User talk:Ungitow

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May 2022
Hello, I'm Semsûrî. I noticed that you recently removed content from Arapgir without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Semsûrî (talk) 08:09, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi. I made the edits because the Armenian history of the city was given undue weight. They also used poor quality sources. This is a presently-inhabited city in modern Turkey and yet the entire article is about Armenians in the 19th century. Also I corrected the source citations. I will restore my edit Ungitow (talk) 08:11, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Adding info without sources/removing sourced info is not a smart idea. --Semsûrî (talk) 08:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You should find reliable sources that back you instead. --Semsûrî (talk) 08:15, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * As I said on the Talk page, imagine if the entire page of Topeka Kansas was only about a Filipino community there. It's not an appropriate article as per proper weight and neutrality. It also has little to no relevance. I removed irrelevant parts that were being given undue weight, and I removed a citation that the Arapgir town itself has a majority Kurdish population. The demographics indicate that Arapgir town has Turks and some surrounding villages have Kurds. Ungitow (talk) 08:17, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Adakiko (talk) 08:30, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I removed content that had little to no relevance to the page. This content was cited but it was irrelevant. Maybe I should add some cited/sourced info about ketchup into the page on Arapgir too. What relevance would that have? "Ketchup is a sauce with vinegar and tomato"(source...). Refer to my talk page and edit summaries to see my reasoning and engage that reasoning if you want to dispute the edit. Ungitow (talk) 08:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Arapgir. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Adakiko (talk) 08:35, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.


 * @AdakikoWhy don't you engage my reasoning instead of taking the Semsuri user's opinion at face value? Ungitow (talk) 08:37, 2 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Stop edit warring, discuss the matter on the talk page, get wp:consensus, then edit. See wp:BRD. Adakiko (talk) 08:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I am discussing it. The article is in extremely poor condition. If you want more sources re the demographics, here is the City's own website https://www.arapgir.bel.tr/icerikdetay.aspx?icerikid=32.
 * I'm not edit warring, I fixed the article and this Semsuri user reverted my fixes and then presumably contacted you. He also reverted my edits to another page (Again erroneously claiming I didn't use sources). If he wants to engage my talk page he can do so and I will regard his input. I make a talk-contribution for every major edit I make and yet he has not responded at all on the Talk. Ungitow (talk) 08:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * There has been no discussion between us. I see you are also wp:edit warring on Stanford J. Shaw. Consider this a second notice. Adakiko (talk) 09:04, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You should try wp:Notifications for Semsuri. Adakiko (talk) 09:05, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @AdakikoIs he the king of that page? Why is he the arbiter? Or for the Stanford shaw page? You should honestly read it before and after and let me know what you think. Should Wikipedia be based on sentences like 'Shaw's views agree with the Turkish government view so he is wrong'. Or 'the death threat and bombing assassination attempt on Shaw was not really because campus Hillel said so' (source: Armenian news weekly). Ungitow (talk) 09:14, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Also I did @Adakikoping him. I'm sure you're aware but there are people out there with a political agenda who want to craft pages to fit their views, and they have done so in this case, and I am being prevented from fixing the page. If you or some other editor is the arbiter. I trust you can tell the difference from reviewing the changes. Ungitow (talk) 09:17, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I suspect you will soon find yourself wp:blocked for edit warring. With your wp:BATTLEGROUND mindset, I suspect you will have few sympathizers. I doubt any wp:administrators are reverting you. The pages have probably been that way for years. I doubt it will make much difference if it take a week or two to fix. Adakiko (talk) 09:29, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Honestly I'm curious. Who are the deciders? Do we vote? Or are there just a few users who get to report me to you and then have the moral high ground? I made good edits and I explained my reasons. Nobody engaged my reasons. I'll leave it here and see what happens but I doubt they will. Ungitow (talk) 09:31, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Important Notice
--Blablubbs (talk) 09:44, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

May 2022
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. --Blablubbs (talk) 11:42, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello Ungitow (talk) 14:05, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

On the above question, see WP:DR. But give talk a chance. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)