User talk:Tylersev93/sandbox

To-Do list:

1. We to get a hold of his peer-reviewed articles and books from the NDSU Library (I (Tyler) will take care of this). We also need to find a good picture to go along with the page (Cheyenne, would you kindly do this?). We can maybe try contacting him as well via email, phone, etc. (This will most likely involve all of us, but Emma could you set it all up?). By getting into contact with him, maybe we can find out more about his early life (f.e. where is he from, what was his childhood like, when and where did he graduate high school, when and where did he graduate college).

2. David L. Shapiro (b June 13, 1943 is an American psychologist and independent practitioner in forensic psychology. He is a fellow of the American Psychological Association, Divisions 41 and 42 and licensed to practice psychology in four states (Maryland, New York, Florida, New Jersey) and the District of Columbia.[1] He is the author of many articles and books on issues in the field of forensic psychology, including Psychological Evaluation and Expert Testimony[2] and Forensic Psychological Assessment: An Integrative Approach.

From here on it would look a little something like:

Early life: · Add information that we get from Dr. Shapiro here (I've listed some things we could add in 1.)

Contributions: · In this section we can talk about his works and some important things that he has done for Forensic Psychology.

3. Shapiro, D. (1990). Forensic Psychological Assessment: An Integrative Approach

Shapiro, D. (1983). Psychotherapy with violent patients: Professional and legal responsibilities of the therapist. American Journal of Forensic Psychology

Shapiro, D. (1970). The significance of visual image in psychotherapy. Psychotherapy: Theory Research and Practice, 7(4), 209-212.

Walker, L. E. & Shapiro, D. (2003). Introduction to Forensic Psychology: Clinical and Social Psychological Perspectives.

Shapiro, D. (1999). Criminal Responsibility: A Manual for Practice.

We could maybe use his Vitae as well! Tylersev93 (talk) 02:08, 7 March 2015 (UTC) Tylersev93 (talk) 17:53, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Nice Job! But where is Tyler?
Emma and Cheyenne have made a great start to the article. Getting in touch with Shapiro is a great idea. I hope it pays off. However, I don't see any contributions from Tyler. This assignment was worth 25 points, so not working on it can hurt you. J.R. Council (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Good start on Assignment 6
Emma has made a good start. The rest of the group should edit her work directly, e.g., add to the outline. Don't start new sections of your own. Be sure to sign your edits. J.R. Council (talk) 21:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, and you should probably move the new section to between this section and Emma's questions.J.R. Council (talk) 21:18, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

PART A

To Do:

1. Email David Shapiro

I got in touch with David Shapiro, I emailed him and am now just waiting for a reply! Hopefully he gest back to us soon. I did CC you guys in the email as well, if he doesnt reply all I will forward his reply back to you guys. Emma.j.kramlich (talk) 15:10, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

David emailed me back. he said he is out of the country and will get back to us when he returns April 7th. At that time I can get more biographical information on his eg: parents names where he grew up, what his childhood was like.. ect. Emma.j.kramlich (talk) 03:37, 27 March 2015 (UTC) 2. Collect more references

http://heinonline.org/HOL/AuthorProfile?search_name=Shapiro%2C+David+L.&collection=journals&base=js The above link I found online and it is a website containing many of David Shapiros works. I am thinking this will be a good start to more references for us. The third task on my list of things to do was to view some of his work. I will look through some of this since I said I would be responsible for that but I think it would work really nicely to get us all on the same page if you guys searched through some of his work as well. I was hoping to find a book by David in hopes that there would be a small biography section about him. If we could find a book he wrote and retrieve a copy of it, Think we could get some really good information out of there! Emma.j.kramlich (talk) 15:10, 25 March 2015 (UTC) 3. View some of his work

4. Find and agree on a picture of Mr. Shapiro Cheyenne.brady (talk) 05:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay guys, So I think I had been looking up the wrong David Shapiro. When I'd type in the L. it took me to a Harvard website, but I think I have it figured out now.  Anyway, as far as a picture goes there's not really much online. I personally think the best one is his faculty picture at Nova Southeastern State.  Do you think there is someone at the school I'll need to email in order for us to get approved to use that picture?  The other two pictures aren't the best quality, in my opinion.  Maybe we can agree on one soon just in case we need to ask permission.  All three pictures are linked are below. The first is the faculty picture. Cheyenne.brady (talk) 04:18, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

1.http://www.cps.nova.edu/common-images/faculty/shapiro_cv.jpg 2.http://tzkseminars.com/UserFiles/tzkseminars/02262014-Shapiropicture.jpg?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 3.http://www.koob.ru/images/shapiro2.jpg

5. View resumé Cheyenne.brady (talk) 05:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I have reviewed his resumé or curriculum vitae. It was updated in 2011.  I have highlighted a few things I think are important to include or that we could get a few leads from.  I'll bring it to class Monday so you two can review it. Cheyenne.brady (talk) 04:27, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Outline

Biography

I just posted some biographical information on David Shapiros talk page Emma.j.kramlich (talk) 03:35, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Psychological Research

Psychology Career

Forensic Psychology

Legacy Cheyenne.brady (talk) 06:04, 7 March 2015 (UTC)


 * What he is most known for along with possible people he worked on it with. Cheyenne.brady (talk) 03:57, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Things, if any, his work has influenced. Cheyenne.brady (talk) 03:57, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Outstanding things he has done and will leave behind at Nova Southeastern University. Cheyenne.brady (talk) 03:57, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Scholarships or programs he is possibly associated with. Cheyenne.brady (talk) 03:57, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Publications

Citations

I found 2 more citations that may be helpful to us. One of them I used for some of the information in the biography section and the other one was interesting to me because it shows that he was not just a writer of Psychology but he also used his skill in writing for other types of publications.

https://www.jewishpub.org/product.php?author=96

http://www.scholastic.com/teachers/contributor/david-l-shapiro

Emma.j.kramlich (talk) 03:35, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

(This is how I imagine it being set up, but we can work together to change the exact outline of this)

I think the outline Emma made looks great! I do think it would be nice to separate the biography section into early life, education, and career, or something similar. It would be easier for people to find certain information, but just an option! I don't know if that would then be too many sections?Cheyenne.brady (talk) 06:04, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

References

Shapiro, D. (1999). Criminal Responsibility: A Manual for Practice.

Walker, L. E. & Shapiro, D. (2003). Introduction to Forensic Psychology: Clinical and Social Psychological Perspectives

Shapiro, D. (1970). The significance of visual image in psychotherapy. Psychotherapy: Theory Research and Practice, 7(4), 209-212.Cheyenne.brady (talk) 06:16, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

PART B:

I will email Dr. Shapiro and I can work on his biography with the information I hopefully receive from him, I could also work on the section about his publications and the citations section from the information I receive.

If you guys think of more sections to add to this we can divvy this up differently! Emma.j.kramlich (talk) 17:48, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I'd like to help work on the biography! Just because I want to learn more about the guy and I think it'd help me to be motivated to work on the different sections of the article. I can read up and gather information about his overall psychology career, gather a list of all his publications, and work on his legacy (if you all think that should even be in the outline). I think it would be good for us to meet up after we all do our planned to do sections and share our findings, just so we are all always on the same page.Cheyenne.brady (talk) 06:16, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Tyler's comments/questions
Do you think the library would be able to come into possession of some these books and articles without having us to dish out money for them? I feel as if they would, but I'm not sure... I'm 100% all-in with emailing this guy to find out more about him!
 * Regarding a picture, you'll need to find something in the public domain. I've posted material about this on Blackboard. As students, you can use the library's interlibrary loan service for free. I think trying to contact him is a great idea. Go for it. J.R. Council (talk) 05:29, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Cheyenne's questions/comments
Are there any topics you would like us to focus on? How helpful would his curriculum vitae be? Maybe that has things on there that he would like to have highlighted? I think we should try to contact him!
 * I've addressed some of this above. Regarding what to focus on, you should try to produce a well-balanced article. If his main contributions have been to forensic psych, then that should be be your major focus. However, some biographical/career background would also be an important addition. J.R. Council (talk) 05:32, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I thought this link would be helpful for us as well. It's a link to Dr. Shapiro's personal website.Cheyenne.brady (talk) 04:54, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

http://www.drdavidshapiro.com/index.php

Where are we supposed to put our actual article edits or contributions? Should we create a new section on this sandbox for the final article? Cheyenne.brady (talk) 05:09, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Emma's questions
David L. Shapiro is currently living in Florida so I am wondering if we should contact him, maybe to get other information or let him know what we are doing with his wikipedia page. Is the Vitae that he has listed on his website a good enough source to use for this wikipedia project?
 * Yes - you should try contacting him and let him know what you are doing. He could be helpful (or not). If he has a CV on his website, that would be a great place to find resources. You could certainly link to that from your article. J.R. Council (talk) 05:25, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Nice start, Emma! / Scoring example.
I see that Emma has made a start with 2 entries on the Talk page. One of the entries is pretty substantial, so I'll give 3 points total. J.R. Council (talk) 22:45, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Good start, but you'll get more points in the sandbox
I've been trying to keep track of what this group has been doing. I will certainly give credit for what Emma and Tyler have added to the Shapiro article Talk page. I am counting up the edits to this Talk page as well. There is some good work on discussion, planning, and listing of resources. Remember for the next phase of this assignment that actually adding material to develop the article in the Sandbox is worth a lot more than adding to Talk pages.
 * I also see that you're waiting for more material from Shapiro when he gets back in the country. You should have that before the next assignment is due. J.R. Council (talk) 03:28, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Infobox
just trying to figure this outCheyenne.brady (talk) 06:09, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Glad to see you're working on this. J.R. Council (talk) 06:09, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Not ready for publication
I realize that you are waiting for new information. However, you could be doing more. At the very least, work on the intro paragragraph. This is the most important part of a Wikipedia article. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section for instructions. 06:12, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * See above - there are things you could be doing, like an Intro section. You could alsobe summarizing his work. I will hold scoring this assignment a bit longer, but you need to show you are working on it. J.R. Council (talk) 19:56, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Needs a new intro paragraph
The current lead section on current work is good, but not suitable as an introduction. You should write something more general about his career and professional contributions.
 * Overall, this article still needs more content. You should provide more information about his research contributions, and perhaps a representative list of publications. Please note that the Wikipedia definition of primary sources is not the same as we use in psychology. It is perfectly okay to cite research papers from peer reviewed journals.
 * I'm trying to figure out how you could upload a picture of Shapiro. J.R. Council (talk) 19:09, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Seeing some progress!
The info box looks good. Still need to do a good intro. There isn't a huge amount of content, but once you write the intro, I'll consider sending the link to Ian. Regarding pictures and copyright - technically the copyright for a picture resides with whoever took the picture. In practice, it seems like people are happy to behave as if the subject of the picture owns the copyright. Anyway, if someone emails you a picture, there's no clear way to show that you have permission, so the process also would require the person to send an email to OTRS saying that they release the image under a specified free licence. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OTRS#Licensing_images:_when_do_I_contact_OTRS.3F
 * I think once you post this, the picture may be taken down. Here is what Ian has to say about posting a picture:

It's a bit cumbersome. An alternative option is for the person to upload their picture to their Flickr account (or some other such account) and tag it with an appropriate licence (it must not be a non-commercial licence.) Then your student can add a link to Flickr. Now, of course, the student can't upload it to Flickr themselves, pretending to be the psychologist (I hope that would be obvious to them,but it isn't always).

If they want more help, tell them to email me. ian@wikiedu.org J.R. Council (talk) 22:09, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Still needs significant work
I have not seen any progress on this since my last comments. Unless there is significant improvement by the end of the day, I can't send the link to Ian for review. J.R. Council (talk) 20:25, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Not suitable for publication
This group made a good start on Assignment 9, but has not developed the article to where it is suitable for publication. I'm giving you all partial credit for the work you've done. Thanks! J.R. Council (talk) 17:21, 5 May 2015 (UTC)