User talk:Ucucha

Sorry to drag you back into the world of lemurs...
I hope you've been well. I'm glad to see that you've remained active with Wikipedia, unlike me. Anyway, sorry for the long silence. I'm writing because I started a topic on WP:Animals, and I would appreciate your professional input. It even makes brief mention of you and our work debunking the myth behind the etymology of the word "lemur."

True to my style, the post is long-winded. Sorry about that. Anyway, I'd love to hear from you. &mdash;Maky (talk) 21:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Great to hear from you, hope you are doing well! I responded to the topic. I feel these made-up collective terms are a nuisance and I want to ignore them as much as possible.
 * These days I mostly work on my own database. The rules around synthesis, no original research, verifiability, etc. are probably part of the reason I don't write as much on Wikipedia any more. Those rules are sensible and for an enterprise at Wikipedia's scale there probably is no good alternative to them, but I like the freedom to follow my own judgment in an area I know well. Ucucha (talk) 15:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Camelini, Nordmann, 1850 citation
Hello, I noticed that you added the reference "Nordmann, 1850" to the Camelini page a while back. Do you know what that full citation might be? I am trying to trace it back to a full source. Thanks! Ambuser (talk) 15:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to this edit? Looks like I only moved the citation to the right field; I wasn't the one to add it. It appears in the very first version of the page.
 * I looked in my database and the only Nordmann 1850 is Thalassictis, a fossil hyena. I think what happened is that the original author copied the taxobox from our article on Thalassictis and incorrectly kept that line in (notice the first version also has "T. robusta", the type species of Thalassictis). I dutifully moved the authority to the right taxobox field without checking it, and now 14 years later it's still there. It's even crept back into the scientific literature.
 * McKenna & Bell (1997) attribute the name of the tribe to Gray (1821), so I'll correct our article. Ucucha (talk) 18:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see now that you only moved that existing comment. My apologies. I don't know if that reference to Gray (1821) is correct. I couldn't find a mention of Camelini in that particular text: https://archive.org/details/s0id11783780/page/306/mode/2up Ambuser (talk) 19:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Gray named Camelidae, and by the Principle of Coordination in the Code that means he is also deemed to have named all other ranks of family-group names based on Camelus.
 * The first author to have actually used the name Camelini to my knowledge is Webb (1965). Webb, S.D. 1965. The osteology of _Camelops_. Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County, Science Bulletin 1:1-54.
 * Ucucha (talk) 20:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

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