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Spoofing you
Hi ukexpat, just as a heads up, there is apparently someone claiming that they are you and offering to edit Draft:Blueprint Earth for money. I am in the process of gathering more information from that individual (the OP is on Facebook), but I thought I should let you know before the wolves come calling. Primefac (talk) 20:36, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks - that's not the first time. I have an e-mail from a similar (may be the same) imposter promising they wouldn't do it again. Happy to send it to anyone who needs to see it. I have, with difficulty, refrained from responding on the Facebook thread so as not to out myself.--ukexpat (talk) 20:49, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Refresh the thread, just to make sure that hasn't happened... Primefac (talk) 21:07, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, Uxepat. :) Just wanted to let you know that I've blanked the bulk of that article for copyright problems. I didn't want to take action on the speedy concerns because it was brought to my attention as a problem on my user page, and I feared I might be predisposed. I try not to mix my copyright hat with other hats. Anyway, I tried to make clear in edit summary that I have no objection to speedy deletion, but if the speedy is declined for any reason want to be sure that the copyvio leaves publication unless we get permission. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:18, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Good call, it looked copyvioish to me too.-ukexpat (talk) 22:47, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry for mispelling your name! I've always kind of pronounced "Uxepat" in my head and have only just now made the "Oh, THAT'S what that means!" connection. :D Well, better late than never. :/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 23:06, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * LOL!--ukexpat (talk) 00:36, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Lori St John also Lori Urs
For your reference and ease in review I have compiled a list of just some of the secondary sources you will find Ms. Urs, now Lori St John. Mention of Lori Urs (now St John) in Secondary Sources

New England School of Law http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.6.html?scp=1&sq=Joseph+O'Dell&st=nyt

http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.3.html?scp=1&sq=Joseph+O'Dell&st=nyt, Urs referenced and acknowledged throughout the article as the reason one of 3, 000 death row cases became an international cause. See columns, 1, 3, and 4, noting: column 1: Days after the Supreme Court stayed O’Dell’s execution on Dec. 17, the New York Times reported “there can’t be many people left in Italy who never heard of O’Dell. The “nagging question” the story asked was “how this case was singled out for Italy’s’ national embrace. They need have looked no further than Urs, a driven woman who has dedicated her life to saving O’Dell’s. Column 2, O’Dell’s case was already known in Italy via the Internal... but but so too were the cases of more than 3,000 other Americans on death row across the country, and no one was demonstrating about any of them until Urs reached Farkas.” Column 3: After the story ran (front page story of the most widely circulated newspaper in Italy), Neri, a locally elected official representing the region of Umbria, called Farkas looking for Urs, and things took a political turn. Column 5- “ In January, Urs toured Italy to thank O’Dell supporter and drummed up more attention. Ferrarotti, the sociologist, appeared on a television show with Urs during the visit. He said Urs “captured the imagination of the Italian public at large. I was quite amazed myself. He said she was “very forceful, very attractive, obviously very dedicated and you know all of this put together somehow made an impact.” Leoluca Orlando, major of Palermo, made O’dell an honorary citizen.

Urs was invited by the Italian Parliament, who sponsored her trip, to tour the country of Italy. She began her tour in the President’s office, meeting with his aid, and then met with the President of the Senate, President of Constitutional Affairs and numerous high dignitaries throughout Italy, including doing a TV show with then Foreign Affairs Prime Minister Dini.

She was also invited twice to the Vatican, met the Secretary of State, who gave her a rosary from the Pope and was invited back to meet privately with Pope John Paul II, at the Vatican. She also received a phone call from Mother Teresa, in acknowledgement of her work, and invited her to stay with her in Calcutta. See The Corruption of Innocence, a Journey for Justice, pages 326, 338-9, 340, 441, 440-1, 417, 417, 427, 429,

World’s appeals can’t stay execution http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.5.html?scp=1&sq=Joseph+O'Dell&st=nyt

Philadelphia Inquirer: http://www.loristjohn.com/TPI-1.1.html

About Urs... read how her mission led her to take extraordinary measures to obtain the evidence for posthumous DNA testing.

A Jersey woman’s fight for justice http://blog.nj.com/perspective/2013/10/when_injustice_proves_too_diff.html

Urs (now St John )and her story, purchased for the film adaptation by J. Miles Dale http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/10/fl-creative-production-idUSnBw105718a+100+BSW20130910

Lori Urs debates evidence with Commonwealth Attorney Humphreys in Virginia, http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.4.html

New York Times; Front page Lori Urs’ website page was the first to be noted for its uniqueness, reaching people worldwide, where a petition was started to fee O’Dell. This same web site was the one picked up by 24 hours in Cyberspace (see wikki) for her notability in touching human lives around the world. see the wikki article about 24 hours in Cyberspace http://www.loristjohn.com/NYT-1.1.html

Washington Post

see picture of Lori Urs with Sister Helen Prejean. She called a press conference and recruited the famous nun to join her cause to save Joseph O’Dell. http://www.loristjohn.com/NYT-1.1.html

International- Italy See http://www.loristjohn.com/ItalianMedia-5.1.html

Message to Lori Urs from Mother Teresa, who phoned her personally in August. http://www.loristjohn.com/Document-4.html

Lori Urs wrote an appendix to the U.S Supreme Court citing the factual errors in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, in this brief summary she includes some of her legal research and investigation. http://www.loristjohn.com/Document-1.1.html

Book Reviews and other secondary sources

http://www.whomyouknow.com/2013/07/read-this-corruption-of-innocence.html#.VcJnls5cvyc

https://readersfavorite.com/book-review/the-corruption-of-innocence

http://www.lideamagazine.com/usa-book-expo-america-books-books-books-and-again-books-part-2/

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/books-corruption-innocence-joseph-odell-story

http://www.crimecasefiles.com/forum/life-on-death-row/47551-books-the-corruption-of-innocence-the-joseph-odell-story.html

See testimonials

http://www.loristjohn.com/index-bookreviews.html

Photographs of Lori Urs with Italy Parliament Members, and other High Dignitaries

Photographs with Lori Urs and Italian Parliament Members (and European Parliament member Leoluca Orlando (member of both parliaments).

http://www.loristjohn.com/index-3.html

see also her book.

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Mistake in Apostille Convention article
Hi in your article "Apostille Convention" you listed Thailand as a party to convention since 2002 which is wrong. Thailand IS NOT a party at all. plz modify — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.229.116.92 (talk) 16:05, 9 August 2015 (UTC)


 * It's not my article. If it's wrong, please fix it.-ukexpat (talk) 21:00, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

"Justice Scalia" or just "Scalia"?
Hi Ukexpat -- you recently made an edit to Jesinoski v. Countrywide Home Loans, Inc. in which you changed the second and third mention of Justice Antonin Scalia to just "Scalia" (without the word "Justice" preceding his name). I was wondering if you could direct me to a section in the MOS that recommends referring to judges (or other similarly situated individuals) by their last name alone?

In most scholarly publications in legal academia, Supreme Court justices (and other judges in lower courts) are almost always referred to "Justice Smith," "Justice Jones," or "Judge McDonald," even if they have been mentioned earlier in the article. See, for example, this article. Consequently, I I think the term "Justice" likely falls into the category of terms that are "so commonly attached to" names in scholarship that they should be used every time the article refers to that individual. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 16:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


 * By analogy with WP:HONORIFIC and WP:LASTNAME? Maybe a better place to discuss it is WT:LAW.--ukexpat (talk) 17:48, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I hadn't seen WP:LASTNAME until just now, but that is certainly informative. I'll go ahead and start a discussion at WT:LAW. Thanks for your response! Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 18:36, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/William X. Wang
Kirkwood829 (talk) 05:41, 12 August 2015 (UTC) I have read over several messages from your talk. I get several issues would like to discuss with you. As Mr.Wang’s very close and long-time friend, only me who has opportunities of follow his experience in both US and China for decades, and also only me who is able to understand the languages that introduced him in both English and Chinese, this is the reason, I has initialized the article and been kept it updated. I think it would be more beneficial to keep the article alive and to continue improve it for better. I feel there has a few reasons: At first, Wang’s story have been continually appeared in a number of TV program, book, magazine; journal; records in Chinese since 1980s of last century. Those information presented in the article all can be verified from public resources. Secondly, because his unique life story from a country boy to be a scholar is considered as a miniature and epitome of a Chinese history period that communist has ruled for more than last 60 years. Thirdly, Wang’s experience from a bio-scientist to bio-related entrepreneur, is the products of the times, that reflects and somehow represents the trend of the times and the tendency of 21st century’s industry development; thirdly Wang spent a half time of his life in china and another half in America, he is a kind of symbolic figure for millions of American Chinese who contributed to both country and he is a good example of the United States as a national,culture and idea melting pot for people who coming from all over the world. Fourthly, since the article lunched in 2010, it has been 6 years,and during this period, I can see from the view history where has more 20 editors whom you might be included, had appreciable time to correct it, improve it and make it better and better. A deletion is a simple and quick action, but it would waste all those valuable efforts and precious time. At last, I found that your last modification has removed the most controversial paragraphs which I had added a few days ago, and so the article already returned to the before that the version has existed 6 years. In future, if I intend to add more details, I should very carefully to follow the rules and policies of Wikipedia and write it neutrally and professionally. Sincerely, Kirkwood829.

I have read over several messages from your talk. I get several issues would like to discuss with you. As Mr.Wang’s very close and long-time friend, only me who has opportunities of follow his experience in both US and China for decades, and also only me who is able to understand the languages that introduced him in both English and Chinese, this is the reason, I has initialized the article and been kept it updated. I think it would be more beneficial to keep the article alive and to continue improve it for better. I feel there has a few reasons: At first, Wang’s story have been continually appeared in a number of TV program, book, magazine; journal; records in Chinese since 1980s of last century. Those information presented in the article all can be verified from public resources. Secondly, because his unique life story from a country boy to be a scholar is considered as a miniature and epitome of a Chinese history period that communist has ruled for more than last 60 years. Thirdly, Wang’s experience from a bio-scientist to bio-related entrepreneur, is the products of the times, that reflects and somehow represents the trend of the times and the tendency of 21st century’s industry development; thirdly Wang spent a half time of his life in china and another half in America, he is a kind of symbolic figure for millions of American Chinese who contributed to both country and he is a good example of the United States as a national,culture and idea melting pot for people who coming from all over the world. Fourthly, since the article lunched in 2010, it has been 6 years,and during this period, I can see from the view history where has more 20 editors whom you might be included, had appreciable time to correct it, improve it and make it better and better. A deletion is a simple and quick action, but it would waste all those valuable efforts and precious time. At last, I found that your last modification has removed the most controversial paragraphs which I had added a few days ago, and so the article already returned to the before that the version has existed 6 years. In future, if I intend to add more details, I should very carefully to follow the rules and policies of Wikipedia and write it neutrally and professionally. Sincerely, Kirkwood829.


 * Please make your comments in the deletion discussion at Articles for deletion/William X. Wang.--ukexpat (talk) 12:44, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Where I can post my message in the box of the comments in the deletion discussion? I am not sure if I just did is right. Please give me a guild. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirkwood829 (talk • contribs)


 * You already have done.--ukexpat (talk) 15:39, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

draft Peter R Hemming
I had Fiveer do it and they sent me the draft with the note it had been submitted with photos etc! help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterhemming3 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I've explained at the Help Desk what needs to be done to submit it. It is much easier if whoever drafted it adds the "submit" code.--ukexpat (talk) 17:44, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

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Harry & David article
Hello ukexpat, I'm not sure if you were just helping out by adding a talkpage-template where it belonged, or if you had some interest in the article-topic, but just in case you care, the wp-coi-request got fulfilled, and I think the right CEO is in place. I also ran a quick skim-scan copy-edit. Thanks, 75.108.94.227 (talk) 02:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi there,

thank you for the welcome. I tried reading up on the references part but since the text is translated it is going to be difficult to use the German books as reference I assume? Any tips on how to get this solved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frank Moeckel (talk • contribs) 17:53, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Helmut Möckel (soccer player)
Hi there,

I have a question related to the following article: Helmut Möckel (soccer player) I have referenced the article as good as I could, is there a chance you could take a look at it to see why I am still getting the warning about citations?

Thank you! Frank Frank Moeckel (talk) 18:31, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Maintenance templates are not added or removed automatically, they can be manually removed when the issue(s) has been dealt with. In this case we would like to see a few more references - I had to remove the reference citing the German Wikipedia - we cannot use Wikipedia as a reference. I also made some clean up edits to conform to the English Wikipedia's manual of style. You need to look at the beginning of the second paragraph - I think something got lost in translation.--ukexpat (talk) 19:11, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

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Ringling College
Hello,

I am in the the Communications Office at Ringling College and have edited our page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringling_College_of_Art_and_Design) twice now, but someone keeps undoing the edits saying they are copyright violation. This is not copyright violation - this came from Ringling College. Please explain how to keep the changes I made. I am making these on behalf of the College and all copy is factual and relevant.

Thanks, Holly — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsieglin (talk • contribs) 20:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Please see the reply to your question at the Tea House.-ukexpat (talk) 22:09, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

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Wallace also
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