User talk:Tverbeek

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 * Archive 1 (to 31 December 2005):

Nudity inaccuracies
Yeah, I meant to move that paragraph to the talk page. It's there now, with the explanation.--Cuchullain 23:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Re:Clean-up?
I added a clean-up stub on the Kendall College of Art and Design article, because it doesn't have half as much information as most other college pages on Wikipedia. Also, the Kendall article doesn't look as professional looking as most other college articles on Wikipedia. Browse around on many college/university pages on Wikipedia, and you'll see what I mean. --80-MAN 01:22, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Larry Hama
You seem much more knowledgable than I am in all ways Wiki, so I wonder if you could tell me 1) if it's it's appopriate to, and 2) how to go about notifying fellow Comics Projects members that an item is up for vote on the Deletion page? It's

[], and you can read my reasons there. Thanks for any info! - Tenebrae 14:38, 23 January 2006 (UTC)


 * RE: "the fact that he served during the Vietnam War (even if not stationed in SE Asia) is arguably relevant, given that he later edited The 'Nam." Granted. But for somone who doesn't know he wrote The 'Nam (which would be most people, even many knowledgable comics fans), it seems gratuitous. So given what you said, yep, a reference to his writing The 'Nam would be good and relevant to add there, then.


 * Is there a tag similar to that can be added in place of original research? Is there any way to request a sysop/admin to create such a tag, if one doesn's already exist?  Like the  tag, that would be a great and practical help. Thanks, as always, for your experienced and help. - Tenebrae 02:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, I see he edited "The 'Nam". I'll make note. Thanks - Tenebrae 03:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Hama tag change?
Well, since you and I have been contributing most of the edits, I'd like to take up one more bit of your time to ask 1) whether you think it might be appropriate to change the template from "deletion proposed" to "this article needs cleanup" or "needs to be written in encyc. language" or somesuch, and 2) is that something an editor such as you or I can do, or is it protocol to let an admin/sysop do it?

And say, thanks again for all your help every now and then over the past couple months in navigating the shoals of Wikipedia. The Guidelines are policy pages alone are like Russian novels! (So maybe I should say Das vadanya, however the heck that's spelled!) - Tenebrae 04:22, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the procedural info! All the best - Tenebrae 14:12, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Direct market
I'm not sure if I agree about 'direct market' being a proper noun. Isn't the direct market really just a specific manner of distributing comic books? By your logic wouldn't we also capitalize newsstand distribution system? I won't make any further changes along these lines, but I think we should invite input from other users. (I'll copy our correspondense to the talk page). ike9898 21:41, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Direct Market
I apologise if I seem to have bad faith on the term. (1) References are good (required?) on any article, so I asked for them. (2) Even as the article defined it, the term identifies a business management concept, like "suggested retail price", so I figure it belongs more to business management-related topics than to comics-related topics. (3) I seriously doubt that the comics distribution industry is unique amongst the consumer publication distribution industry. Nevertheless, I never insist, so go ahead with what you see fit. Thank you for your note. --Perfecto 00:43, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the DM & Phil Seuling entries!
It is so gratifying to see the late, lamented Phil start to get his due, here in this relatively mainstream information source.

And it's always personally very cool to see articles branch off from one's own entries. Thanks for making my day (and it's only 5:48 a.m., my time)! - Tenebrae 10:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Enlist your help?
User:GodzillaWax, who treated CaptainDisdain and others, well, disdainfully at [|Daredevil History Page], is now doing the same to me.

You can get the gist of it at [|Admin noticeboard]

If his kind of behavior is something you'd like to see stop, please — please — post a supportive comment on the "GodzillaWax_attack" or the "GodzillaWax_still_at_it" section of Admin noticeboard page that links above.

Anything you can do, I think it would help us all. Thanks very much even for just reading this. — Tenebrae 00:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I did read those things
And I believed I was following the directions. Gee, you don't have to take such a nasty tone with me. I'm a human being. I was following complicated, lengthy directions, spread over dozens of pages, as best I could. As for Hama, I don't believe I asked you to step in and "waste [your] time", so I don't think it's fair to yell at me for that. And as for GodzillaWax, whose bad behavior goes back months, I apologize for asking you to support me in not having him insult fellow Wikipedians and write fannish, unencyclopedic entries that make Wikipedia look bad.

You've been the kind of diligent and responsible Wikipedian I admire and strive to be. I apologize if my compliments to you and my respecting you enough to look for you for guidance and to ask for your help bothered you so much that you would snap at a person that way. I won't bother you again. -- Tenebrae 16:45, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Please stop
I said I wouldn't bother you anymore. I apologized for bothering you at all. Yet after I did so, you came back and wrote something on my Talk page calling me stupid, saying I need to be talked to in words of one syllable, etc. What kind of person are you that would go out of your way to insult someone who has apologized and said he wouldn't bother you anymore? Just for the record, I'm a cum laude graduate of a major American university, I work as an editor at a national magazine, I've published books, and I spent years writing for Marvel, DC, and other companies. I think the quality of my research and writing in the nearly 50 comics-professional bios I've written speak for themselves. So, no, I don't believe I'm stupid and I'm astonished at the hateful, schoolyard level of discourse I find throughout Wikipedia. You seem to need to insult others to bolster your own self-esteem. Please stop doing it to me, and please stop posting on my Talk page. - Tenebrae 00:24, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

You Pompous, Ignorant Ass
You insult me ... then use profanity to tell me that you don't "give a damn" about evidence that indicates your insult isn't based on anyting factual!

I don't know why you think you have the right to mouth off to people in ways you'd never dare say to their faces. It's easy to sit back and be the Simpsons' Comic Book Guy, acting like Wikipedia's Pope of Pop Culture, when you're thousands of miles away from the people you insult. I've tried to look for the good in you. I've tried to give you the benefit of doubt. But you're a bitter, venom-spewing pomposity who acts like a big shot on Wikipedia because you can't in real life. Just stay the fuck away from my Talk page. And please: Report me to the Admins, because I'd love them to see the incivility you displayed to someone who apologized to you when you indicated I'd made a mistake. Ooooh, a mistake, heaven help me! Grand Comic Book Lord VerGeek is going to come spit on my Talk Page!

Why don't you bother people like User:GodzillaWax, who break all sorts of Wikipedia rules in their "contributions"? Why not bother people who write "Recently" and "Currently" in their entries? Why not bother people who can't be bothered to cite and link to their sources? Seems to me that last item is way more important to Wikipedia's credibility that someone who points out a garbage entry the wrong way once.

I apologized when you felt you were inconvenienced. Why couldn't you let it go at that? Serious: Please ask yourself, "He apologized. Why do I feel compelled to go back and give him shit?" NOBODY ASKED YOU TO. You just had to come back and go "nyah-nyah-you-need-one-syllable-words". Let's ask the Admins about that if you want to. But if you come back to my Talk page, when I've specifically asked you not to, that's harrassment. - Tenebrae 01:39, 27 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Hey Tenebrae, leave me out of your hissy fits. GodzillaWax 16:39, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I can't think of a subhead
OK. Look. We clearly both lost our tempers. I don't have a dispute with you; heck, I even told you a couple posts ago that I'd felt respect for you as a veteran Wikipedian. I apologized for inadvertantly bothering you, and I simply asked to be left alone and promised to leave you alone, so I don't know what there is to mediate.

But ... you seem man enough to reach out in a genuine communal gesture, so ... I can suggest this:

If you'll apologize for the sarcastic implications that I'm stupid and need monosyllabic verbalization, and that this was your own violation of No Personal Attacks ("Negative personal comments and 'I'm better than you' attacks...."), then I will gladly and sincerely apologize, with equal specificity, for my own words, and tell you that as far as I'm concerened we can erase all our previous comments from our Talk pages and that I will not consider that a breach of etiquette, but rather a clean slate. In any event, I promise not to contact you or bother you ever again. Or if you don't like the aforementioned, please tell me in a reasonable tone what you'd prefer. Does this sound fair? -- Tenebrae 04:33, 27 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm mostly staying away from Wikipedia for a while... just too damn tired of this kind of nonsense. - Tverbeek

Disambiguation
Hi Todd, I'm cleaning up Disambiguation links for "Medium" and was wondering if you would be so kind as to delink your link to "medium (bearer)" so it stops showing up in the disambig database. Thanks! - Dreadlocke 14:37, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

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