User talk:Turnstep/Oct 2005

Friendly question
Hi Turnstep :-). What is the exact problem you have again with the Illyria page, I'm having trouble understanding. (With the exception of the spellcheck stuff, that was just faulty typing on my part). Thanks! UltimateBuffyfan (Chris)
 * I'll answer on the Talk:Illyria page when I get a chance. Turnstep 22:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Antonio Negri and Johann Hari
I see you removed a link to Johann Hari's interview with Antonio Negri, describing it as 'link spam'. Why? It's a bloody awful article, to be sure, but it is genuinely an interview with Negri, so I don't see that it can be classified as spam. I'm minded to add it back in.

- VoluntarySlave 07:33, 26 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Some anonymous user (could be M. Hari, could not be) linked about 30 articles at once in various pages, of which Antonio Negri was one. They added the links in to the middle of lists (hoping to remain undetected) and varied the text, sometimes calling Johann Hari a "liberal journalist", sometimes a "conservative journalist", sometimes a "gay journalist", etc. depending on the context of the page. They always made sure the link somehow used the name "Johann Hari" instead of just the name of the article. All very suspicious. Feel free to add it back in if you feel it meets the criteria of Wikipedia and adds something to the page (does a "bloody awful" article do so? *grin*). I'm not opposed to linking to the articles, per se, but not in the inappropriate manner in which it was done. I do feel that actual interviews are probably valuable enough to generally include, but mere essay speculation (e.g. the "Agatha Christie was a conservative") is not.


 * - Turnstep 10:47, 26 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah, right, thanks for explaining. Actually, rumour has it that Hari has a history of, eg, reviewing his own books on Amazon, so I wouldn't put it past him to do something similar here.


 * VoluntarySlave 18:29, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

141.153.175.20
Please don't call all edits you disagree with vandalism. Whereas the edit to your user page was clear vandalism, the edits to Spades were perhaps inappropriate, but definitely not vandalism. See Dispute Resolution for handling such matters. --fvw *  00:38, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Knight Rider Question
I know from the season one episode DVD collection (cause I'm a Knight Rider dork and I bought it) that David Hasslehoff's fiancee starred with him during the episode where Michael meets his former fiancee when he was Michael Long. I didn't think he was married to her yet, or if she went off to marry the actor Michael Knight in real life. I suggest maybe looking her career up on the IMDB, they may have some trivia on it. Cyberia23 22:41, 30 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks - turns out all involved have wiki pages, so I linked to them. Pretty weird coincidence! Turnstep 22:56, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

As of
On Agatha Christie, you undid my redirect. I was doing all those redirects on a same road as you, but then I was stopped and told that they are useful in seeing which information needs to be updated (e.g. something might link to As of 2003, and the person looking at the 'What links here' for As of 2003 would notice that link, go to the page and update the information). I then reverted all my 'naughty' redirects. Just to let you know and ask, 'Would you let me revert your revert?'. It's... Thelb4! 19:49, 2 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Not exactly sure I follow all that. I've always been under the impression that redirects should be eliminated whenever possible by linking to the thing the redirects targets. The one exception might be for a page that someday may become distinct from the target page, but I don't think this qualifies. At any rate, it's no big deal to me, so if someone feels strongly about it, go ahead and revert it to as of 2005, I won't raise a fuss not revert it. Turnstep 22:13, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

MySQL
Thanks for agreeing with the two main branches for MySQL. I really think the Latest Release title easily misses the point of multiple software branches which is why I previously suggested that it be expanded to Recent Version(s) or even Latest Release(s). We'll watch for version 5.x when it is actually stable, strangely enough only some releases now, not all, are considered "beta" in the download section unless it's specific to the download and that the API itself is still not stable. Good job with the linkspam :) Quadra23 02:59, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
for cleaning up after User:172.213.172.246. --R.Koot 10:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)


 * No problem. Looks like they may be back: keep an eye on 82.111.18.83 who has so far only done one page Linux but with the same linkspam. Turnstep 13:01, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Venice
Why are you more offended about Venice being rerouted to New Orleans than Seoul being rerouted to Kim Il-Sung City, or Kim Jong-il being rerouted to Emperor Palpatine? --Shultz 13:08, 17 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm not, but thanks for the heads up, I'll start monitoring those pages for vandalism as well. :) Turnstep 13:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Monitoring of users themselves
Thanks for editing my entry about JED3's blog. However, I can't help but point out that it's evidence of you watching me, the user, myself.

First of all, how does someone watch someone else?

Second, are you female? Did you become interested in me to the point that you started watching me?

I wonder if watching a user is like following someone home every day, or having a crush on them. Behaviorally mature Christian girls would work wonders for me. =) --Shultz 14:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Book of Lists
Hello. I see nothing wrong with the Wikipedia reference in Book of Lists, as it is an accurate statement that the Book of Lists was a precursor to the notable phenomenon of countless lists on Wikipedia. Are you set against this reference? Cheers! BD2412 talk 23:55, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * We're not supposed to do that in Wikipedia: see Avoid self-references. While it's still possible to mention Wikipedia in an article, I think in this circumstance it would be too much of a self-reference. Turnstep 00:06, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you very much for your support :). I look forward to working with you in the near future. -- a.n.o.n.y.m  t 00:51, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Restoring AfD notice

 * "pages with AfD messages must not have them removed until issue is settled"

Perhaps we disagree on what the "issue" is. There is plenty of precedent for removing AfD notices when redirects are being turned into worthless articles (whether they're on-topic or not). I really don't see any point in debating the redirect, and as I said, there's no reason the discussion can't happen on the talk page for the dozens. Anyway, I don't have a problem with the AfD process continuing, I just wanted to make sure you understood my motivations. &mdash; HorsePunchKid &rarr; &#x9F9C;  22:44, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, no problem, thanks for explaining. Feel free to redirect it and move the discussion to the dozens page if you want. I'm okay either way. Just want to give the page a fighting chance to make it on its own. Turnstep 22:58, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

The The Blah blah dangerous guild
Hi Turnstep! Glad to see you there. We really need you there! Cheers -- Svest 02:44, 30 October 2005 (UTC) Wiki me up&#153;