User talk:TylerHRead

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Conflict of interest policy
Hello, TylerHRead. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:


 * Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
 * Be cautious about deletion discussions. Everyone is welcome to provide information about independent sources in deletion discussions, but avoid advocating for deletion of articles about your competitors.
 * Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Spam).
 * Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. --Ronz (talk) 20:11, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Getting started with Wikipedia
Hi TylerHRead. I'm in a rush and don't have time to address your comment in detail. I'll try to do so later.

Buster Seven has already given you good pointers on the most important policies here. The tip I give regularly is that an editor cannot go far wrong by working from sources that are both reliable and independent.

Thanks for following up with me. --Ronz (talk) 15:40, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


 * We can discuss here.
 * Tutorial/Editing and Tutorial/Talk_pages might be helpful. --Ronz (talk) 19:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok Ronz that sounds good. This is my first time responding on my own page. I just clicked edit source. Let me know what else I should do. Thanks! TylerHRead (talk) 22:56, 4 August 2013 (UTC)Tyler
 * Wikipedia is in the middle of testing editing options, so it makes for some confusion. Currently "Edit source" is what you click on to edit an article/page or a subsection of that page.
 * As far as the article is concerned, what sources were you using for your blog/website? --Ronz (talk) 15:43, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I was using information from the 24 hour fitness website as well as another large personal training company's website called custom built personal training. They both state that they accept either a certification or a degree in order to be qualified for a job as a personal trainer.
 * Those would be self-published and primary sources. They'd probably not be acceptable sources even if the information was clearly just about the two companies' policies. They certainly couldn't be used for any generalizations about the personal training industry. Does the information at the two articles I linked make this clear? --Ronz (talk) 22:44, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey Ronz, Yeah those links kind of make sense to me. Wikipedia is looking for secondary sources right. Wouldn't an article from an author that analyses health club company policies and then comes to a conclusion that most health clubs accept a degree or a certification be considered a secondary source? How would you recommend editing the page. What source would be acceptable? Thanks for your help! -Tyler
 * I'm a bit busy, so I hope you don't mind my cutting to the chase even faster than I normally do:
 * Propose some sources and I'll be happy to look over them. --Ronz (talk) 15:33, 7 August 2013 (UTC)