User talk:Ukexpat/Archive 9

LET ME BE RIGHT
GOT TO GET IT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.236.166 (talk) 00:01, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Greubel Forsey - This article is written like an advertisement tag
I have rewritten and cleaned up the Greubel Forsey article to read in a more neutral tone. Would you please review and if you are happy with my edits remove the 'This article is written like an advertisement tag' you added, or if you feel that it still nneeds work let me know where. Thank you.IanS (talk) 09:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Subpages
In my talk page, you said you can help me create a subpage for the company to help avoid speedy deletion and to get the content right so it can eventually gain approval. How do we get started? —Preceding undated comment added 14:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC).

thank you very much do you know about a movie about alzheimers? (its a love story) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlisle10 (talk • contribs) 19:51, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Woodruff photo
Dear UKexpat Thanks for your note. If I did get a ticket number, it did not survive a computer crash last year. What do I do now? Regards--Woodruff (talk) 22:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Your little note.
You added a little note to the other chaps message saying I had left a misleading edit statement, or some such.

When I edited the JFK assassination page, the version I had on screen said "John F My Life Kennedy" - so I edited it to remove the rude expression. It appears that someone also edited at the same time, however, I resent my edit being marked as vandalism (I have addressed this separately) and really, if you had looked at the page before you would have seen that my edit and the other were within a short space of time. It wouldn't have taken a great leap to see that I was a new user that had set up an account especially for the purpose of editing out the rude comment on that page. I think your snippy little note was uncalled for. I had clearly stated I was editing out rude words, and if you go back and look you will see how the page had looked.

So for any new people who try to help, we get branded vandals and have additional notes saying we are lying. This is not how I'd expect people to treat new comers. You may dislike people who interfere with "your" wikipedia, but this is for everyone and ordinary folk trying to assist do not deserve to be treated like that. I am offended. I doubt you care, but I wish to clear my name even if it's only for my own satisfaction. SueGD (talk) 00:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Blackbird (journal) question
Hi Ukexpat,

My apologies for forgetting about the edit summary portion of the page. I'll be sure to do that in the future. I had a question regarding your recent comment on the Blackbird discussion page - "Self-references are not reliable sources in support of notability."

Since Blackbird is an online journal and I was using the actual internet publication pages for each author to back up that they were indeed published in the journal, I understand that that counts as a "self-reference." However, does that mean instead of me using the actual journal publication pages, I have to find a third-party source that lists that these authors were indeed published in Blackbird and use that as the reference instead? Some of the authors aren't widely published so finding a third-party source that lists their publication history has been challenging. Thank you for your help.

Ctcahill (talk) 15:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)ctcahill

Blackbird follow-up
Hi Ukexpat,

As far as the content that describes Blackbird's notability, I think I've replaced all of the self-references with third-party sources. If I have, is it ok to remove the "self-published sources" tag? Also, in reference to the other tag, I think I've almost (...I'm not sure) done enough inline citations to support verification so can that tag be removed also or do I need to do more inline citations? If so, what is it exactly that I haven't provided an inline citation for that needs it (I know I haven't provided inline citations for every author, but I was going to continue to work on that)? My apologies for all of the questions. Thank you.

Ctcahill (talk) 16:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)Ctcahill

Jacob Aaron Westervelt
Please feel free to edit the Jacob Aaron Westervelt. Im actually not a native english speaker... Im Swiss. So my english is not perfect at all... and I know it ;). The article was in my Sandbox for a couple of days, and several people (admins) were looking at it, but it seems you see more... Thanks for your help. -- Rectilinium  '♥' 20:41, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I dont know if you actually planned to copyedit the rest of my article too, because I would be glad if you could do so, before someone adds a copyedit tag. I prefer, if one good editor works on my article first, before dozens of people start to make minor edits that are not really improving the article. You would really do me a favour! Another user suggested that I shall nominate the article for WP:DYK (within 5 days), but I would like to wait until the article is edited. With kind regards -- Rectilinium  '♥' 09:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi... I just want to ask, if you are still interested to edit the rest of my article... with kind regards -- Rectilinium  '♥' 20:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks -- Rectilinium  '♥' 20:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi. Today the Jacob Aaron Westervelt-article appears/appeard on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column. On the discussion page a user wrote, that in his eyes the article is written in a Non-encyclopedic format. Thats why I would like to ask you once more, if you have the time to continue the copyedit? With kind regards -- Rectilinium  '♥' 04:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Rehoboth Carpenter family
"I have reverted your recent changes to Rehoboth Carpenter family. Sticking chunks of text in square brackets in the article is not the way to resolve content disputes. Please discuss on the article's talk page in an attempt to reach consensus. – ukexpat (talk) 01:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)"

Apparently you haven't reviewed Rehoboth Carpenter family's history over the last few weeks or read its discussion page (please do read at least the "Clarification" section). Consensus is not in the cards. I and others have attempted to engage Iwanafish in discussion of his wholesale deletion of my edits and reversion to his own, which are laced with errors and baseless claims. He has refused to communicate on Wikipedia or to reply to several e-mails that another Carpenter researcher and I have sent him over the course of several months (beginning well before my first edit of the article). Yet he continues to restore his version (from which he has removed all traces of my contributions)--not because it is accurate (which, emphatically, it is not) but because it is his. While I recognize that my bracketed insertions were unorthodox, I used them only after repeated attempts of a more conventional sort (see "history" and "discussion" pages). I don't have much experience writing for Wikipedia, but there appears to be no effective means of restraining the likes of Iwanafish. Other "passersby" such as yourself have called for the same approach that you do: talk it out on the discussion page and try to reach consensus. Iwanafish, however, is (to be kind) not of a collegial disposition. What, please, is the remedy when someone persists in cavalierly promulgating mistake-ridden information and resists all attempts to enlist him in dialogue? I'm beginning to think that, when push comes to shove, Wikipedia is incapable of policing itself. I would rather the article be removed altogether than see it survive in its present form, as a rich source of misinformation. GeneZub (talk) 06:10, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I would like to Thank You for your efforts to help get Iwannafish to communicate. FYI: Iwannafish uses 160.244.140.202 as an alias. If you or other editors would help vote on the survey or make any other comment that would be helpful for Rehoboth Carpenter Family, I would appreciate it.  John R. Carpenter Jrcrin001 (talk) 09:00, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Survey format
What is the proper format for a survey request on an article's main page? As you know, the Rehoboth Carpenter Family has had a edit war. I provided a compromise article and placed it with the competing versions on the discussion page. Any help, voting, etc would be appreciated.

John R. Carpenter Jrcrin001 (talk) 22:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Style review request
Cheers You have listed yourself as a peer review volunteer for British English syntax, spelling, etc. I would like you to take a look at Bibliography of George Orwell, as I am planning on finishing it off within the next week and nominating it for (eventually) a featured list. If you want to leave suggestions and corrections there or on my talk, I would appreciate it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:21, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note I am in the process of converting Sortnames to Sorts; please ignore this stupid mistake of mine. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:21, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Review You can take a look now - all I have to add is a few items in the table. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:06, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

inappropriate links
I would like to understand how the link that i posted is inappropriate - the linked page provides updated daily news on India fashion week. I would appreciate it if you allow the posted link

http://www. fashionistas. me/group/willsindiafashionweek

Thank you

Sanjiv Fashion2 (talk) 19:52, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

The link posted provides neutral information in regards for the topic page and falls withing the guidelines of the Wikipedia external links policy

What should be linked Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fashion2 (talk • contribs)

The links i have posted fall within the guidelines of the wikipedia link policy - it is not spam. It is updated news on the topic page

I would appreciate an explanation as to why it does not fall within the policy

Thank you

Sanjiv —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fashion2 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

My intention is not to spam but to provide relevant information to viewer of various topics covered on Wikipedia.

In regards to fashionistas the key issue is Wikipedia is referencing a pornography show that has little to do with fashionistas.

The generally accepted description of fashionistas is individuals who are part of the fashion community and followers of fashion.

Wikipedia is allow a pornography show to hijack fashionistas and providing incorrect information for the community at large. This is simply common sense - it seems the moderators of Wikipedia make it very difficult to correct misleading information on the Wikipedia site and not allow links fall within the guidelines and provide neutral information to users.

Fashion2 (talk) 21:17, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Fashion2 (talk) 21:17, 23 April 2009 (UTC) Sanjiv Fashion2 (talk) 21:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Contribution-Butterfly City
Thanks for replying.

I am not sure what contribution you have. I seemed at my end to have erased the page I was creating about Gainesville, FL, as the first Butterfly City, after I had added the ten requirements.

What did you receive? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabe Hillel (talk • contribs) 22:57, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion /Zoomzoom1
I'd like your help in figuring out how to work appropriately with Wikipedia. The articles I have placed are meant to be informational and appropriate, and have references from external publications. I was learning to edit wiki markup when I put stuff in my user page. I did not know it would show up overall and it is fine to remove.

There are many simulation languages, and SimApp is one of them. You can visit just some of the other simulation system pages: Vissim, Maplesim, Matlab, Simulink, ACSL to name a few for comparison with the content I provided - I believe they are similar, but may be missing something. They all have links to company websites. If you can think of ways the content could be improved, please let me know.

I have a lot of information to contribute in the dynamics and control arenas over time. This experience is making it less likely that I will add to Wikipedia in the future. By the way, I fight SPAM every day so we may have similar concerns overall.

Zoomzoom1 (talk) 00:05, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback notice
— Bellhalla (talk) 14:07, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Fashionista
Turned the redirect into a disambig page. Thought that was a little clearer. Hopefully it'll also convince our friend above that it's better to leave it in peace now. Yinta ɳ  (in old jeans and a T-shirt) 14:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC) AGAIN ;-)


 * FYI:
 * meta:Talk:Spam blacklist (permanent link)
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 01:19, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Template ship
The template does work, see WT:SHIPS! Mjroots (talk) 17:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

minka kelly
what you ar deleting is in fact truth and can be verified by the parties involved; sharon brown,derek jeter and minka kelly so unless one of these are disputing this you have no cause to change this. have jeter and kelly denied this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sing51074 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

SimApp article questions
Thank you for your help so far and the explanation about content in my personal page. I will remove it. Now I would like some hints and help on specifically how to "userfy" the SimApp page. As I described in my talk with you yesterday, there are many simulation software packages described in Wikipedia. I believe that the article is very similar in scope to the other simulation package descriptions I mentioned in the prior message: Matlab, Simulink, Vissim, Maplesim, ACSL, and so on. There are references to published works in three languages.

Regards, Zoomzoom1 (talk) 18:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Disputed non-free use rationale for File:George M. Zinkhan.jpg
Please see updates to File:George M. Zinkhan.jpg. The subject is currently sought by American authorities in connection with three deaths. I doubt he will be stopping to have is picture taken. This illustrates a breaking news story. If a free alternative to this image becomes available, I would be happy to replace it. Thanks. Calebrw (talk) 15:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Ummm, you're welcome. I think of them as extremely modest, in the sense of Churchill's epigram. Still, you are most welcome. Amccray (talk) 00:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

vandalism?
The line I changed was her date of birth, it was incorrect. The entry has not been changed from the initial change I made to the page, so where does the vandalism part come in?

69.253.224.120 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.224.120 (talk) 01:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Vandal identified
198.49.22.200 has a long history of vandalizing web pages. I am still a newbie, but can't that person be blocked? I saw your post helping others regarding vandals, so that is why I came to you. John R. Carpenter Jrcrin001 (talk) 16:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Spotify
I am not entirely sure what the problem is. I reverted the vandalism that came up with huggle, then fixed my one mistake. I would have removed the vandalism that you said was there, had it shown up. Thanks, Ono (talk) 03:52, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

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AFD Re-opened
As you are an editor who had been involved in the Afd discussion of Jennifer Fitzgerald, I'm here to let you know that I re-opened the discussion on the article to gain a stronger consensus. After some discussion with a few other editors I agree that I may have closed the article too hastily and that further discussion is necessary before a final decision is made. Best wishes, Icestorm815  •  Talk  19:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Patrick Syring
I don't think the ip editor is going to be persuaded by appeals to Wiki policy. Perhaps the article should be semi-protected? Dlabtot (talk) 04:26, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
I do not understand your thinking. If you look on Amazon, B&N, other book sites around the world, you will see my novels. You can also Google my name and see the lectures and signings I perform. I will abide by the rules, but I would like them clarified a little more. Thank you.

Remote Lands
Thank you for your message. Would you please be so kind as to give me some time to get this cleaned up and done properly? I would be very grateful. Burma124 (talk) 21:56, 2 May 2009 (UTC)Burma124 (Catherine)

William Woodruff
Hello, I'm processing the photo release for William Woodruff. I believe you need a ticket number, which would be 2009043010051169. Let me know if you need any more info.  howcheng  {chat} 17:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, never mind. I thought she was having you upload the photo, but it was attached to the OTRS ticket, so I uploaded it and added it to the article after all.  howcheng  {chat} 18:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

adding photos
OMG---is there not a simple way to add a few photos to an existing page I wrote? I have been reading about this topic and Commons and copyright on Wikipedia and find it all amazingly tedious. These are promotional corporate photos, w/ copyright held by the corp, and I have the corporation's permission to use them. I just don't want to spend 20 hours getting these into the article. You have helped me before and seem like you could simplify the matter for me. Please and thank you. --WBancroft (talk) 20:47, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

images
Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds a tiny bit more simple. I may be back in touch as this process unfolds and I feel like I'm losing my mind just trying to post a photo. --WBancroft (talk) 20:59, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Current DYK
I realise that, but it's referring to what they were called before they became Navy ships. "Henry Tudor beat Richard III at the Battle of Hastings"- he wasn't Henry VII until after the victory, just as they were not HMS X until after they were accepted into the Navy, which is what the hook is about. J Milburn (talk) 21:43, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
 tempo di valse  [☎]  00:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Adding names to chronological list of names
Hi. Thanks for your reply to my question about editing the LIst of Supreme Court clerks. I still am pretty confused. I'd like to add a name to the Stewart clerks, but I still can't figure out how to get to the place with the list of names and an edit function that shows me the template for the information.Wingate44 (talk) 03:42, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Mibbit AfD
I've completely rewritten the Mibbit article so you may wish to revisit Articles for deletion/Mibbit. The AfD nominator has also since been blocked. Tothwolf (talk) 10:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

CSD
Hi UKexpat, hope you don't mind but I've downgraded Brian Cannon to a notability tag as "most successful and accomplished professional wrestler." is IMHO an assertion of notability.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  18:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello -- Can you answer my questions?
I am wondering how the Wikipedia messages are appearing at the top of the Triple Point article? Who is allowed to add them? Can they be removed? Jen Svensson (talk) 18:11, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the input
I wasn't too concerned about the search engines, I was really just curious if I had missed a step in the article-making process.

Thanks! --Back on My Feet (talk) 18:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Adding to list
Thanks for the information. It sounds far too complicated. Another message suggested that I could put the information on a talk page and have a regular editor add it. Is this a process you are familiar with? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wingate44 (talk • contribs) 19:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your help
Thank you Jen Svensson (talk) 19:56, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

apologies
Thanks for the speedy deletion. I was goofing around and it was bad. Derekbd (talk) 20:46, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

my name in red!
good evening, please could you tell me why my name appears in red ? is it because I haven't been here for a while (I was busy in the French)? many thanks in advance Hope&amp;Act3! (talk) 20:54, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah! OK, I didn't know that. It so happened that I registered in order to participate in the competition in the French wiki (I translated the History of the Kurdish People) and there too I haven't really created my user's page (except for the mention of my participation in the said competition, well may be that sufficed...) and since I've been too busy, so I'll fix that, I wonder how though. thanks again, Hope&amp;Act3! (talk) 21:22, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I added a Babel box and I'm blue (and never the less happy indeed), now why History of the Kurdish People does appear in red -that article is extant- ? can you answer that one ? I'm confused, thank you and good night Hope&amp;Act3! (talk) 21:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * well done ! I almost thought of that but discarded it... too much self confidence, shame on me. since you're still not sleeping, how about an early breakfast ? you'll be my guest but you have to come to my city (Jerusalem) OK Hope&amp;Act3! (talk) 00:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

New contributors' help page‎
Well that was certainly inefficient of us. :) I probably should have assumed you were in the middle of answering the others too. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Reviewing a New Article
Hello UKexpat. Thanks for your advice on images in response to my query yesterday. I have posted a new article on Wikipedia and I was wondering if you would go look at it and see if you spot any "problems" or have any advice for me. I have great black and white photos to add but since that is such a process, those will come later. Just want your opinion overall of notability and if I'm meeting Wiki standards (I think I am). The article is titled James Edward Hanger. Thanks.--WBancroft (talk) 03:17, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Harold Pinter
Hi, I have listed the above article at WP:WikiProject Biography/Peer review/Harold Pinter and wonder if you would have time to give the article a thorough peer review. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:27, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Input on Mumble-Jumble
Ukexpat, Thanks for your input on my post. There are a number of news paper articles and TV new reports which reported events about Mumble-Jumble. Could you direct me to a Wiki page that could show me how to include these references. Thanks again! --69.250.195.38 (talk) 14:49, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Respecting Living Persons
Leaving a red AfD flag on a "deleted" bio page of a living person is not a deletion of that bio at all. Instead it creates a very negative image of that person when people visit the URL. It implicitly represents a judgment and a disqualification and thus impugns the excellent reputation of the individual. For the sake of fairness and neutrality Wikipedia must adopt and implement a policy that differentiates between a living person and an impersonal subject matter when installing templates that might cast aspersions. If you chose not to include a biographical article about a living person in your encyclopedia that is fine, but out of respect and commitment to neutrality, please make sure to remove and blank any red flags and tags and all references to deletion, in order to preserve the individual's good name and standing in contemporary society. Thank you. - CulturalUniverse Wikipédien aux pieds nus 22:40, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Question on Flags and wiki
I wonder why the flag icon has been removed from company info box as i followed template from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogg_Robinson_Group, if this article allowed flag then Remote Lands should also allow flag :)

Also any suggestion on Remote Lands article, cause i know it is currently the speedy deletion flag is placing on it. We are rewriting it abit but proper guidance may needed

Thank you verymuch scudo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scudo1234 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

James Edward Hanger
Thanks for the nomination and the complements. Thanks also for improving the references and simply taking the time to be interested. After my first article and numerous issues/rewrites, I tired to be extra objective, clear, well documented on this one. James Edward Hanger is an interesting figure, don't you think? Truly, his work changed many thousands of lives for the better. What's the DYK stand for? You made my day...actually, my week!!!--WBancroft (talk) 16:47, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

James Edward Hanger
Nevermind...DYK: Did you know? --WBancroft (talk) 16:48, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Team Strawberry
Just a quick thanks for your improvements to my first article. I'll get all this figured out before I start the next one. Cheers!--Yourdailywiki (talk) 17:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

photo
Thank you so much--Woodruff (talk) 18:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Prejean
Do you really have an opinion on it? I personally think that it is unecessary, but I'm not opposed to paraphrasing. Soxwon (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

OCK
Thank you very much for your help about the picture of oceano club de kerkennah!!!

Vernito —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vernito (talk • contribs) 20:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Frank Lorenzo
Thanks a ton for helping to shut down Wikilore. The guy has been trying to revert that page for MONTHS. You and MikeWelch did a great job and also showed how to shut down a miscreant like that. Thanks!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.219.235.234 (talk) 01:47, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

ENEMIES WITHIN
Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. Vandalism cannot and will not be tolerated. Common types of vandalism are the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, and the insertion of nonsense into articles.

Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not vandalism. For example, adding a controversial personal opinion to an article once is not vandalism; reinserting it despite multiple warnings is (however, edits/reverts over a content dispute are never vandalism, see WP:EW). Not all vandalism is obvious, nor are all massive or controversial changes vandalism. Careful thought may be needed to decide whether changes made are beneficial, detrimental but well-intended, or outright vandalism.

Enemies Within did not deliberatly attempt to comprimise the integrity of Wikipedia. According to your rules vandalism are the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, and the insertion of nonsense into articles. I did not do any of those things. I made an edit adding factual information and gave my source. I did everything in good faith. Brown Brother Harriman has a lot of evil to hide I was just speaking on that. My input was well-intended, it was not outright bull**** or vandalism I was reinserting the truth, vandalism should at least be a lie. Now, I would like to add to Brown Brothers Harriman without being labeled a vandal and threaten with banishment.Enemies within (talk) 09:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

A call for peace & sensible debate
All - I have been making edits as you well know in an attempt to take point of view (POV) comments out of Frank Lorenzo's page. Of course, folks on the other side of the table likely feel the same way about their edits. I urge us all to try a novel approach and stick to the facts and only the facts. I suggest we debate the facts in this discussion board, come to an agreement that excludes all POV and then implement this agreed upon data into the page. If we stick to the facts, I have no problem representing those in Frank Lorenzo's page.

Thus, in following I suggest we tackle the following first: currently the page has a heading that says "Banned by U.S. Department of Transportation." Frank was never banned by the US Department of Transportation. If anyone disagrees, I suggest they provide government documentation to support this claim. The facts are that an application by a company called ATX Inc. was submitted and was declined by the US Department of Transportation under the newly elected Clinton Administration, which is well documented. Frank was a Director and investor in ATX, Inc. He was never banned and such language paints a negative picture. Please provide further factual edits to the following below with a view to posting it once we all agree:

"ATX Inc. Lorenzo was part of a group of executives that formed ATX, Inc. and applied for an aviation license. He was a director and investor in ATX, Inc.  Under the newly elected Clinton Administration, ATX, Inc.'s application was declined and the startup airline folded as a result."

I look forward to hearing others' constructive input and hope we can edit Frank's page with factual data only.

Sincerely,

Wikilore —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikilore (talk • contribs) 17:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Just as an aside here, discussion on the content of the Frank Lorenzo page should take place at Talk:Frank Lorenzo, so as to involve all editors who wish to contribute. Dayewalker (talk) 17:57, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed, Talk:Frank Lorenzo is the appropriate place for this content discussion. Of course if User:Wikilore had actually engaged in such a discussion when these issues first arose... – ukexpat (talk) 18:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Brown Brothers Harriman
I disagree with your ugly opinion of my edit of Brown Brothers Harriman. The aggrivated terminology you used "diatribe" and "rant" shows you are not very open minded or concerned with the truth being published on wikipedia. The reference that I used to edit was just as direct as the reference used by the arthur of the article. I'm sure you have never checked the arthur's sources either. Besides "ranting" as you call it, is not vandalism "Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism." I was speaking facts which the arthur did not want revealed. Avril Harriman wiki and other wiki articles reveal these facts, so why shouldn't BBH. Anyway, I do agree I should not have keep reinserting after being warned. Good dayEnemies within (talk) 19:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Federal Election Commission members
Here are the six members of the Federal Election Commission, as of May 9, 2009.


 * Donald F. McGahn II - term expired
 * Steven T. Walther - term expired
 * Ellen L. Weintraub - term expired
 * Cynthia L. Bauerly - June 2008 - confirmed June 24, 2008 for a term expiring on April 30, 2011
 * Caroline C. Hunter - June 2008 - confirmed June 24, 2008 for a term expiring on April 30, 2013
 * Matthew S. Petersen - June 2008 - confirmed June 24, 2008 for a term expiring on April 30, 2011

You changed Caroline C. Hunter to Start class rather than Class C, but the other five commissioners are all Class C.

I wrote or rewrote all of these articles, and of course I disclaim any ownership, but I am trying to learn how to do new articles better. Perhaps I will move on to another federal commission or agency.

Why should any of these articles be rated Start rather than Class C? They have inline citations of reliable sources, whatever details about their lives that are available online, photos from the FEC except for McGahn, whose term has expired, and as far as I can do it, a neutral point of view. --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:32, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

HELLO FROM Will
Hi Nigel,

I am sorry I have been out of contact - my wife has had an unexpected cancer operation and it has been a very difficult and worrying time. Now I have been catching up on the gardening! I will think about new projects. All best, Will Wfm495 (talk) 20:48, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Err...thanks for the welcome!
If I may, I'd love to ask you how to edit a comment on the help page. Someone responded to my query, and it is resolved. How do I indicate that?

Thanks so much, Michmck (talk) 02:27, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Is it a joke
Where is the personal attack ? Are you serious ? 88.166.140.196 (talk) 04:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * , is one of the personal attacks. -- Esa nchez (Talk 2 me or Sign here) 04:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * And this one too. – ukexpat (talk) 13:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Question on Document that i've written
--Scudo1234 (talk) 08:15, 11 May 2009 (UTC) hello, There are some flag and speedy deletion marked on my documents "Remote Lands" can you guide what we need to do to remove those flag?

I really do appreaciate your comments

Best Regards, Scudo

Krikorian
Hey buddy I noticed that you were working on the David Krikorian page, it is my first page and for the life of me I cannot get the picture to show!! It's starting to really frustrate me! I have followed all the protocols but still I get nothing! Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportsblogger327 (talk • contribs) 14:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

New contributors' help page
Hi, Thank you for deleting it, I have just sent an email to delete the page, requesting deletion. I am new to wikipedia, and didnt realy know what I was doing. Please can you tel me where the correct place is to post an article.

Thank you

Esbright —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esbright (talk • contribs) 14:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Images
Sorry to bother you like this but it is my first wikipage! I have the picture downloaded on my desktop, so you're saying I need to upload the pic to wiki?! How do I go about doing that exactly?! Again sorry please excuse my novice wiking skills. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportsblogger327 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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Cote d'Or
Hi - I am new to editing wikipedia, so I am learning! I didn't realise that references to wikipedia were not allowed, so I have changed these to other source material. The rest of it is verifiable. I'll keep trying to get it in order, but just deleting whole sections doesn't help me much. Just give me advise on what level of sourcing and how to word things better and I'll get it right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocoaverification (talk • contribs) 09:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Frontier Natural Products
Hello UKexpat, I recently submitted the article and I see that you've added an advert tag to it. I do not work for Frontier, am sincerely just a fan that started looking for information about them and was frustrated that there wasn't a wiki on them. I thought there might be others like me, so I did some research and posted the article. This is my first wikipedia article. I also see that you are a Wikipedian expert and editor. Could you help me by telling me what aspects of the article I should change to make it less like an advertisement? I would like to get others to edit this for a more diverse article but no luck yet. Thank you for your time and consideration.--Zingster9 (talk) 15:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for the help, I'm new writing these articles so I appreciate the cleanup. Quick question, what is the difference between stating what Jalil has done and it being considered a celebrity rumor? Thanks I want to make sure I'm doing the right thing XLMasters (talk) 19:52, 13 May 2009 (UTC)XLMasters

Thank you
Thank you so much for your help with my article. I know that it does still sound a little promotional, but I tweeked a few more things and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look at it. Just let me know what you think and what parts in particular need the most work. Thank you so much for all of your help! Clinehan (talk) 20:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Pala Casino Resort and Spa
You recently tagged an article that I worked on Pala Casino Resort and Spa. I have some questions about your tagging.

You tagged that it doesn't cite any references or sources. I linked to the official page where all of the information was taken from. Are official pages not acceptable for citing or do I need to tag each sentence with the specific page on the official page?

Next, you tagged it with peacock terms. I wrote this page based on other small casino/resort pages. Sure it doesn't have the history or revenue, but it has the gambling area, number of rooms, number of slots, number of gambling tables, address, signature attractions, restaurants, and information on the spa. What other information is needed to avoid being tagged that there is no real information?

Finally, you tagged that it is written as an advertisement. I can kind of see that and will work to correct that.

Please get back to me. Thanks Sean118 (talk) 01:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

How do I become an uploader?
How can I change my status to be an uploader, so that I can contribute my photographs to pages without photos? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vnerres (talk • contribs) 02:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Rehoboth Carpenter family
After Iwanafish replaced Jrcrin001's "compromise" version of the article with the same, deeply flawed one of his own, I put back the tags--which Iwanafish promptly deleted--that are specifically relevant to his many mistakes, baseless claims, lack of neutrality, failure to discuss, etc. (As you see, he continues to behave like a spoiled child.) It was wholly appropriate for you then to restore Jrcrin001's version. But while the latter is a long way from perfect in style, format, and organization, it doesnt' suffer from the inaccuracies, bias, etc., of Iwanafish's version and therefore doesn't deserve--as Iwanafish's version does--the particular tags you added back in (even after removing one). Rather than my deleting the tags, perhaps you'd like to be the one to do so. But when Iwanafish restores his version (as he surely will), please feel free either to insert all five tags in it or replace it with Jrcrin001's version (without tags). Iwanafish is compiling a record of incivility--to say nothing of incredibly bad scholarship--that will soon get him barred from editing. Then we can fix the so-called compromise version in the knowledge that our efforts won't be nullified. Thanks. GeneZub (talk) 10:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Welcome
Thank you for your kind welcome. Any help and advice is very welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danny Agger (talk • contribs) 13:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Re Rehoboth Carpenter
The original page was written by me. It was just an innocent portrait of a New England family. The individual (Genezub) who attempted to obliterate what I had done, wanted the page to reflect his genealogical studies which are techinical and boring. Everything I stated in the original page is self-explainatory and in need of no further explaination. The one point of speculation re. the Culham origin of this family in no way attempts to offer it as anything else i.e. a surmise --Iwanafish (talk) 07:02, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Iwanafish - It is apparent you have a personal problem. I have been watching what has been going on. Your deliberate reverts without comments or explanations, your removal of warnings, your removal of formating, inline sourcing and wiki formats tell me you have no desire to help wikipedia. You are only here for your glorfication.  If I signed in with my own user name, you are the type of person to seek revenge in petty and stupid ways. You have a track record that stinks and anyone can see it. You are a wiki bully and worse. 75.162.132.144 (talk) 18:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * From the content of his version of the article, it's clear that Iwanafish believes that facts shouldn't be allowed to stand in the way of a good (i.e., his) story. "[T]echinical [sic] and boring" are his words for "well researched and objective." As disingenuous as Iwanafish's foregoing statements are, I see that even he knows better than to impugn the accuracy and thoroughness of my work. GeneZub (talk) 10:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Rehoboth Carpenter family - We have surveyed, we have compromised, we have repeatedly asked to user Iwanafish to communicate. He refuses with his snide comments and reversions to non-wiki versions. We have warned him "offically" a lot more than 3 times. Repeatedly, we have asked for mediation, we have asked for help and I do not know who else to ask. Can you pass this up the chain of editors?

User Iwanafish continues to disrupt and vandalize this page and it has spread his behavior to other pages. John Carpenter (bishop) John Carpenter, town clerk of London What else can we do but shut down the articles involved and provide warnings that when they are restored by user Iwanafish that they are garbage? Has wikipedia lost the ability to police itself? I am beginning to think this is a hopeless cause where such bullies can inflict such damage to wikipedia. What else can be done? John R. Carpenter Jrcrin001 (talk) 05:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Russ Laribee
Thanks. I put an expand tag on the article also. --24.119.32.80 (talk) 03:04, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Your tip for me
Thanks for telling me why my edit on Kevin Nalty, Cory Williams, and Fred's Wikipedia pages were deleted. I was wondering why! LOL. I'll be sure to cite the source next time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by YouTubeaholic2009 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome. This is my first time on wiki talk pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigjoedog9 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank You
This is my first time commenting at Wiki Bigjoedog9 (talk) 16:13, 16 May 2009 (UTC) Bigjoedog9

Removal of information
My edits weren't vandalism. They were unreferenced. Per Jimbo himself, if something's unreferenced on a BLP article, you don't just add "citation needed", you remove it.--Sandor Clegane (talk) 22:28, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Information.svg|25px|]] Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. My edits were not vandalism, and I don't appreciate you accusing me of such. There are ways of getting your point across without accusing me of 'disruption' (as all I did was remove unsourced material) and threatening me.--Sandor Clegane (talk) 01:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

A courtesy note - you are being discussed at Administrators'_noticeboard. I've also left a note for you at User_talk:Sandor Clegane. Kevin (talk) 04:20, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Thanks for your response. It appears I have made this word up
 * 0

Made sense to me when talking to another Alcoholic yesterday. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnos Grove (talk • contribs) 21:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

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Cheers
Hi Ukexpat,

Thanks for your welcome. It's my first change but I don't think the last one. It's a bit daunting to get into the wikipedia community but I'll slowly get my feet wet.

Cheers,

Miguel Mayher (talk) 20:11, 20 May 2009 (UTC)Miguel Mayher

Vormittag Associates Inc.
On the other point ... in case you ever run for admin and someone says you got this speedy tag wrong, I'm happy to say you didn't get it wrong, that appeared to be right out of their brochure ... probably because it was :) - Dank (push to talk) 22:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Richard Bamping
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Declined Speedy Deletion: Aptech
Hello Ukexpat, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Aptech - a page you tagged - because: Criterion G11 does not apply: the page is not unambiguously promotional. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any queries, please let me know. A le_Jrb talk 14:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

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I made a contribution to the page "Leo Mackay, Jr.", saved my work (using the 'save page' button). Looked at a nice preview, but the page was unupdated...why? Eagle3315 (talk) 10:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for your help. I'm new to Wikipedia editing, so I'm glad someone tried the fix and it worked.--Aroger4that (talk) 21:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to misinform
Thanks for correcting me. I guess I need lessons in "hello-ing"....lol...--Buster7 (talk) 02:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Vadalism
Hello Ukexpat,

It was brought to my attention from one of my guys that my page was vandalized yesterday. The vandal altered information in the Bodybuilding section. The info was undone and set back to the previous correct version. The IP address of the vandal is 173.48.251.143 Is there any way to find out who this vandal is or at the very least block them? I'm not very familiar with Wikipedia tech and security measures. Is there an option that can be enabled inside my account that immediately notifies me when a change has taken place that is pending to my artical so I can approve or disapprove it so this does not happen again? Thank You very much for your time!

Jaderocker (talk) 14:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks Again for your help!

Jaderocker (talk) 18:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Solomon's Knot Thank You!
Thank you for placing Solomon's Knot. How do I put this under the category of SYMBOL? --Fluffer Nutter (talk) 05:35, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Your response to my question
Thank you for your quick response. I am a babe in the woods here. This is my very first attempt to contribute to Wikipedia. I have a wide range of interests, and have found Wikipedia to be an amazing source of information. Hopefully, I can bring some of my knowledge to the table as well.

The small task I am trying to accomplish here is to add the name of Jimmy Sabater (now often referred to as Jimmy Sabater Sr., since he has a son of the same name who is attempting to follow in his footsteps as a musician and singer). I became a fan of Jimmy Sabater back in the 1960's here in New York, while I was an undergraduate student. I am a chemist and an educator, currently employed at a university; but I also had a 20-year career as a professional musician. During that time, I had the opportunity to perform with Jimmy Sabater on a number of occasions. He is internationally famous in the field of Latin-American music as a singer, percussionist, and composer. Today, I was surprised to find, while searching for the name of another musician on a Wikipedia page that lists famous people of Puerto Rican birth or descent, that Jimmy's name did not appear on that page. I would like to correct that omission.

There is a biographical entry for Jimmy Sabater[], and a search of his name reveals fourteen internal links, eleven of which are actually relevant.

This is a link to an article about him at an external website:.

I can think of no reason not to include him in a list which includes many of his contemporaries, some of whom cannot claim anywhere near the level of accomplishment and recognition by his peers and by the public that Jimmy can. So, the question is: how do I accomplish this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Borodinmusic (talk • contribs) 03:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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Hey from PinkyLord4407
Hey, ukexpat! I believe I've seen you at the help desk, right? -PinkyLord4407 (talk) 01:11, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your help. I have a response from another user who, from my posting on the talk page, has agreed to update the list. Borodinmusic (talk) 04:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey again
Yeah, I just noticed one of your userboxes read, "This user is a help desk patroller." Facsinating. :-) -PinkyLord4407 (talk) 05:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Just a short note to let you know that your opinion expressed on my page is valued and respected. I do not use HG in any content disputes. My reversion was based on the blanking of cited content. See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  00:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Greater Manchester June Newsletter, Issue XVI
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Copy edit request
Hello, I was wondering if you might be willing to take a look at Magdalena Neuner. The text could use an expert look. It has quite a few tables, it isn't an enormous amount of text. No problem if you don't have time or if you are not interested. EnemyOfTheState undefined 14:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Editing Language
I have a question about the code(s) used in wikipedia when editing a document. I`m currently making an edit to an existing Wikipedia reference about a Japanese town, but when I try to make a chart listing things like (country, region, prefecture, population, population density, etc...) the only list command I can find is   {{Japanese city

I`ve tried other things like   {{Japanese town       and    {{Japanese village    but all that shows up in the preview is  "Japanese town/village template". I`ve searched online for Wikipedia cheatsheets and other commands, but can`t find anythign specificially related to this problem.

Any tips?Shakai jin (talk) 07:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Ooops! Sorry for directing the question to the wrong person/place >_< Will do! Thanks for the help!--Shakai jin (talk) 01:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Draper.
From Ukexpat..."Don't give up - you could create your rewrite in a user subpage, then ask on the article's talk page for other editors to take a look ".

Thanks for that Pat. That is an encouraging idea. I just went about my rewrite in a slightly wrong way, best regards. (Off2riorob (talk) 17:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC))

What is your problem? It is a list of the Dupont's current operationg locations. My reference is the company's 2009 Annual Report. If you would stop deleting it, I would finish cleaning up the language and appearance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.146.104.130 (talk) 18:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Sharon Wilkinson - question
Do you think this article meets WP:POLITICIAN or will survive the articles for deletion process? I want an honest assessment. Thanks.--Sevenagechunt (talk) 23:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I mean, she seems to meet the third of those.--Sevenagechunt (talk) 23:27, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcoming hello :-)
I appreciated your little note. Thanks. I hope the contribution will not be cut this time. Last time I went about it incorrectly. Take care.--Pepegee (talk) 23:41, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome - questions...
Hello UKexpat,

Thank you for welcoming me. I have been researching information about an music artist and have read some of the guidelines for properly writing such an article. I have a few questions....

If I own a photo of the artist Im writing about, is that photo OK to use and if not what do I need to know in a nutshell to make it OK. Also, how do I get the photo registered on Wikipedia for use in my article once I know it's OK?

Next, is there a basic template to use for writing such an article on a music artist, this being a musician/composer. What are the differences between what Im reading about being called a "stub" and something more elaborate. And based on what I state to you in this message, what you think might suite my article best? And where do I find those templates and how do I apply them?

Next, a few things with regard to the artist's work... The artist Im writing about has in fact written music for a nationally released TV show on many occassions. Has also performed with well known artists both live and in the studio that have their own accepted articles in Wikipedia and has released many of his own CDs, his last of which has been reviewed in other 3rd party on line sources such as AllAboutJazz & JazzReviewMagazine. With these things stated above, would it be safe to say that the artist Im preparing to write about would in fact pass Wikipedia standards for acceptance to have an article written about him?

Finally, since Im new to this game, just explain breifly how to continue this conversation with you if I have more questions as I go. Thank you. Write2Wiki (talk) 18:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)