User talk:Turrican

Name Calling
Hows about a truce? I think you have gotten the point by now that I give as well as I get. TDC 17:52, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)

Allright. Lets just agree to stick to the topic and provide as much sources as possible for all statements.

Turrican

That would be a really quick way to get yourself banned. V V 11:49, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

See WP:POINT. I will report your vandalism if it continues. I am not intimidated by you and will not negotiate with these tactics. V V 00:26, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

No one "owns" any articles here. And I am not negotiating, period. V V 00:56, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Kissinger
Stop vandalizing Henry Kissinger. Mackensen 14:28, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I've noticed what's going on between you and VV and it's not acceptable for either of you to be acting this way. I don't want to have to protect every page you people touch. Mackensen 19:17, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I've no idea what your most recent comment on my talk page refers to, perhaps you meant to send it VV's way? Mackensen 01:02, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

TDC
I read that you had the pleasure with the guy who tells others to "suck their own dick". As the request for comments does not seem to lead anywhere, the next step for conflict resolution seems to be a request for mediation if you have any specific problem you can point out. If it fails you may want to ask for arbitration. The same happens with TDC's friend VeriVerily at the moment. Be aware of the fact that in order to file a credible complaint it helps to have complied with the rules yourself. Get-back-world-respect 23:27, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Vandalism
Regardless of how frustrated you are by VeryVerily, obscenities and vandalism are not an appropriate way to handle your dispute. Please behave more civily in the future. Snowspinner 03:34, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

Do you want to be banned?
Do you realize just how stupid this was ,? I suggest you aplogize to VV ASAP, or someone will notice this and ban you from Wikipedia permanently.

Just some fair warning. TDC 17:32, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

I have started an arbitration request. Very Verily 22:13, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Turrican and VeryVerily
Since going quickly to arbitration seems to be the "in" thing to do, and has been condoned by the two users who accepted CK's complaint, I will register a request for immediate banning here.

Turrican has stated on my talk page    and on Mackensen's  that he intends to be and has been carrying out a campaign of reverting my edits without prejudice. Since this has nothing to do with content issues - some are just housekeeping edits (the most absurd is Kim Jong-Il) - I believe this constitutes vandalism.

If you view his talk page, you will see I gave him repeated warnings, including quoting specific policies. Mackensen and GBWR also warned him. I thought he had maybe stopped, and so I was willing to drop the matter, but he has recently resumed.

He has also engaged in personal attacks on me, for instance recently calling me a "disgusting Nazi" (Talk:Henry Kissinger).

To stave off would-be counters:

Re his complaints that I am "destroying his edits", this referred so far as I know to two (2) edits, one adding a dispute notice on a page after he added a questionable section (History of Italy), the other a revert of what I perceived as highly POV additions to an article, where I instead later resorted to a notice (History of Modern Greece). Now he seems peeved that I removed an absurd claim that Kissinger killed 600,000 Cambodian civilians from the introductory paragraph of Henry Kissinger.

My statement that "I am not negotiating" on User talk:Turrican is almost certain to be misinterpreted by someone, so I will clarify now. I am not agreeing to any kind of "trade" in exchange for him not reverting my edits arbitrarily. To do so is "negotiating with terrorists", allowing the threat of vandalism to be used as leverage.

To reiterate, request banning for vandalism and personal attacks. I do not think mediation is needed for someone who is so flagrantly violating Wikipedia rules.

V V 00:10, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Update: He has since vandalized my user page twice three times. V V 03:01, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)  (Editing anonymously also.) V V  05:55, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The vandalism of my user page continues (Fred Bauder provides a diff link below), as does the vandalism of near every article I touch, including reverting simple mechanical fixes. I have notified Turrican on his talk page now, for what it matters. Very Verily 22:15, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comments and votes by arbitrators (0/1/0/0)

 * 1) Reject, no notice of arbitration on User talk:Turrican. Fred Bauder 14:47, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC) But see  Fred Bauder 14:56, Oct 6, 2004 (UTC)

A question
It is likely unless you speak up that your account will be banned from all editing other than that associated with arbitration. If you will speak to us and promise to not engage in personal attacks and wholescale removal of material we might come to a different conclusion. In other words, we might cut you some slack because you are new here, but you need to communicate with us about what we would expect. Fred Bauder 14:27, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

Arbitration committee case closure
The arbitration committee has officially closed Requests for arbitration/Turrican and VeryVerily. &rarr;Raul654 17:29, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)

Appeal accepted
Requests for arbitration/Appeal of VeryVerily has been accepted. Please place evidence at Requests for arbitration/Appeal of VeryVerily/Evidence. Proposals and comments may be placed at Requests for arbitration/Appeal of VeryVerily/Evidence. Fred Bauder 02:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Ruy Lopez case notification
The Requests for arbitration/Ruy Lopez has been merged into the Requests for arbitration/Appeal of VeryVerily case Raul654 17:53, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Appeal of VeryVerily
This arbitration case has closed. The one-revert per page per day remedy from Requests for arbitration/Gzornenplatz, Kevin Baas, Shorne, VeryVerily, and its associated enforcement, are vacated with respect to VeryVerily. However, the other still applicable remedy, namely that pertaining to discussion of reverts, and its associated enforcement, remain in force. Ruy Lopez is banned from using sockpuppets, and is placed on probation. VeryVerily may appeal to have the remaining remedy lifted in four months. The remedies will be enforced by block. For further details, please see the arbitration case. On behalf of the arbitration committee, Johnleemk | Talk 15:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)