problem, that being when the last match of the day in EBSL will finish, the opening match of the CONMEBOL qualifier sked (knockout stage by this point) will have begun. Caperspark (talk) 12:00, 25 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I couldn't agree more. No available streams for any of the matches (even beachsoccer.com isn't doing it), and as you said, news of the event is scarce at best. The best source for tourney info is at cbbsbrasil.com.br and THAT'S IT!


 * You'd think FIFA and BSWW would have been able to work around a logistical problem such as this. It was fairly easy to solve, IMHO. Caperspark (talk) 21:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


 * What lack of coverage? Not today, and likely not tomorrow. BSWW actually had a stream available to watch today's matches.


 * And ya, I was shocked at Uruguay being knocked out as well. A non-shocker is how Brazil is just obliterating their opponents. I thought Chile would gets beat worse than they did. In fact, Chile LED for a brief time! Caperspark (talk) 22:19, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Possible changes to EBSL?
Couldn't get the stream on beachsoccer.com to work for the first Saturday match, but I managed to find a Eurosport stream, so it was OK! The British announcer made an interesting comment in which he suggested that the lower two teams in Division A be sent to the Promotional Final, along with the four Division B stage winners. Not sure about yourself, but I like that idea.

As well, and this is my own suggestion here, why not give the team that loses in extra time or PKs a single point? They already give the winner of that two points already, so why not the loser get one? Would make it a bit fair, really. Caperspark (talk) 22:51, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

EBSL Stage 4
Well, we know will take part in Division B for Stage 4. Eurosport bailed me out again! And ya, it's up on the EBSL Wiki. England is in this one. Caperspark (talk) 14:42, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I think Eurosport's been covering beach soccer for a while now, so it's not really any surprise. It is definitely good for the sport. Caperspark (talk) 23:20, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Wow, what a Stage! Good to see France qualify for the Promotional Final. Never should have been relegated in the first place. I'm pretty sure we'll see Belarus there as well, based on their good goal differential.


 * And how about Poland? In each of their matches, even against Italy and Switzerland, they had points for the taking, and every time, they concede a last-minute goal. Unbelievable! I really can't see them winning a match next week. With a power-packed division, they are gonna get decimated. Caperspark (talk) 22:45, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

EBSL Stage 2
Yeah, and especially in front of their home crowd. The Czechs played a sound match. Let's hope they actually get to play in the Promotional Final. They were supposed to last year, but had to pull out, allowing England to step in.

And how about the Russians? Balanced attack is all you can say. Shishin was a one-man goal-scoring machine, but others helped chip in.

Not sure if I feel bad about Turkey. They fought to get to Division A last year and they totally crashed out. No doubt they'll be relegated in the Promotional Final. Wonder if we'll see France try to take back the spot they lost? They have two stages left, so it won't surprise me if we see them again, either in Ravenna or in The Hague. Caperspark (talk) 23:43, 10 July 2011 (UTC)


 * BTW, the confirmed teams and sked for Stage 3 in Ravenna was found (thank you, Eurosport!) and posted on the 2011 EBSL Wiki. The teams in Division A for Stage 4 were therefore determined based on that. Piece of cake! Caperspark (talk) 01:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)


 * That's still a mystery for now, but as with France in Stage 3, it won't be a total surprise if the Netherlands did field a team for Stage 4. Caperspark (talk) 12:16, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

About the overdue stuff...
1. I think it's too early to say who'll advance to the knockout stage. I will say that until we find out who the CONMEBOL qualifiers are, Group A looks like the Group of Death right now.

2. Nope, never said anything to him. Apparently, he tried to get in touch with me on the Arabic version of the FIFA BSWC page, but it was written in Arabic and couldn't read it. Not sure if he was trying to open a line of communication or hurl an insult.

3. With the lack of interest from the confederations regarding beach soccer, it makes you wonder why they bother sanctioning the sport at all. Kudos to the OFC and CONCACAF. Caperspark (talk) 00:13, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

FIFA BSWC groups determined!
I just saw that the groups for the FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup were just determined today in Rome. Wow, that was quick! And yes, I have updated the Wiki page to reflect the groups and the subsequent schedule. Caperspark (talk) 15:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

That wacky Iranian guy
Why? What's he done now? Caperspark (talk) 21:53, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I've asked him to get a hold of either of us to talk about this. Hopefully, we can set him straight on why we do these beach soccer Wikis the way we do. Beach soccer is a totally different animal from, say, the Champions League, and we both understand that. Caperspark (talk) 01:26, 1 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Nope, and I really don't expect him to. Not surprised at that, really. I'm thinking he's waiting for one of us to contact him first. Caperspark (talk) 10:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

CONMEBOL qualifier info
Mucho thanx for filling out the CONMEBOL qualifier Wiki. Didn't think they'd hold the draw for that this early. I've added some of the other extra things from other qualifier Wikis and made a few modifications to the page. It's a month away, but at least the EBSL is going on before then! Caperspark (talk) 21:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Major shocker: the CONMEBOL site has nothing about the upcoming CONMEBOL qualifier. No skeds, no subsite, nothing. Guess it shows how much it cares about a sport that it practically created. Caperspark (talk) 10:24, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Madagascar info
Ask and ye shall receive! Here is a link that has their CAF qualifier roster --> http://www.courrierdemada.com/mg/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17833:beach-soccer--eliminatoires-zone-afrique--les-barea-partent-pour-laventure&catid=38:sport&Itemid=64 Caperspark (talk) 12:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

2011 Euro Beach Soccer League
Yes, it's that time again. Time for another EBSL season. I already have a page set up for it here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Euro_Beach_Soccer_League). Beachsoccer.com should have all nine matches online, like they did last year. Caperspark (talk) 14:04, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

CAF qualifier info
We got a date and place for the CAF qualifier. It's in mid-June at Casablanca, Morocco. The info's already up at the Wikipage for it. Caperspark (talk) 09:55, 7 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Not a problem! Just wanted to keep ya up to speed here. Caperspark (talk) 11:52, 9 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry to hear that you'll miss the CAF qualifiers, but please do enjoy your vacation. I'll still be here! ;-P Funny thing was, when I saw the post-group stage fixtures, they appeared to be a tad confusing, especially the placement matches. BSWW must have typed them in wrong. Caperspark (talk) 13:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Did a Google search for them after the first Madagascar goal. There is a page where the full roster is listed. Had to resort to doing that, since beachsoccer.com doesn't have anything regarding team lists for African sides. Caperspark (talk) 01:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

All set to go for the Mundialito
Hmmm, let's see... all the rosters are in place, BSWW webcast is working, no further updates needed outside of score updates... I think we're ready to rock and roll! And what's even better is that the match times sync up with my own time zone. Caperspark (talk) 11:09, 19 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Let's not jump the gun here, shall we? ;-P


 * BTW, where've ya been? I've got to say that this week may have just been the best week of beach soccer that's ever been played anywhere, even better than the WC qualifiers or the EBSL. Caperspark (talk) 18:31, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

CONMEBOL and CAF info
Looks like we might have preliminary info on who'll be taking part in the CONMEBOL and CAF qualifiers. Leave it to the Beach Soccer France site to aid here! BTW, the CONMEBOL page has been updated and the CAF page created. Caperspark (talk) 16:36, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Mundialito de Clubes stuff
Now that the AFC qualifier is over (thank God), we can now look to the Mundialito de Clubes. All of the info on BSWW's site has already been plugged in, huge schedule and all! It'll be good for me, since Sao Paulo is only an hour ahead of where I am (UTC-3). Caperspark (talk) 17:22, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Long time, no talk! ;P Anyway, the squads page got started because some other unnamed user wanted to start one and never got around to it. They put the referring link to it on the main article page as Squads and just left it. So I figured, OK, I'll fill it in, no problem.


 * I wasn't sure if the table format I wanted to use for the rosters would work here, so I tested it in the Sandbox first. And oh yeah, it took some finding to get the players' full names, since that Iranian guy (we know who he is!) was so insistent about it previously, so I thought I'd beat him to the punch here.


 * I don't think we'll see any assigned numbers or the fourth Brazilian team until probably sometime next week or immediately before kickoff. BSWW has been notoriously slow producing any details we need to know before any tournament until the day of. If we do, we'll adjust the rosters accordingly.


 * Either way, it'll be a full day of football for me here, with the Mundialito and the domestic MLS season getting into high gear. Caperspark (talk) 13:59, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, we know who that fourth Brazilian team is now: SANTOS! Yeah, Pele's old team. Caperspark (talk) 00:43, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


 * My feeling was that if it's in their name, then that's what it should be. It's almost like referring to AC Milan without the AC. It would get a bit confusing between them and Inter Milan. Believe me, I get what they call them over in Europe during regular football tournaments, but then again, this isn't your regular football tournament! :-P


 * If you wanna undo the edits, as always, feel free to do so. No problem. BTW, I'm having trouble trying to track down the tenth man for most of the clubs. You having any luck? Caperspark (talk) 01:23, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Ya know, I thought about what you said earlier regarding the FC part, so I went back and later realized you were right, so I undid all of my edits of your edits (no sense is being made here!) except for Seattle. It's to distinguish the current club from their NASL predecessors. Caperspark (talk) 16:36, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

AFC quarterfinals
I know! I'm just as perplexed by this as you are! I ran every conceivable calculation I could think of right away, and they all say Iraq should move on, unless there was some sort of issue with the Iraqi team that we don't know about. Makes absolutely no sense at all. Caperspark (talk) 15:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Wait a minute. I think I figured out why this turned out as it did. Oman and Iraq are in the same group (Group A) and since it had the best and worst records of the eight best, there must be a rule where teams from the same group cannot face each other in the quarterfinals. That must be how Syria got in. Caperspark (talk)

AFC Wiki page changes
My suggestion would be yes, but I would leave the final decision to you. I think by now, both of us have a clear understanding of how this and other Wiki pages related to beach soccer should be edited. Caperspark (talk) 23:22, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds like a plan! :) Caperspark (talk) 02:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

AFC qualifier stuff
Wow, the group stage already turned into a non-factor, given that the top two in each group is pretty much decided right now (barring if Iraq beats Oman today). The race now is for the two "wild-card" spots. Most of the fun is pretty much gone until Wednesday. Caperspark (talk) 13:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Never thought I'd ever say this, but mucho cred to BSWW's Facebook for the AFC score updates. Caperspark (talk) 15:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that plus the attendances, match referees... the whole smash, basically. Problem is, the AFC doesn't recognize the tournament, like CONCACAF and the OFC do. Ditto with UEFA. Not sure if the CAF and CONMEBOL recognize it. Wouldn't kill BSWW to give us full match reports. Caperspark (talk) 15:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * For now, yes. At the same point, we should also ask him where he got his information about that from, because it's something we may not have access to. Caperspark (talk) 20:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

AFC online matches
It doesn't look good this time. The Oman TV feed I did see is stable, but very blurry. Al-Jazeera is a lost cause here, because I discovered that the matches are being shown on their Al-Jazeera Sports +10 channel, which isn't available online. Is it available in the UK? Outside of that, we're not going to see any of the matches, and that sucks. And, it looks like it might get worse. Al-Jazeera stops it coverage right after the groups stage ends, so unless Oman TV is covering the entire tournament, we're SOL. Caperspark (talk) 22:11, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I checked one of those 'illegal' streams available for Oman TV (won't put it here - might get booted if I do) and it looked very blurry, almost as if the feed was either second or third-pass. It held up OK, but I had a helluva time trying to read anything on it, including what little English there was! Might be better than nothing, I guess. Caperspark (talk) 22:39, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * If Oman TV is covering the tournament, they're not showing it on their station. Guess it's not really that much of a shock when it's something controlled by the Minister of Information (does that title sound familiar? :) ). Caperspark (talk) 13:26, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

AFC qualifier online streaming
It looks like BSWW will have online streaming of the AFC qualifier available at beachsoccer.com. I checked to see if this was the case and got the web player outline. Thought I'd see the message saying the event didn't exist, but we should be OK here. Caperspark (talk) 06:08, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * It looks like Oman TV and al-Jazeera will have coverage of the AFC qualifier. You must have been lucky, finding out before I did! ;-P It's OK, I'll still watch the rest of it somehow. Always do! Caperspark (talk) 14:45, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Will do. I'm looking into it now, now that I know what to look for. Might be one of these 'illegal' streams, but it might be all that we have for this. Caperspark (talk) 15:57, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmmmm.... that definitely makes it harder to find a good stream to watch the matches. If I do find one, you may have to delete the post immediately - it might be one of those 'illegal' streams. I don't like it, but there it is. Caperspark (talk) 18:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

CONMEBOL qualifier
Got news regarding the CONMEBOL qualifier. It'll be held from May 7 - 14 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. It was confirmed on Beach Soccer Brasil's calendar. I've already made the necessary changes noting this, plus the referring link. Caperspark (talk) 20:51, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

AFC qualifier draw
Have you heard anything about the draw for the AFC qualifier? It's been over for seven and a half hours now and not a peep about it so far. Strange. It's not even on any of the Oman news sites. Caperspark (talk) 15:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)


 * No need to answer that question. Found it (bloody well took long enough!). A user with the name Uishaki provided info on how the draw turned out. Found the schedule at BSWW, which has now been plugged into the page. We're good to go here! Caperspark (talk) 17:50, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

OFC online
OK. I'm just making sure you didn't think I was having all the fun here! :-P Caperspark (talk) 23:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Wow, what a match! First period stunk, but it was a barnburner the rest of the way, just what you want to see in beach soccer. Caperspark (talk) 23:38, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Mundialito de Clubes
I've set up a new Wiki page for the inaugural Mundialito de Clubes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Mundialito_de_Clubes). Not much there except what was released today at BSWW. Caperspark (talk) 23:12, 17 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Just added more info to the Mundialito page, including which teams are in it and a link to the draft results. Caperspark (talk) 19:20, 21 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, no, the big names won't be there (dammit!). If you view the Wiki page that I created on it, it will show that only Beach Soccer players could be drafted, like Frank, Madjer, and so forth. I was surprised that some of football's major powers are fielding teams in this, including a team from my region (Seattle Sounders FC). No word on how the teams will be grouped as of yet, but I suspect we'll find out soon enough. Caperspark (talk) 02:05, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

AFC qualifying
Have you been able to find any further details on the AFC qualifying for the 2011 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup? I've been searching the Net for some time now and can't find anything, even on the AFC web site, where they don't even have it listed in their calendar. Can't believe they'd leave it this late when qualifying is less than two weeks away. Caperspark (talk) 14:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Dude, got great news! You know that page you said you found on the AFC qualifying teams, but couldn't remember? I think I found it. I used the info in it to update the AFC qualifying page. Feel free to clean up anything if it needs it. Caperspark (talk) 20:09, 19 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Apparently, it's not going to be 15 teams as was earlier reported. It's down to 11 teams now, according to BSWW, and the draw is also taking place tomorrow. Changes have already been made to the Wiki page, with references. Caperspark (talk) 14:46, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

OFC qualifying
BTW, I have found some news regarding the OFC qualifying for the FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup. I was just on the OFC website and they have their qualifying tournament scheduled for February 22-26, 2011 (the Wiki page for it has been updated to reflect this). Nothing yet for CONMEBOL, although I suspect it might be sometime next month. Caperspark (talk) 13:49, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Got lucky, really. I figured the schedule for it had to be out by now. What I didn't expect to find was news about the new venue. Caperspark (talk) 22:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Indeed. What you might not have caught was the fact that because of the cyclone, it forced Vanuatu to withdraw from the tournament (http://www.oceaniafootball.com/ofc/News/ViewArticle/tabid/125/Article/02b4f367-bc66-41d0-9acd-6eb15e1187eb/language/en-US/Default.aspx), making it a three-team field. Not to worry, as I've already made all the necessary changes, including to the schedule. Caperspark (talk) 01:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


 * You watching the macth here at http://www.livestream.com/ofctv/, too? Caperspark (talk) 23:26, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

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Yeah, I know. Both semifinal matches going to PKs. As a footie fan, you have to love that. It showed that all four semifinalists wanted the World Cup spots badly.

Speaking of the World Cup, I've also been watching another World Cup of another sport: darts. Can't believe England (with Phil Taylor and James Wade) went out as quick as they did to Spain. Unless a miracle happens, there's no stopping Raymond van Barneveld and Co Stompe of Holland. Caperspark (talk) 13:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

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There might be a bit of a quandary with the own goal in the CAN-JAM match. I thought it was a straight own goal, but then I saw the match recap on the CONCACAF site and they said that it wasn't. Someone's lying here! Caperspark (talk) 13:47, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Until we see the official match report at the CONCACAF site, then yeah, let's leave it. Plus, the goal totals at CONCACAF's site are off. They actually counted the PK goals! Caperspark (talk) 14:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem
Nah, no problem at all. Don't worry about it.

Anyway, it's all set to go. It'll be a nice break from the NHL season for that weekend. Hope my country's team (Canada) has a good showing. Caperspark (talk) 20:12, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

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Just had to do it, huh? ;-P

In any event, I'll keep tabs on how the draw for the CONCACAF tourney goes down, then they'll be plugged into the page and then we'll be all set. Caperspark (talk) 21:48, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

2010 Beach Soccer Worldwide Tour
I just want to let you know that I have set up an article for the 2010 Beach Soccer Worldwide Tour this week. It's scheduled to happen in Sunderland this weekend. It'll be interesting to see how the temporary beach stadium inside the Stadium of Light looks. Caperspark (talk) 14:35, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

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I saw you had User talk:Dr. Blofeld to make a Tahiti location map for you. I perhaps can do this better than Blofeld (he and I have worked on a number of articles together and he knows my good faith, just it might be more up my tree than his). I can do this for you&emdash; it has been a while since I have done one and they are a bit trial-and-error, I think there are options in. Do you want the island of Moorea to be kinda a cut-out/insert in one corner of the map? That would distort the lat/long stuff though, but in practice it might work best.

I am sure between me you and old Blofeld we can get what you want. Just offering to help if need be. These are fiddly but not particularly difficult, just that the coordinates never seem to be exactly where you think they should be, even if you have the lat and long for them (from an atlas, say) so that one ends up hand-crafting i.e. bodging them a bit so they look right.

File:Karta FP Societe isl.PNG which is used on the Tahiti and Moorea pages is not very good quality and perhaps it would be best to make that into an SVG image, (or start from scratch from a good atlas) then go from there? That is not, itself, a location map but could be made one easily, but it is a bit rough and I would probably start from scratch. , as you say, uses File:Location map Tahiti.png, which is more of a bird's eye view (aerial or satellite pictures) than a stylised "political" map. I think the best would be to create an SVG image from scratch.

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I wouldn't be able to do the lines provincially. You might want to ask User:NordNordWest on his German wiki talk page if he can do one for you. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:02, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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Help for Complete of Euro Beach Soccer League
* i collect all of results in : Talk:Euro Beach Soccer League
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 * all of results exist in : http://theroonba.com/beach09.htm
 * Euro Beach Soccer League
 * 1999 Euro Beach Soccer League
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 * 2002 Euro Beach Soccer League
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 * please help and create page, i can help you to complete them, after complete all of them , i creat overall ranking and complete all results history. thanks Callofworld (talk) 13:42, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

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hi. thanks for your comment, yes i know, after 2015 WP have one point and before was 2 points, but all of table create by present rules, like to football, about 1990 all of win have 2 point, but all of overall table in football have 3 point for wins before 1990. see it : All-time table of the FIFA World Cup, thanks. also if you complete euro beach soccer league i create overall table for it. now, i am work on overall table of euro beach soccer cup. thank you so much. nice to meet you.Callofworld (talk) 05:14, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

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i was collect all of incomplete Beach soccer tournaments results in talk page :
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Futsal & beach soccer
Hi, thanks for your response. I was thinking the exact same principle in applying notability to both forms of football. I suggest we propose the same basic qualifying criteria used for regular football. That we a least allow notability for any player who has appeared in a senior international match as defined by FIFA for beach soccer or futsal. After all FIFA is a major world sanctioning body. I believe we also have to sell or convince wiki users at NSPORTS the notability of both sports. I believe one good example would be marketing statistical facts or the fact that the FIFA World Fustal Cup (not to sure if FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup) receives coverage from the Worlds major sport broadcasters. If you want we can both workout a proposal for the two different forms of football. To answer your second question yes I do have an interest in indoor football mostly the National Professional Soccer League (1984–2001), but I mostly cover Canadian lower tier leagues due to the fact that it is horribly neglected. The fact I was writing player articles for the NPSL, and the football bureaucrats deleted them on the basis that I couldn't prove it was "fully" professional. Whatever that means in the real world your either professional, semi-pro, or amateur regardless of what your yearly football income is. If all players are paid in the league in it is in fact professional. Which promoted me to finally address this issue. Shotgun pete (talk) 14:57, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi TurboGuy just letting you know that I wrote a proposal for notability for futsal players at WP:Notability (sports) talk page. I haven't submitted one for beach soccer yet. Just letting you know if you were interested in participating. Thanks Shotgun pete (talk) 10:29, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

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Well, including the futsal and beach soccer competitions into the templates in the way you suggest is not a bad idea, since they are CONMEBOL competitions and because they involve clubs. However, I would like to suggest that any other regional versions of those competitions (for example, this one) be also included into their confederation's template, for the sake of consistency. CodeMars04 (talk) 23:58, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
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