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Thanks a million
Thanks a million for getting back to me so quickly on Helpdesk. I had not seen the link you suggested about archiving comments on the talk page - it was just the type of thing I was looking for! Again, thank you, and thank you for getting back so quickly - I had not expected a reply quite as quickly! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:23, 6 September 2011 (UTC)\
 * No problem. – ukexpat (talk) 20:30, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

LV logo
Hi there

Thanks for looking at my problem on loading up the new LV= logo.

Do I take it that you've already loaded up the new logo for me? (which is great) It's just that I can't see it yet.

Correct logo to use is http://www.lv.com/upload/lv-rebrand-2009/images/logos/LV_liverpool_victoria_180wx80h_teal.jpg

Thanks for any help

Nick Nick joy (talk) 15:00, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes I uploaded the teal version - you may need to bypass your browser cache to see it. – ukexpat (talk) 15:04, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing the logo. Looks great! Nick joy (talk) 15:17, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. Just a quick suggestion if you are thinking of editing the article - please read WP:COI and WP:BFAQ. – ukexpat (talk) 15:19, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ukexpat,

I've just re-instated the images on the Ueli Steck page with the comment:

"The reason I have undone this edit, is that the photos provide a visual record of this climber's equipment. This is historically significant."

The photos are nothing to do with 'homage'. They are there to show the climber in his natural element using contemporary equipment. In years to come these photos will be historically significant. Please leave them alone.

Thank you, --2.24.205.11 (talk) 21:27, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

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Please re-examine
You recently voted in the Articles for deletion/Stefano Pelinga AfD. Since your vote, considerable changes have been made to the article and I request that you examine them and alter your vote accordingly, if necessary. Thank you. Silver seren C 03:50, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up, !vote revised to keep. – ukexpat (talk) 15:05, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Research into the user pages of Wikipedians: Invitation to participate
Greetings,

My name is John-Paul and I am a student with the University of Alberta specializing in Communications and Technology.

I would like to include your Wikipedia user page in a study I am doing about how people present themselves online. I am interested in whether people see themselves in different ways, online and offline. One of the things I am looking at is how contributors to Wikipedia present themselves to each other through their user pages. Would you consider letting me include your user page in my study?

With your consent, I will read and analyze your user page, and ask you five short questions about it that will take about ten to fifteen minutes to answer. I am looking at about twenty user pages belonging to twenty different people. I will be looking at all user pages together, looking for common threads in the way people introduce themselves to other Wikipedians.

I hope that my research will help answer questions about how people collaborate, work together, and share knowledge. If you are open to participating in this study, please reply to this message, on your User Talk page or on mine. I will provide you with a complete description of my research, which you can use to decide if you want to participate.

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Tessa Dahl
Hello, I need your advice. In looking at my Wickipedia page I notice you have edited it, in the past. Thus, may I ask you? How do could add my other movies ("Leopard in The Snow" was totally insignificant) and Theatre work? Also if I am not a Christian - but I believe in God, what may I be? I think it was you that removed Christian. I do not think you can answer me except perhaps on my e mail (Redacted) Thank you.

I wonder why you would be interested in my page at all? Yours Tessa Dahl 66.30.19.232 (talk). —Preceding undated comment added 16:09, 26 September 2011 (UTC).


 * Thanks for the message. Not quite sure how I came to be editing the article. Yes I removed "Christian" because claims like that, which can be contentious require a reliable source. I guess we could use Theist instead. As for your other works, if you list them here or at Talk:Tessa Dahl, I will add them to the article. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 16:18, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

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RE: Please be careful...
Hi! I honestly have no idea how that happened! And this is not the first time I've seen this happen either. Maybe an issue with MediaWiki? Your thoughts please. Thanks. -  Niri M / ನಿರಿ   20:14, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Beats me, probably some edit conflict glitch. Anyway no problem and nothing done that couldn't be undone. – ukexpat (talk) 20:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Neat, thanks for looking out. Cheers. -  Niri M / ನಿರಿ   20:32, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.51.83.142 (talk) 22:08, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Safe Families for Children
Hi UKExpat,

Is this the page where you'd want me to leave comments?

So you'd want me to rephrase the paragraph taken from the Safe Families website. It is commonly accepted though amongst the Safe Families Alliance ...(consists of 3 organizations and in over 20 states) that we can use information across the board, as long as the message is clear. No one of our Agencies have the sole right on any information - it's shared. Let me know what you think of that..using information in that format; and taken from our websites.

Also, will you mostly be following my postings on user:tackies/safefamilies? Can I save information on my user page and change it as I go along or will you have access and check each time I hit the save button? I don't mind at all, It's just that I want to determine the modus operandi.

Thanks for your inputs so far  Tackies (talk) 02:16, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, we can discuss this here. As I mentioned on your talk page, Wikipedia cannot accept copyright materials, nor is promotional material appropriate. This means that even if copyright material is released by the copyright owner, it will more than likely be inappropriate in tone. Please note that Wikipedia should not be considered an extension of the organization's website, it is an encyclopedia for articles about notable subjects. In this case, WP:ORG sets out the notability guidelines. Also, as you have a conflict of interest you are strongly advised not to create an article about the organization as it will be hard for you to maintain a neutral point of view. If the organization is indeed notable, someone will write an article about it eventually. I will put User:Tackies/Safe Families for Children on my watchlist so that I can keep an eye on it. In fact anyone who is not blocked from editing will be able to view and edit the subpage. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 14:01, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi there - Thank you for your feedback. I'll start working on the introductory paragraph and post it in my user page for your comment. thanks  Tackies (talk) 14:41, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

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The article Kuramo Foundation was deleted by a user. Please i want you to email or copy my deleted article to me. Thank You.Chuksemeka (talk) 11:03, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The article was deleted by an admin, User:Fastily. Please ask them to e-mail the article to you or WP:USERFY to your user space.--ukexpat (talk) 14:38, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * From the original article, how did it sound promotional and also if it did how can i make it not sound promotional. Thank you.--Chuksemeka (talk) 17:41, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

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I understand your position, but feel that by not accepting any items resulting from personal knowledge is a poor policy and can hurt the quality of wikipedia's content. Many of the 'facts' we know as truth today regarding history came from various individuals' personal knowledge or recollections. Without those contributions their stories may have been lost. Thank-you.Estmann (talk) 04:18, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for message. It was actually User:Nightscream who left that message for you, but he is 100% correct. Without sources, anyone can say anything about any subject and claim it is true because they know it is. I am afraid that is not a sound basis for building an encyclopedia.--ukexpat (talk) 14:07, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

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Jeannette Walls Wikipedia cite Questions
Hello to you,

I am a student at a local community college. My assignment is on Seminars, Movie deals and Stage Adaptations about Jeannette Walls. This detective work is to be posted on Wikipedia in an eloquent fashion proper not only for Wikipedia’s standers but for the overall work done for my assignment. I have tried and failed a couple times. I am writing you today to seek out your advice on a proper way of delivery. We only had this assignment for a short time, and I am led to believe I would have to be more than a novice to attempt such a feet. I am here today to implore your expertise on this subject. With your help not only would this cite be expanded, but you will be directing me and other students on the road to success in our education.

Thank you for your time and patients with this delicate matter. DeAnna Dewbre&#39; (talk) 16:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not clear to me what you mean by "detective work". That sounds like original research, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. If you have reliable sources that support the point that you are seeking to make, please cite them (see WP:CITE for assistance), but please be aware that such issues should not be given undue weight in the article. – ukexpat (talk) 14:08, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

My second attempt Good morning to you, My understanding so far is to only bring truthful documentation to Wikipedia. I have researched more than few credible cites. This was my research “Detective Work”. We are all trying extremely hard to understand and follow the process of Wikipedia’s standards. With your expanse range of knowledge and help it could be a great benefit. Please look this over and give some guidance so we all can enjoy the educational benefits of Wikipedia. DeAnna Dewbre' DeAnna Dewbre&#39; (talk) 20:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Jeannette Walls cite
Good morning to you,

My understanding so far is to only bring truthful documentation to Wikipedia. I have researched more than few credible cites. This was my research "detective work". We are trying extremely hard to understand the process of Wikipidia's standards. With your expanse range of knowledge and help could be a great benefit. Please look this over and give some guidance so we all can enjoy the educational benefits of Wikipedia.

Theatrical Adaptations Movie
 * Jeannette Walls' bestselling memoir "The Glass Castle" is a stage adaptation of a one-person theatrical presentation called 'The One-woman Show' played by Actress Sarah Franek. Ms. Franek portrays one woman’s coming of age in a poverty stricken abnormal yet absolutely unparalleled and colorful family. Ms. Franek is touring High Schools and Universities across the Greater United States.


 * "Glass Castle" is based on the memoir of New York columnist Jeanette Walls, a woman who must come to terms with her homeless upbringing as the child of an alcoholic, nomadic father and mentally unbalanced mother. Anne Meredith is writing the screenplay.  Dede Gardner and Kristin Hahn will oversee the project for Plan B."
 * One Hollywood Reporter said that it was "catnip for serious actors looking to play charismatic scoundrels."DeAnna Dewbre&#39; (talk) 16:36, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Jeannette Walls cite
My second attempt Good morning to you,

My understanding so far is to only bring truthful documentation to Wikipedia. I have researched more than few credible cites. This was my research “Detective Work”. We are all trying extremely hard to understand and follow the process of Wikipedia’s standards.

With your expanse range of knowledge and help it could be a great benefit. Please look this over and give some guidance so we all can enjoy the educational benefits of Wikipedia. DeÄnna Dewbré DeAnna Dewbre&#39; (talk) 20:44, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

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Regarding The_Ethics_of_Ambiguity
Thanks for cleaning up the article on The_Ethics_of_Ambiguity. You added template indicating that more inline citations are needed. But all the citations are to the online edition of the work, which has no page numbers. I do footnote the first quotation with this:


 * All quotations are from the on-line edition of The Ethics of Ambiguity, which has no page numbers.

So I am not sure how to improve it from here. Do you think it would be OK to remove the 'more footnotes' template? Bmeacham (talk) 01:13, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You don't need page numbers to create inline citations - just use the Cite book template, completing as many of the parameters as you can. If you want to use the same ref more than once, see WP:NAMEDREFS. – ukexpat (talk) 02:11, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Got it. I have added citation per Cite Book template and removed the 'more footnotes' notice.  Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmeacham (talk • contribs) 23:49, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry that won't work. You should use the Cite book at every place where you want to cite the source, using named references if you are repeating the same citation. Simply saying "see sources below" doesn't help, because you are not supporting statements made in the article with direct citations. I have added back the maintenance template for now. – ukexpat (talk) 01:19, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It is fixed now. Thanks for your help. Bmeacham (talk) 02:13, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

New Leaders for New Schools - a request
Hi Ukexpat, I spotted that you added a warning tag to the New Leaders for New Schools article and I have to say that I agree with you: the article is currently written in a rather promotional tone. I'm not sure if you saw my message on the talk page there, but I have in fact written a new draft of the article that seeks to address the issues with the current content. I've been asking for other editors to review the draft and my request to rename the article, since I have a potential conflict of interest as I have written the draft on behalf of New Leaders (formerly New Leaders for New Schools). I wonder if you would mind taking a look at the draft (here) and providing your comments? If you think it's an improvement on the article right now, please feel free to make the replacement. Let me know if you have any questions about the draft or if you've got any feedback for me. Thanks! 16912 Rhiannon (talk) 21:47, 7 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi again, just wanted to let you know that since I haven't received any objections to the proposed new draft or change of name, I have gone ahead with the replacement of the article and move to New Leaders. If you have any feedback or questions about the changes, please let me know and I'll be happy to reply when I can. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

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Ed Bishop Photo
I'm sorry, you guys seem to insist on using fully copyrighted photos which are FALSELY claimed to fall under fair use. They don't! The current Ed Bishop photo belongs to the fanclub and use of it is a) harming its commercial value (ISOSHADO are using these photos on fan articles) b) with some work it should be perfectly able to come up with a photo free for usage on Wikipedia by asking e.g. Ed Bishop's widow, his family or for that matter any one of his fans who took an original photo of him and are willing to allow use on WP and c) there is absolutely no need to add a photo to this article, it is quite understandable without one. It's not as if people couldn't go and have a look see of Bishop in any one of over 100 movies he worked in. So do everyone a favour and bloody well respect the copyright of others. There's no excuse for any of this here. Grainsofsalt (talk) 22:19, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * See WP:NFCC - that image is in compliance. – ukexpat (talk) 22:23, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I checked, it isn't. It is possible to ask for a free photo, it is commercially harmful to the fanclub (and why spare yourself the work to send them an email and properly ask for use? Just because, or what?), it is not necessary to the article itself. Info about Bishop can be read textually. If this is how you "respect" copyright, I begin to understand why there are people engaging in lawsuits. 22:28, 14 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grainsofsalt (talk • contribs)
 * Why is it commercially harmful - is the fan club exploiting the copyright for gain? In any event, if you are connected with the fan club, would it be prepared to give permission for the image to be used? Please see WP:Donating copyright materials. Not sure which lawsuits you are referring to... – ukexpat (talk) 22:33, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * ISOSHADO are owners and photographers of all these private photos on their site. Ed Bishop was the president of this fanclub. All of these photos are exclusive, you can't just use them and think you don't harm them by doing so. There are NO fans for example who reuse these pictures anywhere. Instead many of them go onto ISOSHADO exclusive fan-items (like calendars etc.) and are sold to maintain the club which collects a large amount of items relevant to Ed Bishop. Why the sudden need to put a photo there? Wait a bit and the problem may solve itself with someone giving a photo or picture of Bishop to Wikipedia. And yes, asking them might be a really good idea. That's how such things work usually! Don't simply appropriate things, especially when there is absolutely no cause or reason for what you currently insist on doing. Grainsofsalt (talk) 22:48, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a low resolution image so the commercial interests of the fan club are not being damaged. Wikipedia uses hundreds, thousands of images under its (stricter than "fair use") non-free content criteria. But if you want to nominate for deletion, please do so at WP:FFD. – ukexpat (talk) 02:13, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Ukexpat, Just wanted to let you know that earlier I had recommended that Grainsofsalt nominate the file for review at WP:NFCR if they felt that the uploader's rationale was incorrect. As a newcomer, we may not want to confuse them too terribly....but it is your call. :) ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  03:14, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

File:3 WOMEN & A CHATEAU.jpg
Please see G12 and revert yourself. G12 applies only to unambiguous copyright infringement. “For equivocal cases (such as where there is a dubious assertion of permission…)” Copyright violations applies instead.—teb728 t c 22:19, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

And actually F9 is the applicable criterion for unambiguous copyright infringement for files (G12 is for text). F9 explicitly makes the credibility of the claim a relevant issue, “This does not include images with a credible claim that the owner has released them under a Wikipedia-compatible free license.” The claim here is credible because the source website is owned by Luna Productions, and the uploader claims to be Gary Weimberg, one of two partners in that firm. —teb728 t c 22:39, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree with your comment at MCQ that the uploader should communicate permission via OTRS, which is why I left the di-no permission tag. I fear, however, that the bitey, improper speedy deletion of the file will so dishearten him that he never sends to OTRS permission which is very likely his to give. —teb728 t c 11:29, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit to Aviva Investors
Hello UKexpat,

In reference to the Aviva Investors news link The Central Bank of Ireland..., this would be classified as a non neutral point of view and to give it a proportionately non-bias view further articles should be added or this line should be removed.

''Editing from a neutral point of view (NPOV) means representing fairly, proportionately... All Wikipedia articles and other encyclopedic content must be written from a neutral point of view. NPOV is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia and of other Wikimedia projects. This policy is non-negotiable and all editors and articles must follow it.''

If I am wrong in my thoughts, then I look forward to discussing.

If you would be so kind to remove this sentence, that would be most appreciated, as if I update it - it seems to get added on again.

Best regards,

Mark --AvivaEditor (talk) 16:20, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

changes
Hi my sources are present in other Wikipedia pages (where the same informations are accepted), and refer to researchs made public on many occasions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mer1337 (talk • contribs) 08:48, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no citation here relating to DuPont

-> "In 1941, an investigation exposed a "marriage" cartel between John D. Rockefeller's United States-based Standard Oil Co. and I.G. Farben.[13][14][15][16] It also brought new evidence concerning complex price and marketing agreements between DuPont (...)"

,and in fact the other citations in that section are so vague as to be next to useless. Also, you cannot say without a detailed reference that because DuPont may have done some experiments with cyanide, it was the inspiration for the Nazi gas chambers. – ukexpat (talk) 14:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

1) not "some" or "may have": Dupont DID commercialized cynanide to prisons, developped a cooperation in the 30's with MANY penitentiary centers, this is also well known.

2) for the "inspiration", it's all in the documentary I mentioned. The 2 compagnies shared technologies at a time when they both developped cyanide gas for execution... it's clear enought don't you think? have a look here: http://books.google.com/books?id=HqNOachMlNkC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=Erwin+Respondek+dupont&source=bl&ots=dnW-EGo9kh&sig=gnr0owMhQfBqACtU8bT65YPAR_E&hl=fr&ei=G5XDTqv6G4TbsgbKm_y0Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q&f=false

and there: http://books.google.com/books?id=AIzaoHoggUwC&pg=PA169&lpg=PA169&dq=Erwin+Respondek+dupont&source=bl&ots=6ryPSTbMiI&sig=EkzuI5GCWZJU-59nnnQX6d9f2LQ&hl=fr&ei=HZbDTtuHKs_SsgaqqdX7Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Erwin%20Respondek%20dupont&f=false

So first you erase my text, then you lie saying there's no citation (even if DUPONT is mentioned in HOLOCAUST research in the National Archives!) or that it is to vague (did you see the documentary I talk about?!), and finally you ask to close the wikipedia page to avoid any changes. What will you say next? That the books I just quoted don't exist?!


 * The books exist I don't doubt that, but the "evidence" at least on the pages you linked to is not sufficient to make the leap from allegations of an "arrangement" between DuPont and IGF, to an allegation that DuPont was involved in the development of Zyklon B. In any event, please continue this on the article's talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 14:06, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Joan Massague's Awards section
Hi, I would like to "undo" the awards you deleted from Dr. Massague's awards section. It says they are "unnotable" but that is somewhat relative, expecially since some of the accolades are quite important internationally (especially in Spain, where he is from) but not so much in the US.

I would like to add back the following awards: King Juan Carlos I Research Award (1993) Prince of Asturias Award in Science and Technology (2004) Passano Laureate Prize (2007) G.H.A. Clowes Memorial Award from the American Association for Cancer Research (2009) Frontiers of Knowledge Award in Biomedicine from the BBVA Foundation (2009) Feodor Lynen Medal (2010) Pasarow Award for Cancer Research (2011)

Please let me know if this is OK. Thanks. Enapolitano (talk) 19:01, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

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WP:COIN report
Hey. I see that you edited a page in question today. I just asked over there what you opinion of the page is. If you think it's OK, I'm going to close the case. Here]'s the specific conversation I'm referring to. Have a good rest of the day. [[User:OlYeller21| Ol Yeller21 <sup style="color:#827839;">Talktome  22:16, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome: A User Guide to Adolescence
I'm wondering why you think that the book is non-notable. I mean you tagged it with no explanation. SL93 (talk) 19:29, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think it meets the notability guidelines for books, which you will find at WP:NBOOK. – ukexpat (talk) 02:07, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I have long ago. I find it notable and I found three more sources easily. SL93 (talk) 02:09, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

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adding France Fulbright among Fulbright list of countries
why such rules? I'm trying to give a useful information and you just discard it because it should comply to something weird, decided by who? Robert Jeansoulin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeansoulin (talk • contribs) 18:38, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I assume you are referring to this edit? If so, please note that the "See also" section is solely for links to existing Wikipedia articles and is specifically not for external links or redlinks to non-existent articles. – ukexpat (talk) 19:02, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes (referring to this edit). Where is the appropriate place for adding Fulbright France info? Other countries have added their own link there. Do I need to create a page? Robert Jeansoulin --Jeansoulin (talk) 20:21, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, to be in the See also section, it would need its own article and that article must demonstrate notability. – ukexpat (talk) 20:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Potential deletions and or being noted as a Sockpuppet
Hi you recently posted notification warning of 'deletion' against the Global Arab Business Meeting and the equivalent Russia one (and most likely as noted in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Dundswk against all of these Wiki (ie Arab, Russia, China and India; as well as Horasis itself).

My defense is simply that I was not advertising, nor am I paid to make entries for Horasis though I am directed by its CEO (his lack of time suggested that). So - these pages are in my terms simply short records of the meetings which have the added lightness of a few pictures as well as linked press releases and other footnotes. But you may be correct; the items look ‘circular’ in so far as they refer to meetings organized by one CEO (of Horasis). They describe what Horasis attempts to do as an introduction and then relate (in a similar way in each meeting’s Wiki) what occurred and when the next meeting will be. He and I thought that format would be short yet informative without being seen as an advertisement. What ought I to do to make this situation better? And how might I remove the Sockpuppet label? Johnbkidd (talk) 16:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)