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Copyright problem: Eden White
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Speedy deletion of 2P START!
A tag has been placed on 2P START! requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for web content.

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 * See the notability for websites. They have to be reliable sources, although i'm sure 2 would do it. The problem is it isn't a particularly notable webcomic from the X thousand out there (although I just read through the archive and will be adding it to my daily read-list, it is great). Ironho<b style="color:#696969">ld</b><b style="color:#000">s</b> 15:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Gossip-based multicast protocols
You can't assume that I write redirects as a joke. I'm not impressed with what wikipedia hosts under computerized protocols based upon gossip. Internet Relay Chat is a multi-cast protocol founded on wide-spread internet structure. It also hosts gossip, but it does so very reliably. So, tentatively, I will stand by my position and redirect "gossip-based multicast protocols" to IRC. It's not a joke. The alternative article on gossip protocol is. BrewJay (talk) 11:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

swearing in UK fire service discussion page
You will do well to remember minors read wikipedia - please do not swear in future or you will be reported. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.0.61 (talk) 23:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but I think you have the wrong user. I have never even heard of that page before, let alone edited it and swore on it...

Tustin2121 talk 21:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Public domain
The panthers article was a mess. It still needs work but at least it is better.

As far as Pittsburgh and Pitt PD images, with careful research, some of the publications at Pitt Digital Library and Documenting Pitt fall into the public domain. However, they are not PD if the images or text are not older than 120 years, it is not 70 years past the verified author's death, if they were not previously published prior to 1978 without a copyright notice, or if they were not published prior to 1964 with a copyright notice AND that copyright was not renewed. For the later, you have to search the copyright office records to make sure that copyrights were not renewed (see ). Everything after 1977 is considered under copyright even if it doesn't carry a notice.

Regarding the history of Pitt, both the Pittsburgh Academy charter of 1787 sought by Hugh Henry Brackenridge, as well as the charter reforming the school in 1819 into the Western University of Pennsylvania were granted by the PA state legislature with the expectations (by both the legislature and by those seeking the charter) that an institution was being created in the western end of the state that was equivalent to that in the eastern version, that is the Philadelphia Academy which evolved into the University of Pennsylvania. This is exactly the reason the name "Western University of Pennsylvania" was chosen, because it was intended to be a sister institution set up and endowed by the Commonwealth. Back then there were no public schools, and both were intended to be private nonsectarian centers of higher education for the populations on the polar ends of the state. Unfortunately for Pitt, the endowment in the form of a grant of land from the state got all tied up in the politics of the day and it struggled financially for many years. It is believed that one of the impetuses for the name change came 73 years later during the 1892 Columbian Exposition in Chicago where the W.U.P., Pennsylvania State College, and Penn all had tables next to each other, causing confusion between W.U.P. and Penn. Name confusion was cited as one reason for the name change in 1908, but another reason was because the university was in the process of relocating from Allegheny City (now the North Side) to Oakland which was back in the city of Pittsburgh where the school originated as the Pittsburgh Academy downtown. Other reasons cited were because the school was also nicknamed "Wup" (pronounced Whup) and its sports teams were often referred to as the "Wups" as in "Lets go Wups!" Some administrators and trustees (I believe particularly the Scaifes) considered this undignified and thus that was put forward as another reason for the change. The branding issue caused by the confusion of W.U.P. being a part of, or a branch of, the University of Pennsylvania may have been one of the bigger reasons for the name change, but there is nothing to indicate it was because the W.U.P. "hated being associated" with them.

If you have any questions about, or would like to discuss Pitt or Pitt history, feel free to drop me a note. Also, if you are so interested, feel free to join the Pitt wikiproject. CrazyPaco (talk) 00:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, what is the PittHistory strip? I'm not familiar.  CrazyPaco (talk) 06:10, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That is cool. I live in San Francisco so I don't have access to anything but the on-line version of The Pitt News and I've never seen it on there. There's a ton of interesting history about Pitt that the vast majority of people are completely oblivious too, even those who have been at Pitt for years. I've spent a lot of time researching things about the school and its buildings for the wikipedia articles here. I've written the bulk of a good many of the Pitt articles, and honestly, it was not only because I was personally interested in the history, but I thought there should be a much greater appreciation for Pitt's rich history among students and alumni. Pitt's history doesn't have to take a back seat to anyones', and it is not a typical linear story of growth, the institution has had a ton of peaks and valleys. It's ability to survive multiple fires and financial crisis, and still maintain its integrity and mission in liberal arts education has been impressive. Not only that, as in-cohesive and varied as its campus may be, few schools have the such a historic and impressive collection of buildings (especially inside and out) that make up their campus. I know I didn't really have an appropriate appreciation for them until I graduated and started seeing a lot of other campuses. Therefore, I really really appreciate your efforts. Besides the humor aspect, I think it is awesome from a perspective of enhancing the school's sense of itself.


 * The research I've done for Wikipedia it mostly from the internet (and thus the citations are embedded in the articles to double check the sources) as I haven't lived in the 'burgh for some time and don't have access to the physical libraries, so there is some missing information (like the architects of some of the buildings). The thing I may be proudest of is digging up an old conference championship for the basketball team that had been forgotten by the athletic department. However, I think you'll find that Wikipedia contains the best single collection of information gathered together in one location on Pitt's buildings and there are a ton of hidden gems in the articles (things that surprised me when I uncovered them). If you start at the article on the Log Cabin you can move sequentially through the buildings by succession boxes at the bottom of the article in order of the age of the buildings. Hopefully, they help give you ideas going forward.


 * Now that I know what project are engaged in, I would say that a fantastic source of on-line info is the digitized Owl yearbooks, as well as the Courant (which was sort of a predecessor to The Pitt News) at the Documenting Pitt website. There are some great lost photos in those. If there are any copyright issues, because they are from Pitt's library, I'm sure that they won't have any more issue for TPN than the Carnegie Library would, and probably would just like a source acknowledgement. Another great resource is the Google newspaper archive that has digitized a good chunk of the Pittsburgh-Post Gazette, although that might have more copyright issues.


 * Unsolicited, I'll throw some things out there: there is some amazing history at the Allegheny Observatory and there is actually a documentary in production about it. That ties into perhaps the most ignored artifact at Pitt, Langley Aerodrome #6 hanging in Posvar Hall. It is one of only two Langley Aerodromes left in the world. Professor Langley, of Langley Air Force Base and Langley, Virginia fame, was a huge name in his day, and a professor at Pitt where he initiated, among other projects, his pioneering flight research. He's is Pitt's Jonas Salk of the late 19th Century. People walk by the Aerodrome every day, and go to class in Langley Hall, and have no idea about it or the man. CrazyPaco (talk) 20:47, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

WC: O&H and spawns
Per WP:V, you needs to provide a citation about spawns in WC: O&H, otherwise that item will be removed. --Philcha (talk) 04:52, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no sources on that. I only have the Spawn installation page's list to go on, and I was simply trying to de-orphan said page. You may remove it if you wish. Tustin2121 talk 07:21, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd expect at least one of the existing sources on multiplay to cover this for WC: O&H. If you then copy this and a similar source from WC 2 in to Spawn installation, that would then have WP:V for both the general principles for spawning and the list items for WC: O&H and WC 2 - and Notability for the whole article. --Philcha (talk) 07:39, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You are right. There was a small mention of multiplyer without buying another copy in source 12. I'm sure it will be mentioned somewhere in the manual for the game as well, but given that I don't have the game or its manual, I cannot be sure. Thank you. Tustin2121 talk 07:48, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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