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Neighbours
Hey there. It was not passive aggression restoring the earlier content to the Neighbours article. Perhaps an explanation would be better than edit summaries to avoid such a misunderstanding. It stated that Chris "became the first prominent, ongoing gay male character in the show's history." That is accurate because it stated Chris was the "first prominent" and "ongoing gay male character" in Neighbours. Gino was not prominent, not an ongoing/regular role and his sexuality was not explored in the story like Chris' was. The second part states "He was the second ongoing gay character overall, following recurring character Lana Crawford's (Bridget Neval) introduction in 2004." There could be a small issue with the wording there and could read better as "He was the second ongoing gay character overall, following recurring character Lana Crawford's (Bridget Neval) introduction in 2004." Perhaps something like "Chris was the second character writers used to explore sexuality stories, following the introduction of the lesbian character, Lana Crawford (Bridget Neval) in 2004." At present stating Chris was the first "main character" discounts both Gino and Lana. I think it sits slightly better with added context. Could you possibly rethink?Rain the 1 09:43, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * While Lana could certainly warrant a mention, the wording here was weird. I don't think we can exclude Gino as an "ongoing" character, considering he was on the show for seven years! As you indicate, Chris and Lana are more notable as their storylines explore their sexuality - but Lana isn't the first there either, considering the characters from 1994-5. Nor, therefore, is Chris the first openly gay male, despite what the attached source says. He is the first regular/main gay character, though, and there's a good reference in his article to that. Lana's main notablity (for the purposes of a quick overview) is for the show's first lesbian kiss (not sure if the first same sex kiss full stop?), which could be added with better referencing. In conclusion, it's all a bit of a mess. I'll have a go at revising more thoroughly. U-Mos (talk) 07:05, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree, it was a bit of a mess. You're original edit tidied it up but discounted others. But my restore still discounted Gino. I like where you are going with the new edit. I do think we could provide further context. I think "a number of gay characters" allows the reader to assume that Neighbours featured more gay characters in the 90s than they did. You could instead state "three guest characters" since you have a good source for them already. The source also mentions Gino, who could be added into the mix? Maybe "...preceding decade, the show achieved greater longevity for a gay recurring character with Gino Esposito (Shane McNamara). Lana Crawford (Bridget Neval) became the first lesbian character in 2004." We would have covered it all then.Rain the 1 09:40, 23 April 2022 (UTC)