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Content removal
Please note that I reverted your removal of the navigation box from Mike Van Raaphorst as there was no explanation given for its removal. --Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:12, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Pacific-12 Conference football award navboxes
UW Dawgs, happy new year. I've nominated three navboxes that you recently created for deletion. Please see the discussion here: Templates for discussion. Thanks and all the best, Jweiss11 (talk) 16:49, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Sonicsgate. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. SudoGhost 18:50, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
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 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * See discussion initiated on Talk:Sonicsgate UW Dawgs (talk) 18:55, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

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Pacific-12 Player of the Year
Just being bold. I'll inform you if I decide to open a discussion.--Yankees10 07:23, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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NFL Draft section format
Hey, I saw that you're a contributor to college football articles, so could you leave your opinion here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject College football. I'm trying to get responses. Kobra98 (talk) 05:19, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

12th man (football)
Appreciate the advice but there was nothing in my edits at 12th man (football) that constitute "vandalism". In fact, I provided explanation and justification for each change I made and those were based on the actual content of the recently provided reference sources. There were claims made based allegedly on those sources when in fact, the source information actually refuted the claims being made. As such, it is reasonable to edit the article to match the information within these sources. Thank you.Macae (talk) 06:19, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

In reference to your edit at Indianapolis Colts Ring of Honor, my edits were in reference to comments made by Shane Hinckley, Director Collegiate Licensing Texas A&M System, regarding current legal proceedings with the Indianapolis Colts. Thanks NoOpinionsJustFacts (talk) 21:20, 1 February 2014 (UTC) NoOpinionsJustFacts
 * See talk page. UW Dawgs (talk) 03:01, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Your continued support of Randolph Duke, a Texas fan who is a well-known internet troll that has made a personal crusade to bash and destroy everything and anything "Aggie" is troubling, as is your repeated use of "cited material" that is nothing more than the user citing himself. This is the equivalent of allowing Osama Bin Laden to edit pages related to Israel, Judaism, the United States, or anything that doesn't subscribe to Wahabbi Islam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.132.44.241 (talk) 00:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note, the related 12th man (football) article is now in protected mode due to the level of edit warring by anon IPs, sock puppets (WP:PUPPET), and such. FYI. You're welcome to create an account and/or join the discussion. UW Dawgs (talk) 03:01, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

just wanted to add that I noticed Randolph Duke is editing Texas A&M 12th Man related pages. I don't normally question the motivations of Wiki edits but in this case the guy is a blatant internet troll who went to the University of Texas (A&M's major rival FYI) who goes around to various message boards/articles/and comment sections, all under the same name, with the specific intent to bash A&M.

You can find examples of him doing these things with these links

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-military-schools.php/3 in the comments section

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/141664-aggy-spreads-their-cheeks-on-the-national-stage/page9 a Texas message board

http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/showthread.php?109523-The-Top-Ten-Things-You-Didn-t-Know-About-Texas-A-amp-M/page2 posted on a La Tech message board just before A&M played them in 2012

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2014/1/27/5348976/12th-man-history-texas-am-aggies-e-king-gill-seattle-seahawks# again you can find him in the comments section

I just can't see letting him edit A&M related pages when he so clearly has a seemingly obsessive bias. Kentatm (talk) 19:32, 2 February 2014 (UTC)kentatm
 * Usernames aren't proof of identity or intent. Wikipedia has robust policies on WP:Conflict of interest issues. As of 7 January 2014 (25 days ago), welcome to Wikipedia! UW Dawgs (talk) 19:49, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

A username by itself is not proof of identity. However, in this case, there's a known pattern and consistencies across multiple platforms. His edits have absolutely nothing to do with ensuring accuracy; rather the need to "Bring Aggy down". THIS is the actual person http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_13651540 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.132.44.241 (talk) 20:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

understood on the Wiki username policy but I just wanted to bring to your attention that the specific username Randolph Duke has a long history of attacking Texas A&M on the internet. Perhaps it is not enough to ban him from editing A&M related articles however I do think it should be noted that specific name has been involved in countless attacks on A&M in many different internet locations. Is it possible that multiple people use that name and have all happened to constantly attack A&M? Sure. But the odds of that are... well... Just a heads up is all. Thanks for responding so quickly. :-) Kentatm (talk) 20:19, 2 February 2014 (UTC)kentatm

Randolph Duke, A/K/A CHARLES M. SATTERFIELD, graduate of the University of Texas at Austin, first semester Fall 1980 last semester Fall 1984, BACHELOR OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION major PETROLEUM LAND MANAGEMENT Dec 22, 1984, is a well known A&M detractor. His identity may be readily discovered using his IP address. He will likely cause you more trouble than his ability to edit is worth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccrex (talk • contribs) 17:28, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I welcome (yet another) WP:SPA and possible WP:PUPPET with a minute edit history, solely focused on TAMU, coming to my talk page to "warn" me about a human I've neither met, nor corresponded with. UW Dawgs (talk) 17:46, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * How is Mesko perhaps the most famous interloper?   — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimpsonsDidIt (talk • contribs) 05:24, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

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By the way, based on the 12th Man section above, it appears you have some major issues with a certain school from Texas. Your most recent attacks lend further support to your bias and raise very serious questions about your ability to edit in a constructive manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.187.169 (talk) 03:11, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Wkoppel
In case you hadn't seen it - these aren't new issues: Link. JohnInDC (talk) 02:46, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Reverted
Hi thank you for your message

I have reverted your decision to revert my edits.

I hope you don't mind but I have now listed the reason for these changes in the edit summery.

Kind regards Lukejordan02 (talk) 04:09, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

May 2014
I have reverted an edit you made to Indianapolis Colts. A discussion was brought up to include or not include him in retired jerseys on the article's talk page. It is not officially retired by the Colts and should be left out. Chambr (talk) 22:35, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Super Bowl XLVIII
Hi, I saw you reverted the anonymous edits to Super Bowl XLVIII earlier today. The weird thing is, the IP was technically correct, since one of the turnovers was a fumble. I realise the IP's wording was a little – well – crappy, but we shouldn't be saying that Kaepernick threw three interceptions in the fourth quarter if he didn't. – PeeJay 19:10, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Max Unger
I thought about that. If there were only two Max Ungers, I would have given the ball player preference, but with three? That would require two hatnotes on every article. I dunno...I'm sure someone will change it at some point. I'm going to make certain that every reference to him leads to his article, not the dab page. (Max doesn't exactly look like he's headed to the Football Hall of Fame, anyway) WQUlrich (talk) 21:34, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * PS: Most of the links that lead to the dab page seem to be connected to navboxs (three, maybe four) if those were changed, all those links would disappear...but I can't figure out how to change them. WQUlrich (talk) 21:49, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yah, I'm having second thoughts myself, going through all these links. Now, however, I'm afraid I'll really mess things up trying to undo it. WQUlrich (talk) 22:07, 23 June 2014 (UTC) (How do we take care of the disambiguation page?, for example) WQUlrich (talk) 22:10, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Feel free to involve an administrator in this...If he/she can tell me how to undo this without really screwing everything up, I certainly will. My apologies...(can you guess that I'm not a sports fan?) WQUlrich (talk) 22:16, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I hate to sit by while someone cleans up after me...let me know if I can assist. I use library computers, so I only have an hour left today, then I won't be back until 11:00 AM (PDT) tomorrow. WQUlrich (talk) 22:31, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Discussion
Thanx for the heads-up... Not only do I agree with you, I am opposed to User:Msjraz64 going ahead and making the changes he has recommended... GWFrog (talk) 23:44, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

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The statement that I added contains no original research and is a reliable source. Thank you.Macae (talk) 13:23, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

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Most weeks number 1
Hey, I've edited that page the past several years (including defending it from an idiot mob wanting to delete it for fun). Thanks for the additions, edits, etc. I think it's a fun stat that people like to discuss. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.45.122.180 (talk) 17:48, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey UW Dawgs
Dude, why did you delete my comment about the oregon ducks beating the Washington Huskies? The Huskies suck, and get crushed by the ducks every year. You should be absolutely ashamed of deleting that. Oh well, I guess it's just another butthurt huskies fan. Your team is bad and you should feel bad. Keep calm and keep on sucking huskies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdroel (talk • contribs) 20:13, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

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I undid your edit at Warren Moon because according to the template information for the Player Infoboxes at WPNFL, only the most recent college before entering the NFL is supposed to be listed. Chambr (talk) 02:44, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

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Just saw your 3RR report
What the hell kind of bullshit was that? First of all, I was altering the text of my comment (which was perfectly legitimate) to address the concerns brought up by Arkon, therefore there wasn't multiple reversions. Secondly, my comment on Arkon's talk page, which you eagerly documented despite it having nothing to do with reversions, was a direct response to this edit summary, which you didn't mention at all in your attempt to smear my character. And what was all that nonsense about the totally unrelated edits on the previous day? You should be ashamed of yourself. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:03, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Notability of List of professional football players who spent their entire career with one franchise
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Best wishes for 2016 . ..
UW Dawgs, may you continue to make Wikipedia a better place in the New Year. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:13, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Fairleigh Dickinson Women's Basketball
I see that you helped fix a broken link in the article, Fairleigh Dickinson Knights women's basketball. Can you please help me fix the link that isn't working, for the current 2015-16 team in the infobox?
 * Done.
 * 2015–16 Fairleigh Dickinson Knights women's basketball team (correct)
 * 2015-16 Fairleigh Dickinson Knights women's basketball team (wrong)
 * It was the difference between an hyphen (-) and an endash (–), see WP:DATERANGE for more context. UW Dawgs (talk) 21:24, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Motörhead discography
Thank you! Please, do. Hark01 (talk) 09:55, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Reversion of the removal of a "well-cited paragraph"
Hi. I don't understand your edit here. What were you trying to revert? I have restored the edit, and no references have been removed. There are 95 references now, same as 95 references in the previous version.

Also, "CE" as an edit summary means "copy edit". See WP:ESL. I explained what I was doing – copy editing the references and moving to the bottom. epicgenius (talk) 18:29, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * 1. My edit (revert to inclusion of another editor's content) was in fact, NOT undone. So I'm unsure if you are confused, trolling, or both. 2. The content which you have 3x blanked, has achieved thematic consensus for inclusion. UW Dawgs (talk) 19:52, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

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The Cult
Please stop your vandalism on The Cult. Just because articles for Grant Fitzpatrick and Damon Fox don't exist doesn't mean they should be linked and the Damon Fox article redirected to some movie clearly isn't the same guy from The Cult. MetalDiablo666 (talk) 16:03, 27 June 2016 (UTC)'
 * I posted WP:REDLINK on your Talk, the article Talk, and in the reverting comments. You are engaged in disruptive editing.  Please familarize yourself with REDLINK. UW Dawgs (talk) 16:50, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

RfC on inclusion of meeting between AG and Bill Clinton
Thank you for your post at this RfC. Would you mind adding Include or Exclude as appropriate at the beginning to make it easier to see your input?CFredkin (talk) 17:39, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Regarding your "thanks"
Dawgs... we're gonna get along just fine. I'm a Pac-12 Homer... FIGHT ON!  Kamel Tebaast  05:34, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

2602:306:C475:4D20:: highway editor
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Spurious?
Why is 'Lizard' able to post data on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_College_football talk page, and I am not? The vast majority of my post was legitimate and in response to some incorrect information that he posted. A quick look at his page lets you know that he is an avid lsu fan, and therefore has a definite bias attitude in this matter. Had he not insulted me and made personal assumptions about me, I would not have done the same. Please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pncomeaux (talk • contribs) 19:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
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Proposed deletion of Lochtegate


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 * Removed Prod, as allowed. Article is clearly about all four swimmers. GNG in play. UW Dawgs (talk) 16:18, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

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List of scandals with "-gate" suffix reversion
I re-added my change with citations (the same three as in the main article) as instructed on my talk page. What did I do wrong to get it reverted again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.37.66 (talk) 04:01, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I self reverted my edit (restored your edit) as the term is cited on the linked article. Defer to other editors if they see fit to alter the text, etc.  Cheers, UW Dawgs (talk) 04:06, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

David Carr consensus
What is the current consensus? Nobody but me, Lizard, and crash have discussed this issue. Me and Lizard appear to be, for the most part, in agreement. We either include both pieces of information or we remove both. I'm fine with either option. Crash is the one who is dead set on removing the draft legacy part and keeping the super bowl ring information. I've argued that David Carr's bust legacy is far more relevant than him winning a Super bowl ring as a backup QB. If that piece of information is to be included in the intro, then the draft legacy must be included as well based on relevancy alone. Me and Lizard are in agreement on this. Look at my talk page where we discussed that. Then as I laid out my reasoning, Crash abandoned his argument. He said he doesn't care anymore and that we can delete the article. So it appears the consensus is to include both pieces of information or remove both. I'm fine with either option. As a result, I've edited it to include the bust legacy, but now I have you reverting my edits. What is your deal? Manning954 (talk) 17:12, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Nice catch on this sock. JohnInDC (talk) 21:26, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Editor was blocked for 3RR, then indef blocked as Sock. UW Dawgs (talk) 04:06, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, you're the guy who sniffed it out, so well done. JohnInDC (talk) 10:42, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * JohnInDC, UW Dawgs. I'm not even sure I'm even allowed to have another account. My accounts were banned, but IP wasn't, so before they ban this one, I just wanted to let you guys know my side of the story. If you are interested, you can read the appeal I wrote on here:User talk:Edday1051, which was shockingly denied(obvious sarcasm). I'll rehash most of the same stuff here. Some of the main points being that I never tried to hide the fact that I had multiple accounts. I didn't even know sock puppetting was a thing. I never used multiple accounts to pose as multiple people in any dispute I've ever had, which there were only a handful of disputes in the 4-5 years I've edited on wikipedia. In the case of the David Carr article, the last edit I made with Edday1051 on that article was years ago. Specifically a 2013 edit, which was actually a legit edit regarding his free agent status. Prior to that, admittedly, I have made troll edits on that article, the last one which was in 2011. All of the recent edits on that article were made by my secondary account manning954, which were all made in good faith. I mean considering the current article has the draft bust information included, which is how this whole thing started shows that they were made in good faith. Apparently, if I make those same edits, it is considered "trolling" and "disruptive." One of you other users make the same edits and it is perfectly fine. This is what frustrated me about that whole thing and caused me to engage in those constant reverts. It just seemed ridiculous that adding something as pertinent as noting "David Carr is considered to be a draft bust" in the intro was considered to be so highly controversial that people kept reverting those edits. Especially when juxtaposed to the "super bowl ring as a backup," which is indisputably far less relevant and was continuously added to the intro with absolutely no dispute at all.


 * Apparently, if you make edits that contain information that is even remotely negative, it is considered "disruptive," which is absolutely ridiculous. Wikipedia articles are meant to be neutral, but that in no way means that information that doesn't portray the subject of the article in a good light should be prohibited. Knowing that these were "contentious" edits, I would use my secondary accounts to deal with those edits, as I didn't want to deal with that with my main account, but never was it my intention to make it look like I was multiple users, evidenced by the fact that I never used my other accounts to sway a dispute by adding a comment to back another account. And also, you could of just asked if that was my other account. There was no need to go all sherlock holmes on this lmao. I would have admitted that on the spot. I have never tried to hide that fact. If I knew you couldn't have multiple accounts, I wouldn't have done it and or at the very least, I would have made a note of it. I thought all these accounts were logged to a single IP address, so all this time I've used those separate accounts, I've never had an issue, so I never for a second thought having multiple accounts was against the rules. All in all, no hard feelings here. It is what it is and I just wanted to let you know my side of the story. Budden30 (talk) 07:39, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, the reason I considered and warned you for disruptive editing was the fact that you would revert edits removing the information without talking on the article talk page, nor the project talk page. You just reverted and reverted and accused and coped a major attitude when someone didn't agree with you. That was the disruptive parts. Had you followed guidelines and gained consensus, it would've been a much more pleasant discussion for all involved, but you didn't. (talk page stalker)  Crash Under  ride  11:05, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree. It wasn't "making edits containing information that was remotely disruptive" but rather your insistence that you and you alone were right, relying on a phantom "consensus" to justify your persistence.  Further, sock puppet issues aside, since you are now continuing to edit within the 72 period of your edit warring block, I expect this new account will be blocked again.  JohnInDC (talk) 11:46, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Crash, we've gone over this a million times. I have in the past, edited in Carr's draft legacy into the intro. It has been removed a number of times consistently. Where were you to revert those removals and call for "consensus." Oh right, that only applies to me and my edits. It doesn't apply to anyone else who has removed information from the intro. And John, for the time being, there was a consensus. Me and Lizard agreed that we should either include or remove both pieces of information from the intro. Crash could not refute my argument for the inclusion of the draft legacy in the intro, particularly in the presense of the far less relevant "winning a super bowl ring as a backup" in there in the intro....then he threw a hissy fit and left the discussion. You can see that on manning954 talk page and the NFL wikiprojects talk page. You can also see that it was discussed on this article's talk page as well and again, Crash could not refute what I said and failed to respond. It seemed that was the "okay" to go ahead and include the draft legacy in the intro and so I did. Then here comes UW Dawgs like a white knight out of thin air to go ahead and revert my edit and the shitshow began. I get banned for "sock puppetting" and at the end of the day, the draft legacy gets included in the intro. So we end up doing exactly what I proposed with my first edit that started this whole saga off. Go on and continue this myth that this was about "my insistence about being right" or about "not communicating on talk pages." That is comically false. Budden30 (talk) 12:23, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's not whether or not I could refute you, but the fact I refused to. I got sick and tired of dealing with your behavior. Also, no it didn't involve just your edits. I started a discussion about the edits, you never got involved but kept on with your edits, which I viewed as being disruptive and reported you. I stopped responding because no matter what I said, you would piss and moan. Now, drop this, you're gonna get blocked again. As I said, put it or don't, I don't give a damn anymore. Oh and don't lie saying you "didn't even know sock puppetting was a thing." (talk page stalker)  Crash Under  ride  12:43, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Crash, I'm the one that has the attitude? Let's see where this all started. You reverted my edit of removing the Super bowl information, which I still maintain doesn't belong in the intro due to it's lack of relevancy. I wrote this on manning954 talk page:   "What is your deal? I removed minor information that doesn't belong in the intro. I had information regarding his draft bust status removed and that is far more relevant to David Carr's football career than the fact that he won a super bowl ring as a backup QB on the Giants. How is that relevant enough for the intro? Especially considering he didn't play a single snap that season. He literally didn't play a single snap, you can look it up. Not even a single garbage time snap. Manning954 (talk) 08:41, 19 August 2016 (UTC)"


 * Seems like I was pretty cordial there. Then you respond with: "You see it's simple, everyone on a teams roster gets a Super Bowl ring, no matter if they played a single snap or zero. They were on a Super Bowl winning team, therefore, they are Super Bowl champions. Just like how equipment managers, trainers, etc. get rings also. And the regarding the draft bust information, a) you were told multiple times why it was removed, b) you were told also how and where to include it to make it work and c) you've been a bit of a jerk, not responding, etc. So, now maybe you'll get it through your skull that things aren't done the way you want them to be done, but a certain, proper way. CrashUnderride 12:42, 19 August 2016 (UTC)"


 * Oh right it's so simple. EVERYONE gets a ring. I can just feel the attitude and sass coming out of your fingers as you type that. Oh everyone gets a ring. Oh I had no idea. I mean jesus christ, you explained that to me like I started watching the NFL a week ago like JohnInDC......I'm just kidding John. Regardless of the sassy way you said it, it's not even a valid argument. That doesn't refute the fact that he's a backup QB and that mentioning super bowl rings in the intro is not standard. There are starting players that don't have information pertaining to Super Bowls won in their intros. Despite that, I was willing to compromise and said the super bowl information can be left in the intro AS LONG as the draft bust legacy is included in the intro as well. Seems like a pretty fair compromise there, but not to you guys who wanted to get into a dick measuring contest. I added the draft bust legacy in there, which is FAR more relevant information pertaining to David Carr and then you guys took the express train to revert city. Apparently, it is perfectly fine for you guys to revert and remove perfectly relevant and well sourced information from the intro. I do it and WW3 starts. Budden30 (talk) 12:55, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Is sock puppetting a common thing people know about? Sorry man, I don't read all the rules and regulations of wikipedia like you wiki experts. I maintained and edited with three different account for years. Why would I continue to do that if I knew I could get banned from that considering I've used all three accounts from the same computer and IP address? Secondly, you refused to respond because you had nothing to respond with. You could not possibly refute the fact that David carr's draft bust legacy is FAR more relevant than him winning a Super Bowl ring as a back up QB. This is indisputable. Not even Johnny Cochran would have argued against that. Don't get it twisted man, you left the discussion because you nothing to respond with. And when you leave an argument, you concede. It's really simple right? Never got involved? There's three talk pages: The NFL wikiproject talk page, Manning953 talk page, and this talk page here where we have directly discussed this issue. What the hell are you talking about? I love how you have nothing to refute my claims, so you just resort to threats of bans. That is your only weapon here. You're pathetic. Budden30 (talk) 13:04, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Now, if we were talking about Ryan Leaf, sure include, after all, he only played, how many years? Or Jamarcus Russell for the same reason. But Carr's had a decent career, nothing stellar. But was around for what, 14 years? Maybe include the bust info as long as it's not worded so harshly, like "one of the biggest busts of all-time", blah, blah, blah. See my point, the way you've worded time after time sounds like it's trying to negate a career that spanned more than a decade, something most busts don't do. I mean, let's be honest, they just don't, but he did. (talk page stalker)  Crash Under  ride  14:08, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * yeah no shit man. Leaf and Russell are arguably the top 2 biggest busts in NFL history. Those guys were just complete flame outs. Calling them one of the biggest busts would be an understatement. No doubt they are well above Carr in the bust rankings, but you make it sound like Carr isn't worthy of being called a bust. When you compile all the top draft picks, especially number one overall picks and quarterbacks in particular who are scrutinized even more due to the position and worth to a franchise, Carr is easily one of the "biggest" draft busts in NFL history. You keep getting caught up in these petty words and descriptions as if they are personal attacks. These are the facts and numerous rankings have Carr as one of the "top" or "biggest" draft busts. The sources/citations are listed and there are numerous others you can google. You act as if I just made this up out of thin air. Carr was in the NFL for 11 seasons. 6 of those seasons were as a backup QB. You are a number one overall pick and you spend more than half your career as a backup. That alone makes you one of the biggest busts. And that's at quarterback where he's holding a clipboard. At least if you are a backup running back, wide receiver, or linebacker, etc, you are at least getting playing time rotating in...a la Reggie Bush. He was horrible in Houston, granted he had a horrible line, but guess what, good quarterbacks especially ones worthy of a number one overall pick will make it work and make everyone around them better. Get the ball out quicker and/or evade the rush. Guys like Aaron Rodgers and Roethlisberger have had mediocre lines their whole careers and they are two of the most sacked quarterbacks...and yet they are two of the most successful QBs in recent history. You can talk about how bad the line was in Houston, but what did Carr do once he left Houston? Oh right, he held a clipboard for the rest of his career. It's just puzzling to me that any of you finds this controversial. I've never met any one that follows the NFL that thought David Carr was anything but a major bust. Budden30 (talk) 16:22, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

September 2016
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Contested deletion
I am not the original author of the content on User:UW Dawgs which User:Toddst1 has removed by (necessarily) blanking the page, causing it to revert to its initial state (four apostropes).

Special:Contributions/64.134.17.53 created that content in 2014 and Toddst1 removed it, today. I have twice restored that content to the page, in 2015 and again today.

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So does that content fail WP:UPNOT ("What may I not have in my user pages?") in any way?

And how specifically would the WP:G3 policy even apply, wrt to its only listed criteria of misinformation, hoaxes, and redirects?

And I do explicitly WP:AGF. UW Dawgs (talk) 23:40, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, G3 covers "vandalism" as well, and such comments usually are vandalism. May want to put a notice on User:UW Dawgs/Editnotice that it ain't vandalism. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:38, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 * How exactly is that nonsense appropriate for a user page?   Toddst1 (talk) 22:18, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 * What is the "nonsense" criteria within WP:G3? UW Dawgs (talk) 01:07, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * G3 says, in full, "This applies to pages that are blatant and obvious misinformation, blatant hoaxes (including images intended to misinform), and redirects created by cleanup from page-move vandalism. Articles about notable hoaxes are acceptable if it is clear that they are describing a hoax." As I asked above, what is the misinformation, hoax, or redirect within that text? UW Dawgs (talk) 01:07, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

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Ragin Cajuns
My edits of today are not edit warring, or in violation of the 'consensus.' If it is already established that the team being mentioned is the Cajuns, there is no need to include 'Louisiana-Lafayette' again. 'Louisiana-Lafayette' does not HAVE to be included in EACH and EVERY mention of the school.Pncomeaux (talk) 14:09, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Louisiana–Lafayette
I have a feeling that we'll be dealing with these kind of edits for months to come... I saw your comment on their page, but I don't think it'll do any good! Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 13:56, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I was kinda hoping he finally dropped the stick. Guess I should've known better. Lizard  (talk) 21:11, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * He is a user "that never ends"... Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 22:12, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * So eager to push his agenda he doesn't even bother to spellcheck. I'm just an evil LSU fan though, so what do I know. Lizard  (talk) 22:46, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Pncomeaux
Yeah, they're a problem. I left them a very polite message:

Here's the deal about the situation with Louisiana–Lafayette Ragin' Cajuns football. The way it works is this, we when talking about a sports team in the article we don't refer to the teams by the team name, but rather the city Dallas Cowboys as Dallas or school so the Ragin' Cajuns as Louisiana–Lafayette. Go look at all the Good Article status articles, see that they aren't mentioned as Cowboys or Rajin' Cajuns, or whatever the name may be. I feel that you need to refrain from these types of edits and discuss them in a calm and rational manner lest you be blocked for edit warring. (talk page stalker)  Crash Under  ride  00:15, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

And they replied by just removing it from their talk page without saying anything else. Childish reaction to very polite message. I've seen this behavior before. (talk page stalker)  Crash Under  ride  00:37, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

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McElhenny
Not sure how much you're into content creation, but I'll be working on Hugh McElhenny over the next ~week as part of my campaign to get Million Dollar Backfield (San Francisco 49ers) to good topic status. And since I only just realized what the "UW" in your name stands for, maybe you'd be interested in pitching in. Looks like he's the only Husky in the Pro and College halls of fame, and he had some pretty crazy stats for his time period. Like a 296-yard, five-touchdown game against Wazzu in 1950. Lizard (talk) 22:40, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see above that you have much more important matters to attend to. Lizard  (talk) 06:02, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, :) The story goes that Hugh took a pay cut to play for the 49ers. UW Dawgs (talk) 06:06, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, he really did get benefits from the university. I was expecting it to be unfounded rumors. Still a great player though. I'm wondering where to place this in the article. Lizard  (talk) 21:49, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton e-mail controversy
You removed this because? Newsweek reported that 22 million e-mails, including critical ones making decisions to enter into the Iraq War, were allegedly "lost" from the administration of George W. Bush Different source, statement and perspective. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:11, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Kudos
Kudos for your work this week in building out season articles for Colorado and Utah. That's a lot of work in a short time. Any interest in doing the same for UW's Apple Cup rival on the east side of the state? Or maybe the Sun Devils? Those two programs are probably in the sorest need of work among the Pac-12 programs. Cbl62 (talk) 19:46, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, intent was to focus on Pac-12 across multiple article types since they leverage similar templates. UW Dawgs (talk) 19:48, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

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College football standings templates
UW Dawgs, thanks for you work of late. You've probably notice that I've reverted a bunch of your edits to college football standings templates, e.g. Template:2016 Mountain West Conference football standings. The first argument of Template:CFB Standings Start (a sub-template within) must have value that is the same as the name of the standings template. Otherwise those V, T, E links malfunction. There may be a better solution here that entails editing the code of Template:CFB Standings Start so that it automatically pulls the the standings template name to drive those links. Jweiss11 (talk) 00:23, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, forgot about the V/T/E issue. Will make another pass at these to standardize within the parent Cat(s). No opinion on strict adherence to formal/longer vs infornal/short name strings, but wrapping/legibility is a concern and the full conf name is displayed within the infobox immediately above the standings template in most cases. UW Dawgs (talk) 15:56, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

3rd opinion
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Dynamic dating on college football standings template

 * Welcome, as I too bashed my head on that particular rock! At the end of the season we should blank or hard code the date for future edits re team links, forfeits, and such to avoid the dating being odd. UW Dawgs (talk) 03:32, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

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We will carve our name in the Hall of Fame
Looks like the gold with the purple stripes down the sleeves was the look for well over a decade (1910s to 1920s). Here is a good action shot c. 1919, and here is a team picture. Look the same in 1915 and in 1922. The date with Stanford starts to loom large this year. Cake (talk) 23:54, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * FYI, Lizard is putting in work on Hugh McElhenny. Is the blue on his trading card what you had in mind? Cake (talk) 16:39, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Missed Lizard's above comment. What got you interested in Julius Evola? He and Oswald Spengler would be on a shortlist of favorite writers for me. Cake (talk) 18:29, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Botched WP:3O as seen on Talk:Julius Evola/Archive 1. Don't claim any knowlege of the person or situation, just noticed they were missing an obvious resolution. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:50, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Some enlightenment
In case you were wondering if some people had a misunderstanding of what constitutes "rivalries," I present to you this IP, which I suspect is the same as this IP and is probably User:Brownsfan677. Lizard (talk) 15:37, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
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Geaux Dogs
Impressive showing against Stanford. With USC and Oregon having down years looks like the Huskies are carrying the Pac-12's torch this season. I've had mad respect for Washington fans ever since you guys packed Tiger Stadium a few years ago. I was floored by how many made the trip, and weren't intimidated at all. Really nice people as well. I'm just glad we're not playing each other this year. Lizard (talk) 03:26, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Chris Petersen is a great coach, but watch out for Utah. Cake (talk) 03:28, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I think I'll stick with my bet. Lizard  (talk) 02:40, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

California football years redirects
Hi UW Dawgs, thanks for your continuos edits on the Golden Bears football article (especially with the recent changing the university links to football team links). I wanted to talk to you about the year redirects which (I think) you created. Previously the non-existed articles where in red in the navbox which made it very clear that there was no article for that year, now they appear in blue indicating that there is an article, but the link takes you back to the page. When I am editing articles this often indicates that there is an issue. Would you consider us taking out the redirects for that reason? Rybkovich (talk) 18:34, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of 1922 Washington State Cougars football team for deletion
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Early Arizona teams
I note you are moving the early teams to reflect "Varsity" as the nickname. This seems odd. Pretty much every team in those days had a freshman team and a "varsity" team. But those weren't official nicknames, but rather mere statements of descriptive fact. Do you have any sources showing the UA used "varsity" as an official team nickname? Cbl62 (talk) 17:59, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * edit conflict. See your Talk, its the official nickname, not a Fresh/JV/V type callout. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:00, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * FYI, 1914 forward is "Arizona Wildcats," 1913 and prior is "Arizona Varsity" (as a nickname, not a V vs JV callout. This is supported in RS, including here.  So I have moved associated articles and updated text.  Hope that context helps.  Cheers, UW Dawgs (talk) 17:58, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I doubt that an article from the student newspaper written years after the fact is really a reliable source. Seems more likely that "varsity" was a descriptive term, much as it was for virtually every other football team in this era. Cbl62 (talk) 18:03, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Having now done some research, I don't find any contemporaneous references suggesting that the 1899 team had an official nickname of Varsity. Moreover, a 1938 history of the early years, found here, is consistent with the notion that there was no official nickname and that the "varsity" (lower case) is a descriptive term rather than an official nickname "The first varsity squad of Wildcats, not so nicknamed for many years to come . . ." Cbl62 (talk) 19:22, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

College football records templates
UW Dawgs, I see you are creating a series of "college football records" templates. I think we need to put a little more thought into these before we churn them out. First, starting no later than 1892, we have conference standings templates, so these should indicate "independent" in some way. Second, these templates are going to get very long in the 1890s and early 1900s, as there were 100+ teams, I believe, competing with no classification as independents in some of those years. Perhaps, these should be broken up regionally? Jweiss11 (talk) 03:04, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree. Context was ensuring "Independent" templates for all modern Pac-12 schools (their early-year articles).  I followed the existing 18xx Cats and naming conventions during this process, which is now complete to my immediate end of support for Pac-12 schools.  So the problem may be larger now with the new standings templates, which can be moved/renamed and given different Cats as appropriate, but the issues aren't new per se.  Will post a note to the CFB Proj. UW Dawgs (talk) 03:12, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

September 2016
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Michael Bennett (disambiguation) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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 * And now I'm laughing at the thought of how many people typed in "Michael Bennett" expecting the football player and instead seeing this guy. Lizard  (talk) 23:21, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep. I cleaned the inbound links to Michael Bennett as part of the original move and a significant number were wrong (there are ~10 Michael Bennett (xxx)" articles, so wrong across multiple genres). It was reverted for semi-reasonable procedural reasons, but is now is listed as a formal move request on the Talk. UW Dawgs (talk) 02:55, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It's admirable the amount of work you put into your initial arguments on RMs, AfDs and such. If it were me I woulda just pointed out that the defensive lineman's page views destroyed the current primary topic and called it a day. Lizard  (talk) 03:30, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Category names for major US cities
Please note that, per Categories for discussion/Log/2016 September 6, te category names ffor several US cities, including Boston, no longer include the state name. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:54, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
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List of Division I FBS independents football standings
the total size of the transcluded templates is too large. usually when this happens, the solution is to split it into subpages (e.g., 1869-1960 and 1961-present). Frietjes (talk) 17:40, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

1894 and 1895 college football independents records
Hi, I closed these discussion as merge. Could you or Jweiss11 do the merging? If you need my help, let me know. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:43, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

List of Montana Grizzlies football seasons
I see that the List of Montana Grizzlies football seasons is under construction, but I added a talk page with class=list, and removed the stub tag at the bottom of the article. Thank you for your excellent and extensive work on college football.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 16:56, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Vote on removing/keeping CFDW
Talk:College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBS Dolenath (talk) 21:58, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Mountain States Conference standings
UW Dawgs, I see you started a bunch of the Mountain States Conference standings templates. This website has the full standings for reference if you want to flesh them out. The conference is listed there as "Skyline" from 1948 onward. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 05:19, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

College football standings templates
UW Dawgs, when you create new standings templates, watch out that you don't reverse the overall and conference record columns. Also, there's no need to put  as a category sort key. I think a few years back it was needed otherwise templates would default sort under T, but it's a latency now. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 00:59, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:1943 college football independents records
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Deletion discussion about 1947 Washington State Cougars football team
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Deletion discussion about 1919 Colorado Silver and Gold football team
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Jim Thorpe Award
Thanks for this, but it's kinda defeating my intention. The vast majority of our awards pages suffer from a lack of independent sources establishing their notability. Verifiability really isn't the issue. Lizard (talk) 17:35, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Tag with Template:Better source? I came across it in context to dubious edits to USC which I verified, so my edits to JTA were just filling in the gaps by year. Understood/agreed re primary source. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:00, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * What would be an appropriate top-of-the-page tag? Inline tags aren't really helpful, since there often aren't any citations at all (see Lombardi Award). Lizard  (talk) 18:05, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * This is a good top-of-page tag Template:Refimprove, if I understand your point. I'd still tag w/Bette Source behind year cite as I though you were looking for a year-specific and 3rd party citation. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:18, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Template:Refexample was created just recently. Seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. Actually, maybe not. Lizard  (talk) 06:33, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy Holidays
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 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Restoring Southern Conference (charter members) / SIAA standings
, could you restore or help restore Clemson Military College / University in the Southern Conference standings (especially since they were charter members) and in the SIAA standings on individual team pages for all years they were removed (they were never Independents with Montana and South Carolina). Previous editors already had it correct, and I also verified it with their sports information office. I am only asking because I am not sure exactly how you changed the templates or if you used WP:HC to do it globally somehow (not familiar with that program), or if it has to be fixed page for page. Thanks bud. SportsEdits1 (talk) 20:36, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, what a mess. I restored what I could (had to reverse edit a few to restore some templates), and added back some citations.  Standings are still incomplete on some pages.  Did what I could.  Happy Holidays, UW.  SportsEdits1 (talk) 22:23, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * While certainly possible, the core issues of WP:V and WP:RS are in play throughout these articles. They are/were poorly sourced at best. Your good-faith discussion with the athletic department is appreciated, but RS are required. Cheers, UW Dawgs (talk) 02:18, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Panthers Seahawks rivalry
Please look at talk page of the page referenced above Newyorksports38 (talk) 16:34, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

SCIAC Standings
Apparently you provided a document for the SCIAC to Jweiss11(http://static.psbin.com/5/m/x5k85yxyitg1pi/SCIACStandings.pdf). It seems like a good reference, but not sure about its overall accuracy. For example, it shows San Diego State and La Verne NOT in the conference in 1926. I've found that information to be incorrect via several sources from that timeframe: Multiple articles in the 1926 San Diego Union and the 1926 LA Times, The San Diego State Yearbook from 1927. I've updated the SCIAC standings for 1926 accordingly. Ocfootballknut (talk) 18:45, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Score format in season article schedule tables
There's currently a discussion ongoing at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football that you may be interested in. Kobra98 (talk) 21:34, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Edit
Hello, I noticed you undid my edits for North Carolina Tar heels football. Those edits include more updated and detailed information, so I restored it. If any mistakes were made in those edits, please help in correcting them, otherwise, please don't undo again. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.198.131.27 (talk) 17:39, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

NBA season templates.
I'm sorry for arguing with you over Template:Oklahoma City Thunder seasons. Thank you for updating both templates. I'm requesting that you or another admin please delete Template:Buffalo Braves seasons & Template:Seattle SuperSonics seasons, as both templates are now not necessary & redundant (the list of seasons in both templates is covered by Template:Los Angeles Clippers seasons & Template:Oklahoma City Thunder seasons). Charlesaaronthompson (talk) Please stop changing my edits on Oklahoma City Thunder seasons. I clearly have cited my changes at the bottom of the page both from ESPN and Basketball Reference. If you keep deleting my edits I will have to pursue legal action. 00:58, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
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You're invited...
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football regarding the issue of whether or not the navboxes in coaching articles should be collapsed or stay as is. Please comment there and not here. Thanks, Corkythe hornetfan  (ping me) 22:46, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Maintenance tags
Hi there. Acting on your report, I warned Chisme a few hours ago about making sure to provide sources for their additions. However, I think it's worth noting that you are being far too liberal with your use of templates warnings and maintenance templates. You should not typically use a templated warning with an experienced user, as it's not very polite. Similarly, if you have issues with content that has just been added to an article by an active editor, it is not terribly helpful to shove a template into it; much better to use the talk page, and explain your issues in detail. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 17:00, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
 * About this article section at the USC Football Trojans article, I appreciate your finding a source instead of just tagging it. I really do appreciate that. I think rather than tags things, the first option should be to try to fix them, as you did in this instance. If I removed that template I did so because I got the impression that some of your templates were inserted arbitrarily. If my impression was wrong, I apologize. Chisme (talk) 21:51, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Mountain West Conference athletic director navbox
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elite 11
hey bud, discuss on elite 11 talk pageEdday1051 (talk) 04:22, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

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you got issues dude
why are you reverting my updates to the infoboxes? Where are the contradictions? The data is straight from the updated rosters on the team websites. User:Yankees10 has reverted your edits. Edday1051 (talk) 02:59, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, Yankees10 corrected your edits (review the diffs) and I already thanked him. UW Dawgs (talk) 03:03, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * oh crap, you're right, which one is the updated page? If you go on his profile page on the official udub football website, Browning's weight is listed at 205. Isn't the 209 weight from last year's profile? Edday1051 (talk) 03:09, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * lmao, no he did revert your edit. I'm all confused over here. I had it right all along. He reverted you dude. Get it straightEdday1051 (talk) 03:12, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * seriously man, what is your problem. You reek of desperation. Yankees10 reverted your edits. Check the diffs. You are causing disruption and it is in your best interest to stop doing so because it can lead to you being blocked. Edday1051 (talk) 03:42, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

"When tagging or removing material for lacking an inline citation, please state your concern that it may not be possible to find a published reliable source for the content, and therefore it may not be verifiable. If you think the material is verifiable, you are encouraged to provide an inline citation yourself before considering whether to remove or tag it." Maybe you should consider following the very guidelines you cite before engaging in combative editing. You and I know you are only doing this because you have some weird obsession with me and your actions are nothing but provocation. Edday1051 (talk) 14:27, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Grey_Jackal
He's a sock of a perma-blocked user. See here. If he continues to be disruptive, he's blockable. JohnInDC (talk) 03:18, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It seemed only a matter of time before he'd begin with the questionable edits. I haven't been following him other than through your comments on his Talk page, and if you think that following him around and double-checking his edits is beginning to take up too much of your (or anyone's) time, you can drop a note to Bagumba at the link above -  JohnInDC (talk) 10:45, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hm. Not accusing, just sayin'.  Bears watching.  JohnInDC (talk) 18:06, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1906–07 in American college basketball


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1907–08 in American college basketball


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Proposed deletion of 1933 Washington State Cougars football team


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Welcome back
Thought you died. Good to see you didn't. Lizard  (talk) 17:28, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Nick Collins
Talk about being picky about everything I do. I'll be sure to add a source if I can find one Nick. I'm pretty sure he was a cornerback which is a specific position unlike defensive back which is a category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.234.65.184 (talk) 01:49, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Don James (American football)
Hi, UW Dawgs. Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate the guidelines, and I've removed items that appeared to be in question. My effort is to be fair, encyclopedic, and objective in my contributions. I've done well with fair and objective, but I'll keep working on encyclopedic. With specific reference to Don James (American football), it is very important that he be represented as he was throughout his life, not as he was at his death. In addition, there is much ambiguity about the circumstances involving Washington between 1992 and 1993. I have personal knowledge (my husband coached with James between 1989 and 1992), and I feel it's important to reflect the truth. At the same time, I do recognize I am perhaps more passionate than some about these matters, so I've revised some of the text back to what it was. Please, if you will, keep the picture that is now posted. This is a better representation of who he was...a strong man of character and integrity at the University of Washington...not an old, frail man in the twilight of his life. Please feel free to contact me any time for further discussion. Again, my attempt is not to disrupt, but to represent truth regarding a man and matters that have oft been misunderstood. Thanks very much for your patience and guidance!Melanyesm (talk) 09:20, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

CE
What does "ce" stand for in your edit summaries? Thank you! AllisonFoley (talk) 03:47, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:COPYEDIT. Typically just refactoring existing text. UW Dawgs (talk) 06:39, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. January 2018
Hey UW Dawgs. Thank you for your diligent, constructive edits toward Washington Huskies football page. Keep it up and let's discuss more about that. I'm thinking about a couple more brief expansions to the "Traditions" section, which may include: Fight songs: Bow Down to Washington, ...; Husky mascots: Dubs (and his retirement), Harry the Husky; "Throw your 'Dubs Up'" tradition. Any thoughts? Also, I'm considering changing "Notable Players" section because it's vague without reasons or citations. And I'm trying to figure out a way to make "Season Awards" section clean. J1n9 (talk) 04:36, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Dead links attempted fix
Hello! Thanks for your information about how to deal with dead links. As for Washington Huskies football page case, this link was dead and removed by me: specifically. However the attempted fix/replacement didn't work as the article could not be located. Thus I left it within the comment. There are several references that were updated -- such as the 2012 NCAA/Washington record book being updated to the 2017 version or so. Let me know if these edits are okay for you! J1n9 (talk) 20:13, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

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Schedules on top of Rosters on CFB Season Pages
Hi UW Dawgs! Could you point me to where wiki says the schedules should be on top of the rosters for CFB season pages? I noticed you re-arranged a handful of pages. Just wanted to make sure everything is in order for my own reference. Thanks! --Zachlp (talk) 15:16, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The fully built "modern" articles such as 2017 Alabama Crimson Tide football team place many sections including rosters above schedules. The contrast I am drawing is with partial, or nearly empty, rosters such as 1927 Drexel Dragons football team.  In these cases the reader is better served with getting the game results above an incomplete/unsourced list of names. Cheers, UW Dawgs (talk) 15:36, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. Makes sense.  As for the empty rosters, my research on these teams will be a somewhat slow process, but I plan to one day have the rosters filled also.  Have a good one! --Zachlp (talk) 14:18, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

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Most Concecutive Games with A NCAA football Score
UW Dogs u r incorrect about an article that u said i had no proof for. Here is proof :http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2737448-florida-breaks-fbs-record-for-most-consecutive-games-without-being-shut-out Florida did this agaonst vanderbilt, meaning that there was 5 games left in the season, making florida have 371 games with a score. IDIOT! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gatorsam1234567891 (talk • contribs) 02:15, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Cowboys–Packers rivalry page
When you said "counting unsourced data doesn't make it sourced," I had, and still don't have, any clue what you meant by that. All those game summaries were cited by ProFootballReference. I simply changed the series to overall instead of by decade. I am not sure why you reverted that edit. Jewel15 (talk) 18:31, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Milwaukee Bucks accomplishments and records
My bad. Apologies. Kleuske (talk) 22:57, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

We don’t smell like poo
I just showered thank you And only poo smells like poo Typerr (talk) 02:49, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

See also sections of standings articles
UW Dawgs, also per the see also items on those standing articles, I deleted items that also appear in the navboxes in the footers of those articles. This is in line with MOS:SEEALSO, which states "As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes". Jweiss11 (talk) 02:49, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Concur, thanks. Self-reverting, now. UW Dawgs (talk) 02:54, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks. Are we on the same page regarding the naming of List of Pac-12 Conference football standings (1916–1958)?  If not, perhaps we should discuss at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football? Jweiss11 (talk) 03:06, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Probably not, as my read of your view doesn't align with Pac-12 Conference treatment or the conference's published view. UW Dawgs (talk) 03:34, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * List of Division I FBS independents football standings (1869–1905) and List of Division I FBS independents football standings (1906–1972) also have anachronistic title. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:15, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed, such issues exist throughout Independents content (including Cats). I have worked on it a bit, including Category talk:NCAA Division I FBS independents football records templates. Have at it, including these article renames. While not impossible, it's trickier than at first glance due to pre-IAAUS, IAAUS, NCAA, Univerity/College div split, Div I, Div I-A/I-AA, and then FBS/FCS. We also lack data around "NCAA membership join date," so much of the content is dubious. UW Dawgs (talk) 03:34, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Ignoring modern Div II and Div III, I see a conceptual "All/highest" grouping and lower "next/College/I-AA/FBS" emerging in 1956. Within the latter, we currently lack suffient content to deeply inform a categorization sturcture. Hence the status quo where almost everthing buckets to FBS. UW Dawgs (talk)

UW-SU rivalry
Hi UWD, the sources I included involved a Seattle Times article that made reference of the rivalry. Quidster4040 (talk) 16:06, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * And your "goseattleu.com" cite does not.,, UW Dawgs (talk) 16:11, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Changes clarification
RE: Changes from Spssb

Hi UW Dawgs, I just joined Wikipedia as a potential contributor and started making some minor edits to update several pages based on recent major projects these people had been involved in. For each of the changes, they were written objectively, used independent sources (e.g. IMDB, major university articles, news outlets, etc), and from a neutral perspective. After about two hours of making edits, it appears they were all deleted.

I went to your profile but it said "You smell like poo!" so I wasn't sure if it was a prank or something. I then found my way to the Kiwiii Forum where I asked other Wikipedia editors how it could have been written better, and they said my contributions were fine. They suggested I message you, and I think this is how to do it. (Again, I’m new to Wikipedia on the editing side.)

It’s of no consequence to me if the deletions aren’t restored, but I don’t really want to spend my time contributing as a Wikipedia editor if most/all the changes—which would always be factual and written impartially—are going to be deleted.

I appreciate any help. Thanks, Kate.

--Spssb (talk) 05:27, 20 May 2018 (UTC)Spssb
 * I posted 4 links on your Talk page at User talk:Spssb, did you have a chance to read them particularly the first one of WP:RS? Your edits reference a press release (WP:RS) and IMDB (WP:CITINGIMDB). UW Dawgs (talk) 03:12, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Not
You are not being helpful. I did not supply any info. Look back and see what occurred. Bleucheeses (talk) 05:10, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I did not add anything to the article. You did not want it in the first paragraph. If you don't stop I will bring this to an admin. Bleucheeses (talk) 05:14, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Please do. See WP:V and WP:3RR UW Dawgs (talk) 05:25, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Ways to improve 1979 Temple Owls football team
Hi, I'm Willsome429. UW Dawgs, thanks for creating 1979 Temple Owls football team!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Some prose expansion and more refs would be nice. Thanks for creating the article and filling in another gap.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Ohio Valley Conference athletic director navbox
Template:Ohio Valley Conference athletic director navbox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Corky 16:45, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Louisville-Virginia Rivalry
I do not feel as though I made a mistake in adding this rivalry. I was not misleading in portraying it based on my references. Please be more descriptive in what you fine inaccurate about it. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nolanwebb (talk • contribs) 13:29, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * See Articles for deletion/Louisville-Virginia football rivalry. UW Dawgs (talk) 14:40, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

CFB NC Problem
Hello UW Dawgs - I see that you have already caught up with the inappropriate edits that User 2600:8805:3800:4340:5161:2B05:A918:BCAB is trying to foist on the Washington football page, but if you look at that editor's Contributions page you'll see that the damage goes rather farther. I'll revert on the Notre Dame football page, but that editor's changes are inconsistent, POV (note that Pitt has "only two" NCs), and overall both unexplained by edit summary and inconsistent with the loads of work that several of us have been trying to do on the Wikipedia article about NCs. I'm posting this here because despite my many years editing here, I have never acquired the mass rollback skills that I think you have. For my money, User 2600:8805:3800:4340:5161:2B05:A918:BCAB would have to justify each change on those articles' Talk pages, or better yet broach the point on the NC page, before making them and causing the disruption that s/he has. So - I think all of 2600:8805:3800:4340:5161:2B05:A918:BCAB edits should be reverted for the moment at least, and I'd like to know what you think. regards, Sensei48 (talk) 16:30, 28 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Never mind - no reply needed here. I see you are WAAAAAY ahead of me. Thanks!  regards, Sensei48 (talk) 16:32, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

July 2018
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Western Kentucky Hilltoppers football, you may be blocked from editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MHS1976 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
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Championship
To win a National Championship in CFB, you have to be in the College football playoff (which UCF didn’t do), and win the semifinals and The National Championship. UCF wasn’t in the playoff and didn’t win the title. Bama did. JohnDelaPena (talk) 18:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You removed UCF's claim from the "National championship claims by school " section, ignoring the existing citation which directly supports UCF's self-claimed title (SB Nation: " UCF declares itself national champions, and is doing everything real champions do after winning"). We list UCF because the school claims it and there are many WP:RS prove that UCF claims it. To the extent this remains unclear, you're welcome to take it to the article Talk. UW Dawgs (talk) 20:21, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

The rivalry (sources should get in the article)
Always enter in the body of the article what the sources say, so that you beef up the article with info as much as possible. Putting quotes in the sources doesn't cut it for such short articles. Don't be shy in entering info in the article itself. Nice rivalry, :-).--1l2l3k (talk) 19:47, 10 August 2018 (UTC)--1l2l3k (talk) 19:47, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Stubs
Jmertel23 (talk) 19:14, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Bow Down
Hey, wanted to say Go Dawgs before the big game this weekend! Squatch347 (talk) 20:21, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Poo talk
As much as I am a kin no unko fan, I feel I should give you a heads-up that others may have a problem with your userpage. It would be a good idea to make it something more collegial in appearance. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:24, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I am aware of WP:POINTY. An IP created the content, another editor repeatedly removed it, there is a process (WP:NOBAN / WP:USERTALKBLOG) for such removal some of which they chose to ignore, they also chose to ignore my Talk reply with policy questions directed to them, then escalated at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive932 which had an abrupt and appropriate conclusion in my view, and then was memorialized at User:Toddst1. Cheers! UW Dawgs (talk) 22:52, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Either way you smell like poo. Not sure you can fix that. Sniff on!   Toddst1 (talk) 03:18, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

BYU/Utah State
I take it you don't watch college football in Utah very often, because if you did, you wouldn't have changed the BYU-Utah State rivalry page info. The name of the game is The Battle for the Old Wagon Wheel, much like Utah State-Utah is The Battle of the Brothers and BYU-Utah is "The Holy War." While it's true that the trophy is the old wagon wheel, it's more than the trophy. It's the actual name of the game- The Battle for the Old Wagon Wheel. Talk to anyone familiar with football in the region, and if you ask them about the BYU-Utah State rivalry they'll point out it applies to all sports, including rugby and lacrosse. If you ask them about The Battle for the Old Wagon Wheel though, then they'll know you're specifically talking about football. Bigddan11 (talk) 16:38, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * See Template:Mountain West Conference football rivalry navbox. Each of these are linked using the name of the article (re WP:COMMONNAME)
 * Beehive Boot
 * Bill Walsh Legacy Game
 * Commander-in-Chief's Trophy
 * Rocky Mountain Showdown
 * Rio Grande Rivalry (football)
 * Battle of the Brothers
 * The article name of the BYU–Utah State football rivalry article is currently "BYU–Utah State football rivalry". Then you changed (only) the link name. If you think the article should be renamed "The Battle for the Old Wagon Wheel" or similar, see WP:MOVE and WP:COMMONNAME. UW Dawgs (talk) 17:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

September 2018
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to UCF Knights football, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you.
 * See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Talophex UW Dawgs (talk) 05:10, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

UCF Knights football
I'm not sure why you think Scott Frost is the tenth coach at UCF, but he's not. No sources state such. Please refrain from re-inserting that into the Scott Frost section of UCF Knights football. Thanks. CalebHughes (talk) 05:04, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CalebHughes UW Dawgs (talk) 02:49, 11 September 2018 (UTC)