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June 2014
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Sleeping Dogs
Well, he mentioned me in regards to the music section anyways. As far as that goes, I don't think you need one- I don't think there's the content for it. That list is just trivia, so it should be cut- instead just list a few representative genres- "The stations feature music from a large range of genres, such as blah, blah, and blah.[45]" At that point you just have one small paragraph, so it should just be in the development section. There don't seem to be a lot of sources that would expand it enough to make a separate section worth it; the only other thing I could find was that there was an album titled "As Featured in Sleeping Dogs" which included some of the music in the game as well as some other tracks- is a non-reliable source to prove it exists, so you'll need to hunt down something better. Good luck! -- Pres N  21:18, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * User:PresN Thanks! URDNEXT (talk) 21:26, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Did you really thank a bot for editing? GamerPro64  00:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes. The user behind the bot will know it. URDNEXT (talk) 03:12, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. GamerPro64  03:31, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

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Talkback
Stefan2 (talk) 20:14, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Re: copy editing
I'm not specially concerned with copy editing, but you can find the list of members who are specially related to copy editing. See this for further detail. Thank you A.Minkowiski_Lets t@lk 17:03, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Response
In response to your question (Are you available for copy editing?), probably not. 1. I don't know the lingo, so I don't know what copy editing is. 2. My (US Army) deployment schedule is not in my favor for the remainder of 2014. Bullmoosebell (talk) 21:47, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It alright. By the way, thanks for serving our country! Take care! URDNEXT (talk) 23:58, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

In response to your question (Are you available for copy editing?), yes I am. CopyEdit Bliss (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 17:40, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * CopyEdit Bliss Thanks! I need copy editing on Sleeping Dogs (video game). The whole article is a mess; grammar issues, gets out of focus several times, etc. URDNEXT (talk) 17:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
Stefan2 (talk) 12:50, 23 June 2014 (UTC)



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 * Thanks a lot,  WooHoo! ! Here's to building a better Wiki! URDNEXT (talk) 15:40, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

RE: Sleeping Dogs
Hi, thanks for informing me about your intentions for the Sleeping Dog video games. Yes, I'd be delighted to help add and clean up the pages just as soon as I've found info on them! :) Kind Regards TwinTurbo (talk) 10:03, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright! These are links that have a lot of info that isn't used in the article: http://forums.sleepingdogs.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4460 - This leads to several interviews the developer did. http://designingsound.org/2013/09/spectral-analysis-interview-with-saki-kaskamanidis/ - The game's audio director did an interview where he talked A LOT about the game. Lots of info that's missing from the article. TwinTurbo URDNEXT (talk) 15:37, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * This game was underated IMO. I had more fun with it than GTA 5. URDNEXT (talk) 15:42, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Here are more links:

- http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/27/sleeping-dogs-interview-true-triad-stories/ - about the combat - http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/25/sleeping-dogs-fighting-system-inspired-by-tony-jaa-action-flick-the-protector/ - How "The Protector" inspired the game - http://metro.co.uk/2012/02/17/sleeping-dogs-interview-going-undercover-322269/ - About the game's development - http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/06/12/sleeping-dogs-and-telling-stories-through-games/ - About the storytelling - http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/173237/how_sleeping_dogs_tackles_open_.php - About the open-world - http://gameological.com/2012/11/dan-sochan-sleeping-dogs-producer/ - About how the researched Hong Kong - The game also took its "car-hijacking" from the game Wheelman. - http://gameological.com/2012/11/dan-sochan-sleeping-dogs-producer/ - How they designed the game - http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/interviews/a383945/sleeping-dogs-interview-united-front-games-on-hong-kong-inspiration.html#~oI7t1Ub8ERmqGz - Interview on inspirations URDNEXT (talk) 15:51, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Re: Hey
How's what going? I'm just waiting for Tony Hawk's Underground's review to get done and for someone to pick Sonic X to review; then I'm outta here for a while.

Oh, and if this is about Sleeping Dogs, I forgot last time. I'll just start on it now. Tezero (talk) 22:57, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tezero Just wanted to socialize, talk for a bit. I'm on work break today, so I'm enjoying my time as much as I can editing on the site and talking to friends. URDNEXT (talk) 23:02, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh. Okay. Uh... well, today has been boring. I need to finish some online training for a tutoring position, and I'm getting through that sluggishly. I'd also like to find an online class for the summer, but haven't looked much yet. I've been looking forward to Duolingo adding more languages, since I want to learn Irish, but the progress bars all seem to have halted, which is disappointing. Tezero (talk) 23:30, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tezero Have you tried Rosseta Stone? I know it's cliche, but I have some friends that got through High School spanish using that. URDNEXT (talk) 23:32, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It's outrageously expensive, I hear, while Duolingo's free. Outside school, my best experience with learning a language has been with Czech, which I started a couple years ago to connect with my heritage and have been doing on-and-off ever since. The problem is that, because I've had so little listening/speaking material, I can't speak nearly as fluidly as I can read. I find that interactive drills with audio feedback are helpful for that. Tezero (talk) 23:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tezero Here, this book is a really helpful guide to the Czech language, http://www.amazon.com/Czech-Essential-Grammar-Routledge-Grammars/dp/0415287855/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top (Just don't get it on Kindle, since I hear the version was badly ported). This website talks about what helps learning Czech in a "no-Bs" way; that's what the site says. Link: http://www.fluentin3months.com/why-czech-isnt-as-hard-to-learn-as-you-think/ Here's a section for the site: If you’ve decided to learn Czech, the first thing that other learners or (especially) natives may do is tell you how hard it is. It’s got 7 cases, unpronounceable consonant clusters, irregular plurals, unrecognisable vocabulary, the hard-to-pronounce letter ř, lions and tigers and bears, oh my!!! As a generally optimistic person, I tend to ignore unhelpful comments like these whenever possible. None of these news-flashes were going to help or encourage me to make progress in the language, so I found another way of looking at them. When you learn French, Spanish etc. there is a host of words the same or similar in English that really ease the blow (I’ll talk about these another time). Since Czech is in the Slavic language branch, most words you encounter are nothing like their English counterparts, so it can be quite discouraging when you have hundreds of thousands of words to describe all the basic things in life, to learn off. Even the best memory techniques may not help when you are up against such a vast amount. Lucky for us, Czech isn’t actually made up of hundreds of thousands of different of individual words, but actually, a much smaller subset of word roots, prefixes and suffixes, most of which are linked together in logical or easy to remember ways. Czech does this way more than the western European languages I’m familiar with (which already do it to a certain extent). Let me show you what I mean: Let’s take 4 prefixes; v, vy, od and za, (all but vy are also prepositions) and add them to a word root chod related to the verb chodit, to go (habitual). v by itself and in many verbs means in so when you have something for “going in” you have a…? An entrance! vchod! vý/vy doesn’t exist by itself in this context, but it means the opposite and you have an exit: východ. od by itself means simply from, so what do you think a “from-go” thing would be? A departure = odchod! You’ll actually find that a huge amount of words in Czech are formed by a small number of prefixes added to roots and a lot of them have extremely logical meanings like this. Compare this to the French for exit, sortie, which is impossible to understand unless you have seen specifically that word or its verb sortir before. I find Czech’s word formation to be much more logical and it is definitely easier to remember. So learning a new word sometimes doesn’t actually involve learning any new words at all!

- Also, this TED talk "talks" about how to learn any language in six months, I personally love this one, because it not only helps learning languages, but literally anything. I'm learning marleting with its method; believe it or not. Here's the link:http://youtube.com/watch?v=d0yGdNEWdn0

Re: Sleeping Dogs
I suppose I can, although I don't want to get too committed as I'm basically waiting for Tony Hawk's Underground to get reviewed before taking a break for a while. What do you think needs touching up? Tezero (talk) 17:33, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tezero Downloadable content and post-release need some cleaning. URDNEXT (talk) 17:39, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Looking at it now, I wouldn't say that cleanup is what's necessary; rather, the subsections of Downloadable content have no citations or real-world information, and Post-release needs a large amount of expansion considering how many reviews are available. I can start working on that later today, methinks. Tezero (talk) 17:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, I hate to say it, but I've just found the old GA review, and a lot of those issues remain, although you have indeed been working on it. Tezero (talk) 17:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks! Contact me if you find any problems! Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 17:53, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you know when you're gonna start working on it? So I can have an idea of when to do the copy-editing. Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 12:12, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, I got caught up in some stuff yesterday. Eh, maybe tonight; I have some online courses to finish that my dad's been badgering me about pretty forcefully, so I can't be sure. Tezero (talk) 15:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It's alright, you can do it whenever you like! URDNEXT (talk) 16:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

I've removed a few of the reviews. Typically, about 6-10 reviews are used; I left 10. I tried to pick the most notable and widely followed publications; feel free to go back in the edit history and swap some out. (You can bring all of them back if you want, but I don't recommend this as it will likely be challenged in a GAN or FAC.) Tezero (talk) 23:27, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Cheers! URDNEXT (talk) 23:30, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

As a note, I think "Post-release" will be organized along a few common points: great open world with a ton to do, great combat and variety of satisfyingly violent attacks, decent but flawed narrative, and a few bugs. Those are the major ones from the few reviews I've read, anyway. Tezero (talk) 00:08, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. But what about the music/audio? That should get some love too. Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 00:10, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. If you have a better summary of what critics did and didn't like, I'm all ears. (And I don't mean that sarcastically; I would prefer your summary since you appear more interested in the game than I am and I might miss things.) Tezero (talk) 01:50, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm looking into it. By the way, did you see my reply down below? On the Czech thing. Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 02:24, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I just didn't have anything to say. I've already used that book to some degree, and I haven't had much luck with the "Learn X in Y amount of time!" dealies. Tezero (talk) 02:26, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * What about the TED talk? That sure is helpful! Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 02:28, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Eh, looks more motivational and generic than what I want. Actually, another thing I need practice on is Czech noun and adjective declension. Tezero (talk) 02:31, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * This YouTube video about nouns seems helpful to me, what do you think? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eVEY4-Nk6F8 Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 15:47, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

RE: Copy editing
Sorry, I'm quite busy this week. However, I will try my best to help this weekend when I have time.

P.S: I don't know what I'm supposed to copy edit.Wuzh (talk) 06:20, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Wuzh Sleeping Dogs (video game) is the article. The giod thing about you doing it on the weekend is that we have time to add more things to the article. URDNEXT (talk) 12:03, 23 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Turns out my work is finished today. I can help with copyediting now.Wuzh (talk) 01:18, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, if you seem to run into any problems, just contact me! Wuzh URDNEXT (talk) 01:20, 27 June 2014 (UTC)



Talkback
Stefan2 (talk) 21:23, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Re: FA
Man, I remember this game; it was the second game I ever got for my old GBA, my first handheld or home console, back when I was 8, the first being Pokémon Crystal a little earlier. I've probably beaten it thrice - good times. Anyway, I've got a few comments, but you may want to take this to PR:
 * The intro's pretty long given the size of the article. Generally, I'd only expect something of this length for highly popular musicians with extensive careers, important historical figures, countries, stuff like that.
 * ✅ So, as I have responded to all of your things, and aimproved the article a lot, what do you think of it now, Tezero? 0 to 10, how much would the article score? Also, I have opened the peer review page, the link is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Super_Mario_Bros._3/archive2 URDNEXT (talk) 22:53, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * With 0 being a stub, non-article, or other frivolous nomination, 10 being an absolutely stellar FA, and 5 being something that passes the GA criteria and no more, I'd rank this as an 8. The only real issues I see, barring possible prose concerns (which Casliber's working on, apparently), are some inconsistent source formatting (e.g. "Wii.ign.com" in source 55 vs. "IGN" elsewhere, YYYY-DD-MM date formatting in some citations and longhand in others) and the use of GameFAQs, which was determined to be unreliable a few months ago due to containing user-submitted information. (Typically you can find release information in magazine articles from the time, and often in the information sections of the game's profile on IGN and whatnot.) Tezero (talk) 23:03, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the intro's still too long. Tezero (talk) 23:58, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tezero All GameFaqs cite hve been removed. Working on the rest. By the way, do you if any bots could fix the reference dates? It would be REALLY helpful. URDNEXT (talk) 00:41, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't know of any. I'll do it myself if you don't want to. Tezero (talk) 00:42, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Please, that would make my day. Also would save me hours of work that could go in other parts of the article. Thanks Tezero! URDNEXT (talk) 00:46, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I've started with that. Tezero (talk) 01:19, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Plot needs some wikilinks, which should then be removed later on.
 * ✅ I wikilinked all the other characters and cited the ending to the Wikia page. By the way, is Wikia reliable? I'm 100% the plot is right. Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 20:54, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No, Wikia is not reliable at all. It's a plot, though; you don't need to cite it to anything. (If you were to, though, I'd suggest the instruction manual and the in-game dialogue.) Tezero (talk) 21:15, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Gameplay might go into a bit too much detail regarding powerups. I mean, that paragraph is gigantic, and the part just on a powerup Mario/Luigi only receives in one level could be a small paragraph on its own.
 * ✅ Like it? Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 22:18, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's better. Tezero (talk) 22:49, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * "Developer Shigeru Miyamoto directed the designers and programmers, working with them closely during the initial concepts and final stages, encouraging a free interchange of ideas." - I don't know the name of this, but two "verbing" constructions in one sentence is discouraged.
 * ✅ How does it look now? Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 20:46, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * A little better. I'd go with something like "Shigeru Miyamoto served as director. He worked closely with the designers and programmers during the conceptual and final stages, encouraging a free interchange of ideas." Tezero (talk) 21:15, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You don't mind if I "steal" that, do you Tezero? URDNEXT (talk) 21:18, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't mind, exactly, but I'll have to authorize that. I'll have my lawyer write up a contract and you can wire me the licensing fee. It'll be hefty, so I'll allow you to pay it incrementally over time - 24 months is my standard - but of course there's interest, which shouldn't... No, go ahead and use it. Wikipedia ain't copyrighted. Tezero (talk) 21:28, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * That actually got me thinking how licensing music for games must suck. Imagine having to negociate every single song used in the game. Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 21:41, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I suspect that's why games with licensed songs tend to be released by large publishers with lots of staff to work simultaneously. Tezero (talk) 22:49, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The second paragraph of Development is kind of long and rambling. I think it could reasonably be split into development steps that were made for gameplay reasons + artistic inspirations.
 * ✅ Though I'm not sure if it hits what you said about it being rambling. Would you mind taking a look, Tezero? URDNEXT (talk) 22:33, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Universal Studios should be linked in Development. In general, do this for things that are otherwise linked only in the lead or infobox.
 * Not sure I like the organization of Reception. I mean, you've got one good-sized paragraph on praise and one tiny one (two lines on my screen) on critique; why not use recency as a metric? You know, contemporary reviews vs. retrospective ones.
 * ✅ I organized the reception in a different way, but there are no retrospective reviews, at least from what I searched. Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 22:19, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, Allgame, GameSpot, and IGN I know are retrospective, as none of those existed in 1990. Tezero (talk) 22:49, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, Frith, that third paragraph is giant. Please do something with it.
 * Mention the significance of the game canon. I mean, Library of Congress?! That's really something. I assumed it was just a page by IGN that we happened to have an article for and that wouldn't have much of a prayer of passing [WP:N.
 * I didn't get one word you said... :P Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 20:25, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The prose mentions the game canon, but the average reader won't know what that is or why it's significant. The game being registered with the Library of Congress is quite significant. Tezero (talk) 20:26, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tezero Oh... Now I get it. Sh*t, that's important. I don't know how I never heard of the game canon before. URDNEXT (talk) 20:32, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Is it good now Tezero? I tried making it more comprehensive. URDNEXT (talk) 20:42, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Much better. Tezero (talk) 20:50, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * A few citations are needed in Legacy: where the "citation needed" tag is, after "Pom Pom", and after "service on the Nintendo eShop".
 * ✅ All citations you said were added, and I deleted the citation needed sentence since I can't find any sources. URDNEXT (talk) 20:14, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The Legacy paragraph is kind of a mess. I'd recommend dealing it out into recurring gameplay elements + The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3.
 * ✅ URDNEXT (talk) 22:27, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Is videogamecritic.net a reliable source?
 * What do you think about this one, Tezero? http://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/wiiu-eshop/super_mario_bros_3_nes URDNEXT (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:VG/RS says, "Factual information (especially release dates) [is reliable from there]; for editorial content, author reliability is needed." I'll leave that one up to you. Tezero (talk) 20:06, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, videogamecritic.com is as reliable of a source as Nintendo Life, so in this case, I'm just gonna exclude the review from the table, is that ok with you, Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 20:22, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I guess I didn't see it there. Yeah, sure, that's fine. Tezero (talk) 20:24, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Tezero (talk) 17:35, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * This isn't an FA-level pass on prose, but nothing stands out as glaringly poorly worded. Generally, prose reviewing isn't one of my strengths, though.

Right - I am not hugely famliar with this one, so can't really comment on comprehensiveness, but am massaging the prose - feel free to revert if I guff the meaning. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:38, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It's alright. I welcome anyone who's willing to contribute, Cas Liber. Good luck! URDNEXT (talk) 20:41, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey, can anyone do a image review? Cas Liber Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 20:58, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The overworld image isn't low-resolution, and I don't see why the Frog Suit image is a GIF. The FURs for all three are decent and justify the images' allocation, but could be a little more detailed. Tezero (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tezero ✅ Are all the images good now? I replaced the gif with a normal version by the way. URDNEXT (talk) 01:09, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Uh... what'd you change other than that? Tezero (talk) 01:19, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tezero I revamped all the images' FURs so they have a better summary. I placed the world image with a reduce tag, unless you're in a hurry and want me to upload another version of it. That's pretty much it! URDNEXT (talk) 01:21, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Re: Thank God
If you have doubts about Ace's reliability, don't cite actual facts about the gameplay or anything else that you'll need. You can always remove a review that's purely used for opinion. Tezero (talk) 17:54, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * ACE was one of the most respected video game magazines of the late '80s and early '90s. Definitely worth using. Also, about the peer review: I'll be able to critique the sourcing and help you locate more, but that's about it. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 21:26, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Super Mario Bros. 3
Why do you feel that it's necessary to split the video game reviews into two tables? I have not seen any other video game article that does this. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 16:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Because then nobody is gonna know which one is old and which one is new. Well, they might if they pay attention to the paragraphs, but it's a lot more organized if we separate them, so it doesn't confuse people. ThomasO1989 URDNEXT (talk) 17:57, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I would actually consider separating them to be even more confusing. There is no visible indication in the tables that one set of reviews is "old" and the other is "new," so the reader will not understand the context without reading the paragraphs. It's simpler to use one table (which is the standard) than assume that the reader will pick up on that. But, for games released across platforms, I've favored putting the platform next to the score, like 8/10 (NES) and 7.5/10 (Wii), which will help distinguish what reviews are newer. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:09, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, we'll roll with that then, ok? ThomasO1989 URDNEXT (talk) 18:34, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. That makes the most sense to me. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:36, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

On the review of Tangled
Do you remember the review on Tangled? I'm here to remind you in case you've forgotten it. Thank you in advance!Forbidden User (talk) 14:07, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm working on it, just quite slower than I wished. I got caught up on a lot of stuff from work, plus I'm moving to a new city, so these things have been pretty much killing all my time. I'll get the review up by today, I promise. Forbidden User URDNEXT (talk) 15:59, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks!Forbidden User (talk) 16:05, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

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Sleeping Dogs issues
Hello, I noticed your substantial contributions to the Sleeping Dogs article and I thought I'd come here to inform you that we have a user with a history of edit wars removing content that he or she doesn't agree with. I don't believe it quite qualifies as vandalism but there should really be a dialogue on the talk page if the user would like it removed. I've reverted once but don't want to get in an edit war. Your opinion would be appreciated. --WhereAmI (talk) 23:27, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Tnx fr yr invitation to help GA-ify Sleeping Dogs. Unfortunately, I currently have quite a lot on my job list already, so I need to decline unfortunately. But please feel free to ping me again in the future, as I may have more free cycles at another time. Cheers! jxm (talk) 21:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It's ok, man! I'll see you around! jxm URDNEXT (talk) 22:11, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Sleeping Dogs GAN
Hey, I just got an unconventional idea regarding us buffing the page up for GA. I'd like to pick some time of some day (say, 11 pm [Central U.S. time] on August 17) and decide, bam, no matter what, the article is shipping out to GAN at that time? We can still make edits after that, but that'd motivate us to get the meat of the work done by that point. (This is probably more for my sake than yours; I have a lot of tasks, on-Wiki and off-, that currently demand my focus and that I need to keep organized.) Tezero (talk) 00:55, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hell yeah! Let's do this! Tezero URDNEXT (talk) 01:30, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Critical reception sections in film articles
Whenever I need to know how something is structured in a given type of article, I try to look for a well-developed example of that type of article to give me clues. Since Featured Articles are those that are considered those of the highest quality on Wikipedia, I will sometimes look through the Media section of the Featured articles page for ideas. The 300 article, for example, provides what may be the most extensive Reception section that I've ever seen in a film article. Hope that helps! Nightscream (talk) 00:54, 17 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks man! Nightscream URDNEXT (talk) 00:56, 17 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Sure. Just one thing, though: You don't need to clutter a talk page with a heading for each message. All messages in the same discussion can be placed under the same main heading.


 * As far as your draft is concerned, it appears to be fairly solid, aside from some minor typos or formatting issues:


 * "It is the 8th animated feature in..." Outside of proper nouns, numbers 0 - 9 should be written as words, so it should eighth. (WP:NUMERAL)
 * Names of books or series are italicized, but stories, story arcs or storylines are quoted, so this should be applied to the mention of the comics storylines "A Death in the Family" and "Under the Hood". This is one of the most frequent recurring corrections I have to make in comics articles, including several I fixed today.
 * The first appearance of a term in the Lead section should be wikilinked, so this should be applied to Judd Winick (whose name is wikilinked in its second appearance in the Lead, rather than the first) and Brandon Vietti.
 * When listing the voice cast, the actors and character names should be followed by a comma rather than a semicolon, as in the article for Frozen, for example.
 * I'm going to assume that the photos that accompany the voice cast in your draft are only there as a test, because if the captions are correct, then Kristen Bell and Idina Menzel have really let themselves go! Ditto for the the first sentence under Themes and the caption of the Judd Winick photo.
 * A section cannot be divided into only one subsection, so unless there is another subjection under Reception, the "Critical reception" subheading should be removed. (Yet another correction I frequently make to articles.) It can always be restored in the future is someone adds another subsection.


 * Hope that helps. :-) Nightscream (talk) 01:25, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, man! It's an honor to have someone like you who has good faith on the site, ! URDNEXT (talk) 01:42, 17 August 2014 (UTC)


 * You're very welcome. And thank you for the nice compliment. It is much appreciated. Just out of curiosity, how did you learn of me? Nightscream (talk) 02:11, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * You were fixing a lot of crap on Howard Stark, a page in which I did my first edit on the site. URDNEXT (talk) 02:17, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

IBCPirates
Hi! This isn't about editing, but just wondering, what is Sleeping Dogs? -->SexyPirateChic<-- 16:51, 19 August 2014 (UTC) User:IBCPirates
 * It's a 2012 open world game about an undercover cop infiltrated in the Sun On Yee triad organization. It has a very similar combat system to the Batman Arkham games and lets players free roam around an open Hong Kong. Hope this helps!  URDNEXT (talk) 16:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Here is the page too, Sleeping Dogs (video game) URDNEXT (talk) 17:00, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay! Thanks! I just saw you talk about it on another users page, and I saw the images you uploaded, and I was like, "What the heck..." so I'll def check it out! Thanks! --SexyPirateChic 17:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IBCPirates (talk • contribs)
 * No problem. I'm sure you're gonna like the game, though I reccomend you watch some videos about it first on YouTube so it's easier to catch what's going on, specially because the article is undergoing major changes right now. URDNEXT (talk) 17:07, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Is it violent? Because in the images you uploaded, it seems like it is. --IBCPirates 17:11, 19 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IBCPirates (talk • contribs)
 * It's pretty violent. The gunfights are bloody, but the real deal are the environmental kills featured in fistfights. The player can throw an enemie in furnaces, fishtanks or even use a table saw to finish them off. It's bloody, but hey, it's a Bruce Lee/John Woo inspired film. The game is also rated mature so, expect a lot of cursing. But on the bright side, it has one of the best stories I've ever experienced, and a fantastic open world to explore. URDNEXT (talk)
 * No kidding! One of my friends showed me the cover! Jeez! That's a lot of blood. And cursing, I don't mind. I live in a family of eight. I'm used to it. --IBCPirates 19:45, 19 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IBCPirates (talk • contribs)
 * That's a good thing. I'm an only child myself, and with my parents being very strict, I didn't see a lot of cursing in my childhood. But then came High School and College... URDNEXT (talk) 19:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh. I'm only in High School. I'm 16. My parents were pretty strict, then came the divorce...and then they just let go.--IBCPirates 22:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IBCPirates (talk • contribs)
 * My parents also divorced when I was young, so I know how it feels. For some reason it seems like eveyone is breaking up and divorcing now, I swear releashionships lasted longer back in the day. URDNEXT (talk) 22:49, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I can't even keep my own relationship straight. That's why we broke up, me and my boyfriend. Now I've got this wikipedian hitting on me. User: Lordstarscream*Elizabethswan--IBCPirates 22:58, 19 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IBCPirates (talk • contribs)
 * Sorry for asking, but is User: Lordstarscream*Elizabethswan a women? It says on Jinkinson' talk page. Just for curiosity. URDNEXT (talk) 23:14, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Long story. My friend, User:ThirtySecondsToMars created the account to play a prank on me. Then I caught her, and she gave it to Ciaran, a really cute guy, but unfortunately, he's crazy and is a little TOO obsessed. :-( I have a lot of boy problems. You? Girl problems, I mean. --IBCPirates 23:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by IBCPirates (talk • contribs)
 * I don't have those thankfully. I'm don't like dating a lot of people. URDNEXT (talk) 23:25, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Let's change the subject! XD Do you like Johnny Depp? --IBCPirates 23:34, 19 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IBCPirates (talk • contribs)


 * Very much. I love all of his films with one exception, Transcendence. URDNEXT (talk) 23:37, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I love him. I haven't seen it. Not allowed.--IBCPirates 23:53, 19 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IBCPirates (talk • contribs)
 * Seriously? Why? URDNEXT (talk) 23:55, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry I took so long to reply. I fell asleep on my laptop. Uh, why? Because my mom thinks that it's an adult movie, and I'm only 16, so she wants to protect me from stuff that I should'nt be watching, and she thinks that Transendence wasn't a good movie when she saw it, so she doesn't want me to see it, either. But, yeah, I love Johnny Depp. :-) --IBCPirates 17:40, 20 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IBCPirates (talk • contribs)

Favors
Hi again URDNEXT,

Your page now looks a lot better, I was revisiting it to see what improvements you've made to it. I spotted on the page that you say you'd be willing to help with GANs and FACs. I've got quite a few GANs waiting on a reviewer, but a more simple task that would be more meaningful to me would be if you could write on the FA review for Briarcliff Manor. Any comment you could give would be great, any amount or level of detail in constructive criticism or support. The first nomination just didn't get enough attention, so I had to renominate it. Here's the link:

Thank you.-- ɱ    (talk)  22:21, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't make any promises on GAs as I'm currently handling the GA for Sleeping Dogs (video game) and that's gonna probaly keep me busy for some days. But I can absolutely give comments for the FA review you mentioned, it would be quite exciting as I've never given any feedback on an FA nomination before. I remember my first day on the site when I didn't really know a lot about it. The first thing I did was nominate a C article for FA witout warning anyone of it. I thought FA was just something anyone could do, but I soon learned my lessons after some editors got mad at me. I'll take a look at the article now. Thanks for everything, specially for helping me with my user page, I owe you that one! :) URDNEXT (talk) 19:00, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks so much. Also, I was telling someone else this today: per WP:NOTBROKEN, redirects actually are preferred. Hope you won't mind if I revert your edit to my page because of it.-- ɱ    (talk)  19:28, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Nah, it's totally ok. URDNEXT (talk) 19:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Sleeping Dogs draft
Hey Urdnext, I just read through your draft of Sleeping Dogs and regarding your request I thought I would leave you with some analysis. All three sections of your draft are very comprehensive (it neglects no major facts or details and places the subject in context), it is generally well-written (as in the prose flows well, it's easy to read and understand for unfamiliar readers} and the context shows evidence that it is well researched. These things meet the FA criteria however (I don't know if this is just part of your draft) but I noticed the lack of references in your draft. From a copy editor's point of view I think it is very well written but I think that the FA reviewers with scrutinise this more than me! It definitely needs more citations as a lot of reviewers can get pushy about this, especially towards FA (I'm lenient on citations as I mainly focus on prose issues - that matters in GANs!).

One sentence in the development section "some of the team's staff spent 2 weeks in the Hong Kong alongside the art leads" - maybe something like some of the team's staff spent two weeks in Hong Kong alongside the art leads or something similar? Some parts of the development section could do with a copy edit, if you plan to get it to FA I could help with some of the prose side of things? Hope some of this helps. ☠ Jag  uar  ☠ 19:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, ! About the citations, I usually only add in citations when I'm done with the draft, so that way I focus more on text quality than how it looks. The only thing that kinda bugs me is, like you said, some of the text needs copy editing, specially the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th paragraphs all are a bit difficult to understand (prose). But overall, I'm pretty confident I'll be able to finish rewriting those parts by next week (rewriting paragraphs kill your time), as I'm currently working a lot. Again, thanks for all the feedback! URDNEXT (talk) 20:14, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Re:Barnstar
Many thanks! And good luck with that Sleeping Dogs collaboration. I look forward to seeing it at FAC. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 23:26, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem. Keep up your great work at the project! And hopefully, by next week we should see Dogs at FAC. Also, are you actually retired from the site? Ceasar (talk) 23:28, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * No. I never mentioned retirement from Wikipedia, although a lot of people seem to have taken it that way. I retired specifically from writing articles, after "Looking Glass Studios video games" passed GTC. In other words, I won't be writing any more articles like Flight Unlimited or doing content creation during collaborations like Maniac Mansion. The post-retirement edits I made to my recent FACs Flight Unlimited II, Thief II: The Metal Age and Flight Unlimited III were little more than finishing touches on already-complete articles. Even though I won't be generating much in the way of content anymore, I'll still be around WPVG to provide the occasional prose review or copyedit, or to scan materials from the WP:VG/RL—stuff like that. I'm content with a more behind-the-scenes role now. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 23:51, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, I get it now! Hopefully I'll see your input at the Sleeping Dogs FAC when the time comes! Ceasar (talk) 23:56, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Re: Sleeping Dogs FA
I'm not that up on the game, but as long as it's just prose and refs, I'm willing to help. I'll take a look at it and read through it. On that note, I took a look at the refs and glaring great red messages were there about references being present in the reference list without being used in the text. Is this a mistake or some unfinished work? By the way, some input on the GA nomination for the Tales series, such as helping the thing pass, would be much appreciated. The user who took up the review is busy and it's been over a week since the last update on that page, and I worked my fingers off trying to get the article in a descent state. --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:50, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The main problem with the article is the development section, which because of the delays and cancellation of the game, interfere with the design and audio subsections. I suggest you take a look at my draft for the section (User:URDNEXT/sandbox) which is gonna be used once the review is over. Thanks, ! URDNEXT (talk) 18:55, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Easier to reply on your page than to keep making sections on mine. Yeah, I still think the prose needs work. I can still help, but I'm curious why I was left out of the GAN despite actively contributing to the article. czar ♔   23:54, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think you were left out. Do you mean appear as a nominator? URDNEXT (talk) 23:55, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Right—not a big deal. I'll keep going with the edits. Is your new development section ready to go? czar ♔   00:00, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Kinda. It would be helpful if I was already a master at writing proses; Im still experimenting and learning a lot of things, so that leads to me taking my time with the section. It would be massively helpful if you could give me a hand on the writing, since that would make things not only faster, but better. What's needed is to rewrite the 1st, 3rd, and the rest of the section in order for it to flow well. I also want the employee count (180->60->120) to be updated throughout the article as the events of the development are told, rather than the summary in the current article version. What do you think, ! URDNEXT (talk) 00:06, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Only way to get better is to try. Ping me when you have a final draft and I'll take a look. I'll work on the other sections in the meantime. czar ♔   00:14, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright, I recommend amping up the paragraph in reception about the open world, and finding a new image for gameplay to replace the first one in the section. That pic feels kind of useless. I think an image about the action hijack feature would be more interesting. My draft is at User:URDNEXT/sandbox in case you wanna watch it. URDNEXT (talk) 00:17, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Super Mario Bros. 3
I made a couple of edits to this article just now, and I've decided I'm okay with helping you with it. It's high-quality enough already that I don't feel the need to devote excessive man-hours to bump it from a GA to an FA, but I'll help with any tasks that are deemed necessary if you want. Just have to get around to slogging through my two grammar sections and I'll be free to take on more projects. Tezero (talk) 19:26, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! What we need is the reception section to be organized because of the retorspective and modern reviews, and the release secrion to be fleshed out. URDNEXT (talk) 01:12, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Have you collected the original release reviews yet? czar ♔   01:17, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Here, look for JimmyBlackwings comments. URDNEXT (talk) 01:26, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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