User talk:United191

Deletion discussion about Eva Haller
Hello, United191,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Eva Haller should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Eva Haller.

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks, Ireneshih (talk) 08:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
Northamerica1000(talk) 21:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

February 2014
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Thanks, BracketBot (talk) 22:25, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * dozens of industry leaders. The Board Chairwomen are Eva Haller and Michelle Douglas.

Calm down
I noticed your flurry of comments at Articles for deletion/Eva Haller as well as comments you made on the talk pages of users involved in that discussion. I would ask that you calm down. Wikipedia has notability guidelines and the community has to judge if it should be included based on objective criteria, not just because you have some attachment or appreciation of Eva Haller or any other subject. Your vociferous argument on the AfD discussion was off-putting to me and it might be to others as well. Even if this article is kept, please remember that you do not own it and other editors may change it as they see fit. Based on the AfD discussion I'm concerned that you would have a problem with that.

If you take Wikipedia too personally you're going to end up hurt. Sometimes what you want isn't compatible with our guidelines. In cases like that, it might be best for you to keep this article in a sandbox and work on it as new sources become available.

I'm not going to register an opinion on the Eva Haller article. I simply want you to realize how your comments can read to a third-party. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 03:46, 10 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Chris. Thanks for leaving me a message.  I'm new to this, as you know, and I apologize if any of my comments were off-putting.  That wasn't the intent at all.  Just from somebody new to this side of the site, I was surprised at the reason for deletion.  I understand that Wikipedia has guidelines on notability, and I have reviewed them.  In addition to the guidelines, I wanted to add my own personal feelings towards the deletion discussion, not to downplay the importance of the guidelines, but to add to the discussion.  I absolutely do not have any interest in 'owning' the page.  I chose her as a subject because I know about people and organizations from the non-profit field, and wanted my contributions to link to something I know about.  Again, I'm extremely sorry if it came across as off-putting.  I don't take this personally, but I had an opinion on the reasoning behind the nomination.  I want to make a substantive contribution to Wikipedia, and if this woman as a subject isn't, I'm confused as to what is.  Maybe I'll stick with cleaning up articles for a while after this instead of writing them!


 * If you have any advice for a newcomer besides what you've already provided, it would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to be a black sheep in this community! Many thanks, United191 (talk) 05:03, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * First, no apology is necessary. I understand that you're new and you're anxious about this article.  My comments are only meant to inform, not upbraid.
 * Second, I noticed you created Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Eva Haller and then created Eva Haller only three hours later, landing you in the current AfD process. The Articles for Creation WikiProject was designed to prevent exactly this sort of conflict.  While I readily admit the AfC process is slow, had you waited for guidance at AfC you could have saved yourself this sort of trouble. I'm going to decline that submission since you've already created the article in mainspace.  You'll also get an invitation to the Teahouse where you can discuss your questions with some experienced editors. New editors creating their first article typically represent a big stress point on wiki and Wikipedia truly seeks to resolve that problem.  We want to retain you as an editor.
 * You can be a black sheep in this community if you want to be; some are already administrators. We have an Adopt-a-User program where you get some mentorship.  If you'd like to gain experience on wiki, I would suggest looking at our Stub Sorting WikiProject.  Sorting stubs is one way to help ensure really short articles get attention from the right editors.  You might also be interested in joining WikiProject Biography.  They focus on developing biographical articles like Eva Haller and others that suit your interests. I hope you find your niche in the community.  Feel free to ask if you have other questions.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 05:39, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very, very much for introducing me to the Teahouse and all of these other resources! I'm kinda exited!  I think joining one of the projects might be my best bet, along with a mentor.  One last question about the Eva Haller article, though... how do I clear everything out there before I move on?  I want to be finished with it... to figure out whether it'll be deleted or kept.  Besides a request to have it closed, like I've already submitted, what's the procedure from here?  Is there anywhere else I could post?  I really want to get started on my next chapter with wiki.  Many thanks, United191 (talk) 18:01, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm answering here rather than my talk page; no need to duplicate threads. As you've gathered, you'll have to wait for an admin close the discussion. Just add the article and the AfD discussion to your watchlist and move on. It's out of your hands either way.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 03:23, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Eva Haller (February 10)
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Chris Troutman ( talk ) 05:40, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
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Your draft article, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Eva Haller


Hello United191. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "Eva Haller".

The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply and remove the  or  code. Please note that Articles for Creation is not for indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you want to retrieve it, copy this code:, paste it in the edit box at this link , click "Save page", and an administrator will in most cases undelete the submission.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. JMHamo (talk) 17:59, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Apologies regarding block
Hello. I'm very sorry for blocking you. I was tracking down some very abusive accounts via WP:CHECKUSER and in this particular instance didn't show adequate care when processing a WP:SPI case. This may all not mean much to you, but I messed up and you were caught in collateral. Thanks to User:Chris troutman for pinging me about this. Let me know if you need any help with anything in the future and please take my sincerest apologies. NativeForeigner Talk 18:31, 25 March 2016 (UTC)