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Il y a des jours... et des lunes
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 * There should be enough material and references in the article by now. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 19:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Un autre homme, une autre chance
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Speedy deletion of Castelbouc
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 * While I'm not sure the vandalism tag is appropriate, I do think the article should be a redlink (for now). I intended to delete under R3 - Implausible typo - as it appeared to be a village in a region of France, but redirected to another such village. A redirect to a regional subdivision would be appropriate, but not to a similar but unrelated jurisdiction - the rule of thumb I was taught is that we redirect up, not sideways. Sorry for any confusion. UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 13:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, wrong csd tag was inserted...should have been, Apologies!, --Badgernet (talk) 13:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ultraexactzz: Thank you for your reply. According to your definition, the redirect was appropriate: Castelbouc is a village part of the commune of Sainte-Enimie. It was in fact redirecting up and not sideway. The commune in France is a territorial subdivision, which typically covers several villages in rural areas. If you look at the French Wikipedia, you will see that Castelbouc is described within the Sainte-Enimie article . Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 13:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I've restored the redirect - that's my dumb fault, I read that the target was "...a village..." in France, and that the map appeared to note the village, and didn't catch that the target is actually "...a village and commune...", which makes it an OK redirect. I also restored the one below, on the same basis. Again, sorry for any confusion. UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 13:52, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem! Thank you very much for your reply. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 13:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * SQL Bot also marked this page (Pougnadoire) for attention..., Regards, --Badgernet (talk) 13:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Badgernet: Thank you. It is the same case as Castelbouc. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 13:55, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Bercheny
Merci thank you very much that You helped me make and edit the Bercheny article.

Greetings from Hongrie! MagyarTürk —Preceding undated comment was added at 18:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC).


 * You are very welcome! Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 18:20, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Nana (2005 film)
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 * I have basically copied the info at Nana (manga) into a separate article. The link provided by the bot is most probably a copy of the Wikipedia article. Moreover, it includes the following mention: "The articles available here are licensed through the GNU Free Documentation License." For these reasons, I am removing the tag from the article. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 14:05, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

PROD warning
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If you create a film remember to link it at Hong Kong films of 1984. We need as many people building the lists as possible! The Bald One     White cat 15:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * OK. Thank for the hint! Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 15:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

The best thing is probably to copy the lists by year on the HKcinemagic website and fill the lists out on hhere with the titles like Hong Kong films of 1972 etc. I have created empty tables when you edit these pages to fill in anyway. I don;t mind the articles being stubbed, I welcome it, so long as it has the minimum requirements with an infobox, cast and reference/categories. Regards The Bald One     White cat 15:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hôpital Saint-Louis
Thank you for your addition of this article! kilbad (talk) 14:52, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. I saw your post and hought I would add it. It's still just a very short stub, though. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 15:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Summaries
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 * OK thanks for the reminder. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 17:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Model Housing Estate article
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 * All rephrased. Should be fine now. Thanks for the notice. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 20:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Shek Yam East Estate
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Unreferenced BLPs
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Articles for deletion nomination of Fatal Vacation
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 * Glad to see that this nomination has sparked a collaborative effort to improve the article. It now looks like it is going to be kept. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 14:51, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

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 * This is a false positive. The text at http://wiki.trytop.com/jaffe-road.html was copied from the Wikipedia article Jaffe Road, where the material of this article is coming from. I am removing the copyvio notice. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 08:50, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Wan Chai
Hi Underwater! If you don't mind, I'd like to explain a few things: I would like the section to be restored, with an tag to make it clear that it's incomplete. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:54, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wan_Chai&diff=444780222&oldid=444692237
 * Your edit summary was "we are not going to list each of the 10,000+ company's offices located in Wan Chai. This is an encyclopedia, not a business directory nor a phone book"
 * 1. It is possible to encyclopedically mention the major companies occupying a neighborhood or district of a major city. You may want to see what I started at Downtown Houston - Business related newspapers and general newspapers talk about office leasing matters all the time so such things can be encyclopedically mentioned.
 * 2. "10,000+ company's offices" - But how do we know that there are that many? Do you have reliable sources that state this? Who says it?
 * 3. The only businesses to be considered are Wikipedia-notable businesses and that includes major international airlines
 * My strategy is to start a section and build it up. When it becomes too big is when one decides "okay, what's more important and what isn't"
 * Wan Chai is a major business area in Hong Kong, which is one of the world's main business centres. Just to name a few, Central Plaza, Hong Kong (78 floors of offices), Three Pacific Place (40 floors of offices), Hopewell Centre, Hong Kong (64 floors of office), Shui On Centre (35 floors of offices) and MLC Tower (40 floors of offices) are located in Wan Chai. Major banks and multinational companies have their offices there. It is safe to say that you would need to list dozens if not hundreds of companies before reaching the level of relevance of "MIAT Mongolian Airlines's Hong Kong Branch Office" that was the one you listed, and for the record, was the only one listed at all when I made my comment. Now, given its importance, it makes sense to have an "Economy" section added to the Wan Chai article, which is a fairly decent one. Maybe starting with one single company, which will most probably not make the cut in the end, compared to others to be listed, was not the most engaging way to start it. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 19:13, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * What may help would be - which companies have their head offices in Wan Chai? Or - Who are the largest employers? If I knew which major HK companies were HQed there, I could start with that. I could use their "Contact Us" sections to source the business addresses.
 * While usually major companies are headquartered in, say, a city's CBD, this isn't always the case. For instance while Auckland CBD had a lot of operations, in 2004, of New Zealand's largest companies, only Air New Zealand was headquartered there.
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 19:22, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Most large companies in Hong Kong have their offices in Central, Hong Kong (Hong Kong's CBD), Admiralty, Hong Kong, Sheung Wan, Wan Chai, Causeway Bay, Tsim Sha Tsui and West Kowloon (International Commerce Centre). All these areas are geographically very close to each other. Regarding the economy of Wan Chai, I would say that, in addition to offices, retail and hospitality play an important role. Note also the role of the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre, located in Wan Chai North. I don't know where to find a list of the main companies headquartered in Wan Chai. The problem is compounded by the fact that, due to highly fluctuating rents, companies in Hong Kong tend to change their office location more than in other cities, and that such a list could become quickly obsolete and hard to maintain. Maybe a way to start a list would be to identify the tenants of the main office buildings of the area. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 20:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

At Central,_Hong_Kong I was able to find three major corporations (all banks) HQed at Central, Hong Kong and started it as an example. I'll also see where the old Cathay Pacific HQ was... WhisperToMe (talk) 04:39, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good. Some info you might find useful: Hope this helps. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 05:14, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * HSBC is HQed in London, but its CEO moved his office to Hong Kong in 2010
 * For other companies, you could have a look at Hang Seng Index. A number of the companies in the list should have their HQ in Central
 * The former Cathay Pacific HQ were in Swire House, in Central, not in neighboring Sheung Wan, as the article stated. I have created a link and changed the location in the airline's article. (you may need to download the document to view the pdf given in reference, which clearly gives an address in Central)

You can also see a list of major office buildings in Central here. Most HQs of large companies in Central should be in those buildings. Most of these buildings have an article in the Chinese Wikipedia, which should easily give you some more company names with Google translate. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 05:21, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the help! I'll take a good look at the Hang Seng list and the other stuff :)
 * BTW I said that Cathay Pacific HQ was in Sheung Wan since, when I put the address of Cathay Pacific Swire House into Google Maps, Google Maps said it was in Sheung Wan. If it's actually in Central, then thanks for correcting it!
 * WhisperToMe (talk) 06:09, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Welcome! You can have a look at the Sheung Wan article. It tells you where is the boundary between Central and Sheung Wan. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 06:27, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you need to use a dynamic map of Hong Kong, you can also try (click for "English"). More detailed than Google. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 06:32, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Removal of sandbox from 'Yeung Kui-wan' article
Thanks for removing the sandbox from the 'Yeung Kui-wan' article. I am not sure how it got there... I was trying to use My Sandbox on my User page....   Obviously, I have a lot to learn in that regard... Duncan.france (talk) 00:13, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, welcome. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 06:30, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Prostitution in Hong Kong article
Hi. It's about the Prostitution in Hong Kong article. I had re-inserted the same material you had which the anon user had deleted again. See ersatz-discussion at Talk:Prostitution in Hong Kong. Since you once re-inserted the material which the anon editor deleted, might you have a look at it again? I think the material on "compensated dating" as reported by CNN isn't off-topic and in a category of its own as a trend. User:108.67.153.215 keeps removing the material and also keeps blanking his talk page to get rid of vandalism warnings in 2010 by other editors. Also the anonymous editor wrote as his summary of reversion: "Bad faith accusations"??? I have no idea what the editor is talking about. We had no dialogue ever before that reversion. Unless he's talking about a previous re-insertion of the material by you?: Thanks and bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 06:19, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * 23:06, 1 November 2011‎ 108.67.153.215 (talk)‎ (17,771 bytes) (→Types and venues: See talk page, this clearly doesn't belong, reverting and making bad faith accusations is not constructive.) (undo)
 * 16:27, 31 October 2011‎ Underwaterbuffalo (talk | contribs)‎ (18,375 bytes) (Undid revision 458309841 by 108.67.153.215 (talk) There are better things to do than just deleting content you don't like. HINT: For instance, you can fix it.) (undo)


 * Thanks for the notice. The result in the article looks OK to me now. That's a fairly sensitive topic, and the slight overreaction of the anon user is probably a consequence of this. Thanks for rewriting the part. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 12:18, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Certainly. Best wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 00:08, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Bridges Street
I'm not sure I agree with the your deprod rationale. I appreciate your examining the Hong Kong road articles with a critical eye, and also your effort in improving Tin Chiu Street‎. I use the term 'stub' in a broad sense and not just raw wordcount, I meant an article containing directly relevant material. Bridges is a short road, and there is little on its colonial history; most of the material in that article is a coatrack. Of course, if there are notable landmarks, these ought to have separate articles: it's not an argument for keeping an article because notability isn't inherited. Just because an important landmark is situated on a particular street doesn't necessarily confer sufficient notability onto the road in question. There may be case for exception where many important landmarks are on the same road, like Rue Lepic. Having said that, I'm prepared to accept that there is much more to be dug up on this road and its importance to the colonial history, so I will accept it should exist. I must have prodded 80% of the articles in the above category, so would appreciate it if you could examine them in due course. -- Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 04:21, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * A road is made of asphalt and the buildings surrounding it. Regarding the Bridges Street article, on which I have spent quite a bit of time in the past, I can say at the very least that 3 buildings deserve mention: the Chinese YMCA of Hong Kong, the Bridges Street Market and the American Congregational Mission Preaching House, which was previously located at the same location. Plus the Sun Yat-Sen connection. None of these 3 buildings has its own article now, and considering the dynamics of Hong Kong related articles in the English Wikipedia, it could take another 5 years before they do, if they ever do. In the meantime, the Bridges Street article is a very acceptable location for gathering content about these buildings. Erasing the Bridges Street article now would just erase the material we have about the buildings. Also, since I have spent time working on this article in the past, I have realized that there is a potential to add more to this article, with very decent references. By de-proding the article, I would like to give more time to see this article being improved, in the spirit of WP:TIND. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 10:33, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Just to avoid your being surprised: I had a look at the list of articles that you have proded. I will go through them again carefully and you can expect me to deprod about 10 of them (out of about 80) for generally similar reasons. I trust that you will understand my rationale. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 10:42, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * It would only be surprising to see more than a handful of them being deprodded. I welcome your scrutiny of the prods, as people like yourself may be more tuned into the topic area and will be able to improve these quite a bit more easier than me. Regards, -- Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 14:31, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I have seen you do some great work on Hong Kong built heritage articles. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 16:42, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That effort serves to demonstrate that I care about creating quality articles that are on worthy subjects, and that I'm not attempting to delete a large number of articles willy-nilly. But I also have in mind the concerns of fellow wikipedia editors as to what is notable, a large number of the articles I prodded seem not to be. Maybe I just don't know where to look for information on street articles. Deryck informs me there was a certain publication which may serve as a reference, but it seems to be a printed work. -- Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 00:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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'''Thanks you for placing links on the improved article about Tai Mo Shan. You see, i am a native and i always hike up Tai Mo Shan and i know a lot of things that i want to share.''' Typhoonwikihelper (talk) 12:42, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thank you very much for this! Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 13:44, 5 February 2012 (UTC)


 * That's a nice one! Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Lam Kam Road / User:Ohconfucius
Could you stop him? He's killing articles around, and one of such an article is Lam Kam Road, a major road linking up Tai Po, Lam Tsuen, Pat Heung and Kam Tin. It isn't quite possible to undo every single edit of him. 218.250.159.25 (talk) 19:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Another such article is Cheung Pei Shan Road. It's a six-lane expressway and part of Route 9. 218.250.159.25 (talk) 19:07, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thank you. It's fixed now. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 10:56, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

York Road, and so on..
Is there any thing that we can do to stop User:Ohconfucius? He's ProD-ing and AfD-ing too many notable articles.. from York Road, Kam Tin Road, Cheung Pei Shan Road (part of Route 9 and a six-lane expressway) to 9 Queens Road Central. 147.8.202.87 (talk) 12:33, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The pace of AfD's and PROD's has been a bit high, but it is manageable now. The best thing to do is to improve the articles and take part in the discussions. If articles are deleted, then part of the material can be included in an article about the area, or the Route. Turning articles into redirects is also an option. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 12:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I looked at the Article alert archive and there were a huge number of articles that he had brought to AfD or ProD. Same of those articles should actually be undeleted. 147.8.202.87 (talk) 12:56, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I did not identify any deleted article that was worth keeping. If you feel that a decision to delete should be overturned, there is a process for this. See Deletion review. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 13:00, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

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Saint-Just-sur-Loire
Help needed in finding the actually intended redirect target for Saint-Just-sur-Loire. Thank you. ···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 11:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That should be Saint-Just-Saint-Rambert. I have corrected the redirect and added explanation (translated from French Wikipedia) on the Saint-Just-Saint-Rambert article. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 13:30, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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I was just looking at your contribs came across an edit you made on an article..a lot have to do with HK are you from there? I'm just curious just moved back from there I lived in Chai Wan for a time. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 00:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

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Roads and streets in Hong Kong
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 * Apropos your comment at the discussion and the improvement to List of streets and roads in Hong Kong, please see the following section for what I think. We'll deal with the table issues later—if there are any. Great work and thank you. Cheers, Philg88 ♦talk 21:36, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Gascoigne Road
Hi UWB. I closed the AfD on this one as keep but please can you do something about the lead? Having the flyover there is confusing and not in line with the style guide. Moving it to a seperate section is probably best, and from a comment at the AfD, I would imagine there will be some references out there to car crashes or whatever. Cheers Philg88 ♦talk 19:20, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you and congrats for the adminship! I am going to see what I can do for the lede. Not too sure about finding much info about the flyover though. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 19:40, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * And thank you. I hope you'll find the I wield the mop judiciously. That aside, I found this, which might help. Cheers, Philg88 ♦talk 19:52, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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Shattuck and Hussey
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Shek Chung Au moved to draftspace
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 * Certainly does not meet speedy deletion criteria. It is an officially recognized village of Hong Kong, with elected representatives, and as such qualifies for inclusion. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 18:40, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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 * Deprod'ed + Added "Awards and nominations". Typically a film likely to have solid sources in Chinese language, including the ones related to the awards. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 12:37, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

About Yuen Leng Yip Uk
Hi UWB,

I must admit I'm a bit puzzled about this.


 * "Chinese: 圍下??"

According to the pdf file you used as a reference, it would appear that it should be either 元嶺 or 元嶺村

Your thoughts about this?

Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:39, 7 November 2021 (UTC)


 * You are right, that's a mistake. Thanks for the note! I have changed the Chinese name to 元嶺葉屋, which is the one mentioned at the bottom of the HK government doc that I have linked. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 21:28, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

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There was a discussion at WT:PERM about a user whose  flag I removed. Among other concerns, that user was creating unreferenced articles. To justify this sloppiness, the user then produced a list of unreferenced articles created by users who have the autopatrolled flag. Pierre Pasquier (colonial administrator), recently created by you, is on this list. The affair has made its way to the Administrators' noticeboard so there may be further scrutiny going forward.

Please let me give a reminder what autopatrolled is for: this is a flag given to users who consistently create clean articles that do not require review by others. Should maintenance flags like "unreferenced" be required, this does not meet the requirements for autopatrolled. Could I thus ask you that you go please back to articles that you have recently created with a view of ensuring that any issues raised in maintenance tags (whether placed already or potentially needed) be addressed? And going forward, that you please ensure that new articles are clean so that they don't require review by others? Please feel free to ask questions. Here's good; please ping me if you do.  Schwede 66  23:24, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
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 * Also thanks for the clarification of the 'autopatrolled' status. I will keep it in mind and make sure that future articles I create are duly referenced. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 14:35, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Wo Hang (disambiguation)


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I've informed you of this because you converted Wo Hang from a disambiguation page into an article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with the speedy. Thanks. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 21:32, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

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In this case, with some HISTSPLIT magic, I've done that for you, so now the original DAB page is at the "(disambiguation)" title while your article remains at the base title. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she|they|xe) 00:53, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the effort and the explanation. That's helpful. 06:37, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you! Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 01:07, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Fei Ngo Shan Road
Would you have any idea why it was AFDed? 116.92.226.241 (talk) 11:14, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You can see the AfD discussion here for details. Also the last version of the article before being turned into a redirect is here. There was really nothing much found to be said about the road and the decision was to turn it into a redirect rather than having a near empty article. Note that the article was not deleted. Of course that can always be changed if one can bring content and references. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 12:00, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Would there be any list of AFD'ed or PROD'ed articles about this country? 116.92.226.232 (talk) 09:10, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You can check WikiProject Hong Kong/Article alerts for the current list and check the archive links in the top right part of the page. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 15:55, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

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 * No problem. It was a good refresher for me and an opportunity to add the copied template. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 13:27, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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All Saints Church
Hello Underwaterbuffalo. I have recently been targeted by User:Smasongarrison and one of the edits that was nitpicked was the on a disambiguation page. This user. Since you are one of the participants of the HK WikiProject and among one of the most active editors from there would you have any idea what the HKGW thing is exactly about and why the word Kowloon would attract her attention? Thanks. 58.152.55.172 (talk) 10:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The user is obviously referring to WP:HKGW, probably assuming that you are or acting like the editor described on this page. The whole story is quite a mystery to me and I am not really inclined to interfere. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 22:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I see. Irrespective of the GW thing is there anything wrong to mention Kowloon in this case in your opinion? (I still got no idea why I got charged for that and the user never bothers to explain.) 58.152.55.172 (talk) 11:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I have moved the entry under "China" on the disambiguation page. "Kowloon" or even "Mong Kok" is unnecessary disambiguation information on a disambiguation page. The target article All Saints' Cathedral, Hong Kong mentions Kowloon and noone is challenging this, as far as I can tell. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 17:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I am more inclined to include HK, Kln or the New Territories in such cases since they are mentioned in practically all situations with respect to this territory. They are, for instance, always included in postal addresses. Lists of shops and branches are always arranged this way too. What's more is that similarly named organisations or facilities can be found on both sides of the harbour, e.g. the Wah Yan Colleges, the KGV Parks. Bus routes are separately numbered, and there are different providers of some utility services. They simply function as provinces or states or departments although there isn't now any entirely symmetrical administrative tier at this level in most cases. Whether Hong Kong or other dependent territories should have their own sections is of course a separate issue and "contentious" for clearly mysterious reasons. 58.152.55.172 (talk) 10:20, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Disambiguation pages do not exist to detail information but to direct readers to relevant pages. If there is only one XYZ in HK, then the need to add location details on a disambiguation page is very limited. Duplicate cases like Wah Yan College and the King George V Memorial Parks are exceptions and can be/are further disambiguated on a case-by-case basis. WP:DABNOT provides further insights and recommendations. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 15:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)