User talk:Twofingered Typist/Archives/2020/June

GOCE June newsletter
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 15:47, 5 June 2020 (UTC).

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

A kind request
Hey, hope you are doing well. I was hoping that you could copyedit What's a Nice Girl Like You Doing in a Place Like This?. It is a short article about the first film by Martin Scorsese. I would highly appreciate if you did. CAPTAIN MEDUSA  talk  12:07, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I notice the article was recently reviewed by a GOCE member. Is there something in particular about the copy edit you are concerned about? We have a long backlog of requests at the Guild page I am helping to clear up at present. Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * per this, it needs grammar and repetition copyedit.  CAPTAIN MEDUSA   talk  12:17, 26 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm quite sure the version of the article I went through after LegesRomanorum's copy edit contained no grammar mistakes. This version of the article has changed substantially from the earlier one and should have been treated as a new request, but I have gone through it and copy edited it anyway. Regards Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:53, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

 * Thank you! I appreciate it. Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:33, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

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FYI --Brogo13 (talk) 16:57, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Quotation punctuation
Hi Twofingered Typist, many thanks for your copy edits of Agatha Christie. I have a question about quotation punctuation as another editor has recently moved numerous full-stops from outside quotations to inside (see this diff). I would appreciate your thoughts on whether these edits are in line with MOS:INOROUT, the relevant parts of which would seem to be:
 * For the most part, this means treating periods and commas in the same way as question marks: keep them inside the quotation marks if they apply only to the quoted material and outside if they apply to the whole sentence, and
 * If the quotation is a single word or a sentence fragment, place the terminal punctuation outside the closing quotation mark. When quoting a full sentence, the end of which coincides with the end of the sentence containing it, place terminal punctuation inside the closing quotation mark.

Could you also have another look at the full-stop edits in this diff in light of the above and let me know what you think please? Thanks! ~ RLO1729&#128172; 14:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I suspect this is one of the thorniest questions re. the MOS. Since I do not have access to the original material, in this case books, I follow —On the English Wikipedia, use the "logical quotation" style in all articles, regardless of the variety of English in which they are written. Include terminal punctuation within the quotation marks only if it was present in the original material, and otherwise place it after the closing quotation mark.—and put the period after the quotation marks. (Even though what seems "logical" to WP often does not seem so to me!) The article has been reviewed for GA status with the periods after the quotation marks, so I would leave them there. Twofingered Typist (talk) 18:34, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * British placement depends on whether or not the quoted statement is complete or a fragment. Aight? Dis sayin'... --Brogo13 (talk) 19:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)


 * British placement is not mentioned in the MOS but go ahead and do what you want as is your practice.

Without explanation
So's "everything else" here. Anyway... --Brogo13 (talk) 21:51, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , it may help to explain yourself a bit more. The word "cliché" in that article is inside quotation marks because it is a direct quote from the author of the cited source. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It's inside quotation marks because the author of the article put it there. Without them [there] nobody cares. --Brogo13 (talk) 05:04, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The point is to show that the source called the film's title a cliché, and that the word, which could be seen as POV, is specifically not an interpretation or a paraphrase by one of the editors of the article. The quote marks enhance the NPOV of the article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:29, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Agatha Christie
I saw your tag but it looked like you hadn't edited for a while so I took a look at it. Hope you don't mind. Not a bad article, and your edits definitely were an improvement. --84.64.237.205 (talk) 11:41, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello:


 * I have been working on this article at the request of,RLO1729, an editor at the Guild of Copy Editors Request page. I notice you have tagged the article as being under copy edit. Could you let me know when you are done so I can continue my work?


 * Many thanks,


 * Twofingered Typist (talk) 11:55, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Ha, I didn't add the tag, you did. That's what my message above relates to. I've finished for now and you can continue. --84.64.237.205 (talk) 11:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Oh ... tag! (Apologies. Carry on.) --Brogo13 (talk) 21:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC) p.s. p.p.s.

The Agatha Christie Star for you!
Thanks for great copy editing! ~ RLO1729&#128172; 14:42, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you!! Twofingered Typist (talk) 15:56, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * There's a userbox too:  ~ RLO1729&#128172; 16:04, 30 June 2020 (UTC)