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SA-15
The article currently does not comply with the developed name convention of Russian SAM systems, should be "9K330 Tor" as opposed to "Tor Missile System" like "9K37 Buk", "9K33 Osa", "9K22 Tunguska" etc. --Typhoon9410 (talk)


 * I partially agree : The Tor Missile System (SA-15) is the 9K330. but here is a little problem :
 * Tor : 9K330
 * Tor-M : 9K331
 * Tor-M1 : (no name)
 * Tor-M2 : 9K332


 * All those variants would also require a separate article... What I suggest is to keep the current name and use it as a system family (a little bit like the S-300 family).


 * By the same token, The SA-6, SA-11 and SA-17 could be merged as the same system family... It kinda annoys me too to have multiple standards.
 * --Ŧħę௹ɛя㎥ 21:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thats a good point, its the problem of dealing with all these changing designations (had this problem with radars), even Tor Missile System is quite specific to one particular system, the 9K330. Though I agree it is the better "catch all" name for the whole family and that we should probably keep the current name. Merging SA-11 and SA-17 under "Buk Missile System" sounds good though I would be inclined to keep the Kub Missile System seperate, though they are closely related.Typhoon9410 (talk) 15:31, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. But we will need to fix the three articles as they talk a lot about each other. Same problem with SA-7,SA-14, SA-16, SA-18 and SA-24. --Ŧħę௹ɛя㎥ 03:14, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, so things look set to propose a merge for all of the Buk articles into "Buk missile system"?Typhoon9410 (talk) 11:59, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, before we forget and the articles get too complex... I will put the merge tags.--ŦħęGɛя㎥ 13:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

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SA-15
Hi Typhoon, I recently edited the SA-15 page and removed some information, which you have put back. I would like to explain my reasons for removing that info.

"Tor being the first air defence system in the world designed to shoot down precision guided weapons as well as conventional aircraft."

This particular sentence is currently sitting in the middle of a paragraph, and doesn't fit in with the rest of the section. I'm trying to think of a way to integrate it with the rest, but not haveing much luck. It's also a major claim, and should have a source to back it up. I've been unable to find one (though admittedly I haven't had the chance to do a thorough search).

The second area is the, in my opinion, overly detailed section on the Design Bureau. Does the reader really need to know that Almaz Antey became a joint stock company in 2002? It doesn't seem very notable, or indeed anything that 99.99% of the people reading the article will care about.

What are your thoughts?

203.35.82.136 (talk) 17:37, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, first thank you for your contributions to the SA-15 article it reads much better than before and I would be very grateful (if you get the opportunity) to take a look at some of the other SA-X articles on wikipedia! On the information I recovered:


 * 1) I agree it is an important claim that should definitely be referenced, I will endeavour to do this also. I placed the sentence there because it is about the design objectives of the SA-15, though yes the wording could be improved, how does this edit sound?
 * 2) As for the designers I felt it was important to note who contributed to the Tor project and to add as a addition what these groups are called now as the reader may wish to link to these groups to further explore the subject. I did plan to add the manufacturers and designers to the external links earlier (now amended).Typhoon9410 (talk) 14:12, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

It's a pleasure to help; I hate articles that are a chore to read (no offence to your good self). I'm editing from work, so I may go home and create an account, if the MILHIST project will have me.

Regarding your 2nd point, while it is useful and pertinent information, it just seems a little too much, if you know what I mean. Perhaps we could mention the name of the company in the article, and include a footnote containing the details? Just a thought.

203.35.135.133 (talk) 16:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I would certainly encourage you to join MILHIST and to keep up with the contributions, as you can see there is much to do and suprisingly few making major contributions. 2) I think so long as the important details (bureao,head developer,date) are retained it could just be a case of removing unessasary wording and re-jigging the sentances. Ive had another hack at it and cut it back a bit.Typhoon9410 (talk) 16:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Right, I'm here, I'll start copy-editing on the Tor tomorrow. Sarcastic ShockwaveLover (talk) 12:15, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

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April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive
Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive and create a worklist at WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:25, 31 March 2021 (UTC)