User talk:TwoWorlds

I never replied to your extended quotations in your discussion on April 21st. which I thought very helpful. Where I would disagree - and it may be useful to explore this - is in the use of the word penal. I think the point is well made in your quotations that the Fathers did not explore the issues systematically as they had in the case of the Trinity. I think that it is highly likely that the use of punishment language in Calvin and the Fathers conceals the fact that they are writing about different things, not least because the context of law changes. That's the trouble: the concept changes in the light of the world in which it is set. Roger Arguile 08:45, 15 May 2007 (UTC)