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2022 Eastern Kentucky floods WP:BOLD merge
Hey. I'm not going to edit war you over this, but I highly encourage you to revert your WP:BOLD merge on the floods and do a merge proposal. The article was mid-way through an ITN nomination, linked to numerous Portal:CE days, and some editors who !voted keep on the AfD did not support a merge. Right now, you seem to be set in your way of merging it, even after I stated on the Talk:July 2022 United States floods that a merge proposal would be the best. You also said it was a stub, which is not true as it made it to start class. Please revert your merge and do a merge proposal. Elijahandskip (talk) 18:30, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I left my reasoning on your talk page. United States Man (talk) 18:31, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

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Aon Damage Total adders
Can you look at 2021–22 North American winter and figure out what to do. Two editors are determined to add Aon as the damage totals over NOAA and are willing to edit war for it. They are using some stupid RfC as a way to use Aon over NOAA damage totals, so yeah. Elijahandskip (talk) 03:22, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * THERE ARE NO NOAA TOTALS!!! 159.118.230.50 (talk) 03:40, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I’ll try. Might be this evening. I wish we could just ban anon users from WP:Weather completely. This IP jumping under different addresses is way out of hand. United States Man (talk) 11:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

ANI notice (More disruptive editing from WP:SEVERE)
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Just a head's up, User:12.153.230.177 mentioned one of your edits saying, ""That being said, I want to draw attention to a frivolous comment by United States Man, who is now proposing to ban IPs from WP Weather, which is 15 times more ridiculous then this entire ANI was before. Thought you should know, since they did not ping you or notify you previously about your comment being mentioned in an AN/I. Elijahandskip (talk) 23:51, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

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adding tornadoes to the list of tors from july-sep 2022
https://twitter.com/NWSTucson/status/1562947255031607296 https://twitter.com/NWSVegas/status/1562792355983306758 https://twitter.com/nwstwincities/status/1566932597334085632?s=21&t=2oTsXu8eqC0nGt2BwXl4PA Here are 3 tornadoes that need to be added, i suck at editing so i fugured id just forward the info to you. IndyPlaneSpot (talk) 17:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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Hurricane Ian
Having fun trading back-and-forth edits? Sarrail (talk) 00:18, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That was pretty funny how that worked out ;) United States Man (talk) 04:12, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

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"2021 Tornado outbreak in the Southern United States" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Martinsville Lap Record
Hey, I couldn’t figure out how to reference the time but I have this link that has the fastest laps. https://motorsportstats.com/results/nascar-cup-series/2022/xfinity-500/classification/race Also, the lap by Sacks was set in quali, not the race. Chastain’s lap should stand as fastest race lap. Luca tedesco712 (talk) 00:47, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll link in here. The problem is that the template for this info box was created by the authors of the FIA racing series segment. And in FIA racing series, official lap records only count if they were set in the race and not in qualifying or practice. For this reason, this template explicitly requires a race lap record. So we would first have to add to the template so that general lap records can also be entered there. --Mark McWire (talk) 22:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Accidentally reverted a bunch of May 2022 tornado info
Hey just letting you know that was an accident. I didn't mean to get rid of any info, in fact I was additional sourcing and information and something went wrong. My apologies. TornadoInformation12 (talk) 02:32, 31 October 2022 (UTC)TornadoInformation12
 * I know you didn't do that on purpose. I just figured you didn't realize that that happened. United States Man (talk) 21:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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Just a heads up
Just letting you know, I pinged you in a SPI because of the talk page discussion. Here is the SPI. Elijahandskip (talk) 04:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

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removing parts of templates on Tornadoes of 2022
why do you keep removing my edits on Tornadoes of 2022 for no reason? all i'm doing is adding more stuff to the summary templates and you're removing them without explanation. is there a reason why the totals for outbreaks shouldn’t be included? greyzxq talk 19:42, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If you would observe how those tables have been done in the last 15 years' worth of those pages, you would see that totals and casualties are never included there. United States Man (talk) 19:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * is there any reason why they aren't? same with the fact that if an outbreak is in the US it's not included in the subheading, but it is if the tornado is anywhere else. greyzxq  talk 20:16, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * ? greyzxq  talk 16:17, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Idiot on the Tornado outbreak of November 4–5, 2022 article
Can I get some help here? Some moron keeps wants to keep making one of the tornadoes EF4. I swear I'm sick and tired of this type of crap. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 00:25, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * There's literally no one here at all besides three or four that even know the simplest of things to do with these outbreaks anymore. United States Man (talk) 01:00, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

WikiCup 2022 November newsletter
The 2022 WikiCup has drawn to a close with the final round going down to the wire. The 2022 champion is
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During the WikiCup, contestants achieved 37 featured articles, 349 good articles, 360 featured article reviews, 683 good article reviews and 480 In the news items, so Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors. Well done everyone! All those who reached the final round will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or the overall leader in this field.


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Long tornado summary formats
The use of the "slash marks for state lines" format used in the November 4, 2022 and other recent articles firmly establishes that this is the way a majority of the editors here prefer to do it. I am not trying to start an argument, and I am not trying to be petty, but as it stands now, you are the only major contributor to tornado articles who wants it done differently, and because of this, you are essentially overruled at this point. Additionally, the fact that you don't seem to mind when others users use this format shows that there was clearly a "spite editing" element to the back and forth between us in relation to the December 10-11 2022 outbreak article, and that is not acceptable. It is not ok for you to be more trigger happy with reverting users you have had disagreements with (me), while "letting it slide" with others that you don't have a history with (newer editors), and that is very obvious at this point. I don't mean that in a confrontational way, but in order to keep the peace, you're going to have to accept that "my way" is the preferred format among most editors at this point. Put the spite to the side and just try to work collaboratively with others. Believe it or not, I really don't like butting heads with people, and I want to avoid future conflict when it comes to disagreements. Be patient, put your bias aside, and give the revert button a rest. TornadoInformation12 (talk) 00:08, 11 November 2022 (UTC)TornadoIformation12
 * Dude I didn't even remember that, nor did I realize that it was even still that way. Don't flatter yourself by thinking that for some reason I did that trying to spite you. I think you're definitely making Mt. Everest out of an ant hill by coming here and writing this long message. If it's any consolation, ChessEric and Elijahandskip also accuse me of singling them out, but it's obvious I don't do that to none of you. Many of you take this Wikipedia stuff too seriously. Just drop it lol United States Man (talk) 00:32, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The only reason I wrote a long message is because at the time, this was so important to you that you reverted every change to that format I made, and insinuated that you'd defer to reporting me for edit warring. That's why it is very surprising that you don't remember this, as it resulted in a ton of drawn out discourse, and you absolutely would not budge or relent. I think it's fair to thoroughly explain my reasoning, and show what I'm doing has precedent and validity because of what happened last time.
 * Regarding the "singling out" thing, that is extremely telling that I'm not the only one. I didn't even know that, but if there is one thing I have learned over time, it's that when multiple people who don't know each other come to you with the same complaint or concern, it is absolutely in your best interest to start listening to what they have to say, because that is not a coincidence. Even if you aren't singling people out, this is an indicator that you are at least behaving in a manner that gives that impression to several people. I am saying this with absolutely no malice, and whether you choose to acknowledge this or dismiss it is up to you, but I can definitely tell you which option of those two a reasonable and agreeable person would go with. I genuinely wish you the best.
 * TornadoInformation12 (talk) 02:05, 11 November 2022 (UTC)TornadoInformation12
 * Bruh. XD ChessEric (talk · contribs) 02:57, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes? ;) United States Man (talk) 03:08, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I was just poking around and found this. I think frenemies is a good way to describe our relationship. I respect you, but annoy the heck out of you at the same exact same time. Keep up the good work bud. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 07:05, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Head’s up
Hey. We have an editor working to remove the 2013 El Reno tornado from the list of possible F5/EF5 tornadoes. Talk:List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes/Discussion. They have already deleted it twice and I have reverted them twice. They also are determined to add the 2021 WK tornado to the list and aren’t taking anyone’s explanations into account. So be on the lookout for vandalism on List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes. Elijahandskip (talk) 20:32, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

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Interesting tidbit for the Tornado outbreak of March 2–3, 2020
I heard something interesting recently that I thought may be worth adding if we can find a source for it. I was at club meeting on the night of the Tornado outbreak of November 4–5, 2022 and the topic of the Nashville supercell came up. From what I was told, the person handling the warnings that night was no properly trained and there was some trouble for the NWS Nashville because of it. I don't know how accurate this is, but if someone could find a source for that, I thought it would be a good detail to add. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 20:10, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know what kind of "club" this is, but I actually know that to be factually inaccurate. Anyway, it has no place in this article either way (we aren't in the business of NWS bashing). United States Man (talk) 18:06, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The club is called the Oklahoma Weather Lab. They also do some forecasting for the region. Thanks for letting me about the truth by the way. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 20:30, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

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Our “friend” might be back
I just started another SPI for Andrew5 after I got 3 duplicate IP comments on 2022–2023 California floods, which then escalated (after a single reversion) to a noticeboard discussion. I pinged you in that discussion. Just thought you would want to be aware since I am strong WP:DUCK suspicion that the sock master is back. Elijahandskip (talk) 22:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I know he’s back. There’s several IPs that I’ve seen. I’m getting tired of the admins either giving it a slap on the wrist or not doing anything at all. United States Man (talk) 13:47, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Griffin, GA EF3 tornado wording
Hey I reverted your good faith edit about the confusing tornado merge that occurred during the Griffin EF3. So I see why you changed it, as based on the DAT contour map, it looks like the satellite itself was responsible for the EF3 damage. However, the survey text attributes the EF3 damage to the main tornado, and this was the only EF3 damage along the whole path. Because of this, I have to change the wording to avoid confusion. If the wording in the survey text was different, or the satellite tornado itself was given an EF3 rating, I'd go with your wording, but I can't given the overall rating designation and description of the event. TornadoInformation12 (talk) 06:22, 26 January 2023 (UTC)TornadoInformation12
 * You "can't", but that doesn't mean you get to dictate what others write. You try to rewrite and take ownership of all the articles after the fact, which is highly annoying. United States Man (talk) 01:34, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

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recent edits to the may 21-26 2011 outbreak
Why is there a giant blank template in the article that you reverted back to? IJustLookUpRandomArticlesSometimes (talk) 14:26, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

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I'm done
Your reverts of my edits on this article seem dumb to me. There was a discussion at the talk page of Winter Storm Elliot about bolding the name "Winter Storm Elliot" in the lead, and although it was WP:COMMONNAME, it was not bolded. If it was said by Ted Fujita, it at least deserves a mention. I'm taking a half-break to get away from this exact situation. Good job. You really did something. Poodle23 (talk) 02:28, 23 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I guess I'm not taking a break after all, as I edit WP too much to take a break XD
 * Also, technically this is my 1000th edit on this website! Poodle23 (talk) 23:38, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to pick on you, but I think you could just step back a bit and spend a few months learning from others around here. That will help you in the long run, and it's how I learned a long time ago (even though I sometimes don't seem to use that knowledge). United States Man (talk) 23:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * If i may interjet here as the editor who found out that Ted Fujita had proposed to call the super outbreak the Jumbo Outbreak, when doing some more research on Winter Storm Naming in the US. My feeling was that it was important to note that it was called that in the Winter Storm Naming article as it maybe moved to a global article about weather system naming in the future. However, I really wasnt sure how it would go down in the Outbreak article and decided against putting it in.Jason Rees (talk) 01:16, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It doesn't need to be bolded in the lead. It seems out of place and wrong. It could be mentioned elsewhere in the article, but not bolded. United States Man (talk) 02:45, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Question
You keep saying from time to time that you dont like the way the project is going. As a result, I was wondering in what direction would you like the broder weather projects on Wikipedia to go while being compliant with Wikipedias rules? Jason Rees (talk) 14:54, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 March newsletter
So ends the first round of the 2023 WikiCup. Everyone with a positive score moved on to Round 2, with 54 contestants qualifying. The top scorers in Round 1 were:


 * Unlimitedlead with 1205 points, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with two featured articles on historical figures and several featured article candidate reviews.
 * Epicgenius was in second place with 789 points; a seasoned WikiCup competitor he specialises in buildings and locations in New York.
 * 🇩🇪 FrB.TG was in third place with 625 points, garnered from a featured article on a filmmaker which qualified for an impressive number of bonus points.
 * 🇺🇸 TheJoebro64, another WikiCup newcomer, came next with 600 points gained from two featured articles on video games.
 * Iazyges was in fifth place with 532 points, from two featured articles on classical history.

The top sixteen contestants at the end of Round 1 had all scored over 300 points; these included LunaEatsTuna,  Thebiguglyalien,  Sammi Brie,  Trainsandotherthings,  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski, 🇮🇩 Juxlos,  Unexpectedlydian,  SounderBruce, 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Kosack,  BennyOnTheLoose and  PCN02WPS. It was a high-scoring start to the competition.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start again from scratch. The first round finished on February 26. Remember that any content promoted after that date but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Some contestants made claims before the new submissions pages were set up, and they will need to resubmit them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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Bold ratings
I just wanted to confirm this because I asked this before, but I hadn't gotten an answer. You have been bolding ratings when modernizing totals as well as when you made the Tornado outbreak of March 2–3, 2020 article a GA. I'm just wondering what you are doing that for so that I understand why you're doing that. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 23:42, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

"Suing" to restore the original colours
I am interested in finding a way to marshal support for restoring the original storm-track colours. Evidently people with actual disabilities were not consulted prior to the recent, disruptive changes, which were conducted in an autocratic manner and whose "solution" was worse than the original version. If the original colours are not restored, I am seriously considering ending once and for all my contributions on Wikipedia. The latest changes are but the most recent symptoms of an increasingly untenable system of management. Political correctness has gained unfettered rule. CapeVerdeWave (talk) 19:51, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I would strongly suggest that you read through the discussions carefully, before saying that the colours were done in an autocratic manner and/or threatening to sue, as they were done through several RFCs with consensus built and were generally closed by independent Wikipedia editors. I would also state that the colour discussions were open to all and had people with disabilities comment during them. I would also comment that I am also disabled and had a cataract last year, which significantly restricted my vision. It is also worth noting that "marshal[ing] support" to restore the original colours would probably be against Wiki's rules on canvassing.Jason Rees (talk) 20:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand and am under no circumstances interested in canvassing or legal action. Please feel free to remove this entire section. CapeVerdeWave (talk) 17:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

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Good article reassessment for 2011 Super Outbreak
2011 Super Outbreak has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 20:54, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Why are you opposed to change?
General question for you. Recently, you told me to "stop doing 180s on your editing habits". Over the last few months, you seem to almost be hell-bent on preventing any sort of change. You seem to have ignored administrator messages and alerts at AN/I. Every change done that affects the "how it has always been", you seem to be extremely determined to push back on it. I don't understand why you seem to always want to provoke other editors. I'm not just talking about myself either because we often do not see eye to eye. But even during the time we aren't fighting each other, I've seen you get into debates with so many other editors. You are a good editor...a really good one. I am honestly worried about your attitude though. Others notice it as well. You gave me some advice, so I wanted to give you some advice as well: Be willing to start discussions more than reverting. I started doing that with all the RfCs I started (which I know you hated). That said, it prevented arguments and edit warring. I honestly don't see many discussions ever started by you, but rather reversions by you. I believe if you start more discussions rather than just constantly reverting everytime you disagree with someone (not just me), you will become a better editor. Elijahandskip (talk) 02:32, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

P.S. I'm not going to start a discussion for the recent reversions. Elijahandskip (talk) 02:32, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Wynne EF3
I'm confused where you're getting the EF3 for Wynne in DAT from. I'm looking right at it and there's nothing published by MEG. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 17:15, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It's gone now. Probably was accidentally QC'ed and became visible in the public viewer. Looking like there's gonna be at least 8 EF3's confirmed by the end in addition to the Iowa EF4. United States Man (talk) 17:19, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

LR tornado
Hello, the tornado that hit lr hit western portions of the downtown by the way. I am a citizen of LR. It did hit western portions of the “central business district” Paducah2019 (talk) 03:21, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Looking at a simple map of the track would show that the tornado passed well west of the downtown area and well north of downtown North Little Rock. The fact that you live in the area holds no weight in the discussion. United States Man (talk) 03:23, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * What map are you looking at? Paducah2019 (talk) 03:24, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You could just look at the DAT bro. Chess  Eric  06:41, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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Second Bowling Green tornado
I'm curious as to your reasoning for the second Bowling Green tornado warranting a section. Its impact was of little notability, especially in the context of the outbreak, and the only bit of importance it seems to have is that it hit Bowling Green at the same time as the EF3. If it were not for that coincidence, I don't believe we would have even considered giving it a section. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 04:05, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That's just it. Bowling Green was significantly impacted by both tornadoes. These articles shouldn't be like robots. There should be some leeway from article to article on what we can do. Might could trim the EF3 section a bit, but I really see no harm in leaving it mostly as is. United States Man (talk) 04:14, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I'm working on rewriting the first tornado (User:Cyclonebiskit/BG) and leaving comments to get my thought processes across more clearly and why/how I've been trying to trim these down. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 04:19, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Infobox weather events
Hi! What warrants this agressive tone, If I may ask? --Licks-rocks (talk) 10:44, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * It seems like USM dislikes the new infobox and tries to subvert it when he can. His edit history at | 2011 Joplin tornado suggests that his is opposed to change even though it was actively agreed to and reverts things for "inconsistency", when it just hasn't been fully implemented yet. It's worth noting that this is only on non-TC articles as if you look at the list of pages Infobox weather event links to, it is mostly TC's with only a few non-TC articles, meaning that the inconsistency arguments doesn't work there (the inconsistency argument is also a form of WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST/WP:OTHERCONTENT, a thing to avoid).
 * @United States Man, please stop reverting things for inconsistency, it a violation of WP:OTHERCONTENT and stops progress, thank you. Infinity (talk - contributions) 00:08, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2023 May newsletter
The second round of the 2023 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to have scored 60 points to advance into round 3. Our top five scorers in round 2 all included a featured article among their submissions and each scored over 500 points. They were:


 * Iazyges (1040) with three FAs on Byzantine emperors, and lots of bonus points.
 * Unlimitedlead (847), with three FAs on ancient history, one GA and nine reviews.
 * Epicgenius (636), a WikiCup veteran, with one FA on the New Amsterdam Theatre, four GAs and eleven DYKs
 * BennyOnTheLoose (553), a seasoned competitor, with one FA on snooker, six GAs and seven reviews.
 * 🇩🇪 FrB.TG (525), with one FA, a Lady Gaga song and a mass of bonus points.

Other notable performances were put in by Sammi Brie,  Thebiguglyalien,  MyCatIsAChonk,  PCN02WPS, and  AirshipJungleman29.

So far contestants have achieved thirteen featured articles between them, one being a joint effort, and forty-nine good articles. The judges are pleased with the thorough reviews that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

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Unconstructive template editing
Template:Infobox weather event/meteorology is, as the documentation indicates, a template for meteorological data. Template:Infobox weather event/Effects is for storm effects. I'm surprised that you think adding casualties and affected areas as part of meteorological data is proper use of the template, especially when the two is only used (incorrectly) by Template:Infobox weather event/Tornado family (only used on a single page), and only due to your changes (1, 2). Polluting templates with unnecessary parameters make them unmaintainable and disorganized; this was the exact issue that Infobox weather event aimed to resolve with previous boxes. As the /Tornado family template has been updated to remove use of the parameters and re-aligned with existing infoboxes and 1974 Super Outbreak has been corrected to use the proper templates, they are essentially obsolete.

In the future, communicate before making changes, especially on a template used on over a thousand of pages and in a highly technical space that you don't seem to be that well-versed in, considering you didn't consider adding the /Effects box to the article in the first place. I'd be more than happy to execute these changes for you in a matter that takes into consideration the entire family of infoboxes, but only if you had at least made the effort to post on the talk page beforehand. Chlod <small style="font-size:calc(1em - 2pt)">(say hi!) 23:46, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Your WP:OWN behavior and edit warring has now broken infoboxes at 1974 Super Outbreak and other pages. I will be forced to take you to WP:AN/I if you do not make constructive corrections. United States Man (talk) 23:50, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * A thanks would be appreciated. Chlod <small style="font-size:calc(1em - 2pt)">(say hi!) 23:53, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm interested to know what "other pages" you speak of here. They are also likely using the templates incorrectly and against the documentation. Feed me a list. I'm willing to be the janitor that cleans this up for others. Chlod <small style="font-size:calc(1em - 2pt)">(say hi!) 23:54, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Why would I thank you for your display of being the template czar. I now have to fix it all myself and use the more clunky box with the extra template because you refuse common sense. United States Man (talk) 23:58, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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Is the day of the week necessary?
I’m not going to be adding the day of the week to pre-1950 tornado charts. Too much work to Google things like “What day of the week was February 12, 1945” all the time. It seems to add unnecessary steps. When copy/pasting it isn’t that bad. But when you are creating the charts from scratch, it becomes just unnecessary and time-consuming work. In fact, the copy/editor who had the idea for the new tornado chart actually questioned why the header “List of confirmed tornadoes…” was even on the charts. I’m ok with them there, but like, do we seriously need the day of the week in the header? It doesn’t really add anything and it 100% get’s overlooked for most readers since everyone isn’t looking at the day of the week, but rather the date and the tornado intensity. Just a thought, why don’t we just remove the day of the week? WeatherWriter (talk) 05:35, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Eh. I don't really support removing it. If you don't want them on the pre-1950s stuff, fine. But, we should keep the rest of it consistent. United States Man (talk) 05:41, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

What do you consider not a “niche”?
In the AfDs, you said tornadoes causing more than $1 million in damage was too “niche”. What is not too “niche” for you? $100 million? $1 billion? If these actually get deleted, this will set the precedent of absolutely no tornado costliest list besides the current top 10. That is it. I’m taking the costliest AfDs slightly personal now since you haven’t nominated List of costliest Atlantic hurricanes for being too niche or List of costliest tornadoes in the Americas for being too niche and violating the RfC which you wanted. So…What is not a “niche” damage total for you? The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 02:51, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thebiguglyalien, with 919 points from a featured article on Frances Cleveland as well as five good articles and many reviews,
 * Unlimitedlead, with 862 points from a high-scoring featured articles on Henry II of England and numerous reviews,
 * Iazyges, with 560 points from a high-scoring featured article on Tiberius III.

Contestants achieved 11 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 47 good articles, 72 featured or good article reviews, over 100 DYKs and 40 ITN appearances. As always, any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process.

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THANK YOU
I don't know where you've been but trying to manage everything by myself (as the main editor that is) has been EXTREMELY difficult. Thank you. If you could help with refs on the list pages, I would greatly appreciate it. Chess Eric  02:10, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It's definitely been getting off the rails lately. Another sockpuppet it seems... United States Man (talk) 02:13, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations/Tornadoesarecool13

 * Hi United States Man,
 * It's Tornadofan2.0, I am not Sockpuppet. I do not know who this person is and I have nothing to do with him/her.
 * Thank you for your understanding!
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Speedy deletion contested: Severe weather outbreak of April 19-20, 2023
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A kitten for you!
idk if u had any bad days this month but have a kitty to get rid of those days, also ur cool united states man

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Apology
Hey United States Man. I wanted to apologize for my reverts on 1973 Central Alabama tornado. I was out of line. I’m very glad I caught myself before getting too hot-headed. I’m still working on that part of my character. I’ve been told multiple times to start discussions when someone disagrees and I failed to do that on the tornado’s article. I hope you accept my apology and we can move forward with the appropriate discussions, given we disagree. I hope you have a good day. Cheers! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 22:48, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were


 * Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
 * Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
 * Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.

Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them and within 24 hours of the end of the final. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

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I appreciate your edit on 2013 Moore tornado
Hey United States Man! I wanted to thank you for this edit to the image on 2013 Moore tornado. Something we both need to work on is being slow to revert and quick to discuss. If I may offer some quick advice, I would be cautious about calling a friendly head's up "spam", given there truly was no source for the edit which you re-reverted me on. That said, I really appreciate you finding a way to satisfy WP:OR as well as the issue about not naming the photographer. Good job on that and keep up the good work! Cheers! <3 The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:44, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Continued issues with User:WeatherWriter
Pinging you since I can see you've tried to talk to him before. Frequently when I review my watchlist, I see the need to go behind and cleanup articles in several areas. Some of those have been edited by WeatherWriter, to which he generally takes offense to me editing anything he has touched, even when I provide policy to support changes. I was recently accused by him at Wikipedia talk:No original research of removing information after a discussion was started: "All of a sudden, when a question was posed here, you decided to remove it as being OR, prior to a discussion even getting answered. Like whatelse are we to think, given the mass deletion spree, on top of removing it coincidentally just after this discussion was started...". The "mass deletion" he refers to was a single edit I made to Tornado records to remove information that wasn't supported by a reliable source. I was accused of making the edit after the discussion was started, although I had actually made the edit well before the discussion, and proper attention to that fact was not paid. I believe the user was previously told to utilize common sense when editing, but that apparently hasn't helped. United States Man (talk) 01:47, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Really. :( I had just complimented you (actually minutes before this) about solving a situation we disagreed on... I'm trying to work with you, but it seems we don't agree on anything. I'm attempting to follow a 0RR or 1RR pattern, hence the start of the discussion on WP:OR's talk page, which was done completely in compliance with a 0RR situation from 1999 Loyal Valley tornado, which can be seen in the article contribution history. I was mis-informed about the accusations, which I appologized for and quickly struckthrough my comments as well as thanked your comment pointing out my error. Then before you ping other people here, I compliment you for solving a problem we disagreed with. Well done...As promised to both Jason Rees and Jasper Deng, I will not apologize for starting discussions after discussions for disagreements to help solve a 0RR and 1RR situation. Should I not compliment you anymore when we come to a solution, because that is how I'm feeling right now? The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:55, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I know you mean well, but I don't understand why you continually back out, apologize, and compliment me after you get proven wrong. It has been happening on that same cycle for years. I didn't really take that comment above as sincere because you had previously tried to send me a warning to make a WP:POINT. You tend to get so caught up in fighting others that you fail to realize that maybe they actually know what they are doing. United States Man (talk) 02:00, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, regarding the tornado speeds, you may not know it, but Storm Data is literally riddled with hundreds errors, especially pre-2005. By including forward speeds based on times and lengths, without being explicitly stated, we could be inadvertently providing false information on Wikipedia. Another issue is that Storm Data doesn't account for curvature in the path, instead using only a start and end point and an interpolation between for the path length. In old data, that can lead to a listed path length that doesn't match the actual path, thus messing up any self-calculation that is made using those numbers. United States Man (talk) 02:08, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you didn't think it was sincere. It was. The OR template message I gave you earlier wasn't to make a WP:POINT, but rather to tell you the NWS source where the image came from didn't have any mention of it entering Moore. That's all it was. That was why I complimented you after you fixed it. That's all it was. I wasn't trying to make a point. As a promise to Jason Rees and Jasper Deng, I am working to follow a 0RR and 1RR lifestyle. This means starting discussions after discussions. When you chanrged it originally, I reverted, trying to say it was an OR violation, given NWS didn't say it was taken when entering Moore. I was coming here to do the basic OR level 1 template, which is friendly, where I could explain the situation out. As I was typing that out, you re-reverted it. Even despite you calling my actual attempt to communicate with you "spam", I complimented you for fixing the error. That's legit all it was. I burned a lot of bridged in the last few months, but I seriously am trying to slowly build them back. That is all it is. I don't expect you to think I'm sincere overnight, but I do hope we can work through situations and discussions, since we will probably interact in a lot of them, given our differing viewpoints. But for real, I am working to follow 0RR and 1RR, which is what I did on 2013 Moore tornado, Tornado records, and 1999 Loyal Valley tornado, which we disagreed on today. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 02:09, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * You did make me feel bad now, because like I said, I know you mean well. I just wish you'd understand that maybe not every single fact and information tidbit belongs on Wikipedia. It isn't an exhaustive fact sheet. United States Man (talk) 02:12, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, don't feel bad. I should have paid more attention to edit time stamps before commenting. For that, I am sorry. I would like to say I do recognize not every little fact belongs in a Wikipedia article. In the last 2 weeks, there are several things I did not open a discussion on, which was reverted (from you or others). The few things I did open a discussion on were ones I felt needed discussed. That's part of a discussion, which is where editors talk about whether or not something is useful for an article, i.e. following WP:BRD. For instances, the Webberville, Michigan discussion, which we both participated in. The discussion wasn't officially closed, but the "consensus" is truly "no consensus" with 2 support and 2 oppose. I'm not badgering the point for which the discussion was started for, as I am attempting to honor the no-consensus informal consensus on it. Jason Rees commented blow that they will respond to this discussion in the future, so hopefully I understand this idea. In discussions, as long as you base arguments on policy (with comments about your opinion being allowed, as long as there is a policy reason included), you are free to openly discuss a topic to better improve an article. Once a consensus is formed, you should not badger the point and need to honor the consensus. I'm doing my dag-on best to ensure I'm following a 0RR (if my edit was the addition) or 1RR (if I am the first reverter of an edit). Well, if I may ask, in the situation mentioned earlier (Moore tornado image), what do you think I should do? The reason I assumed I needed to come to your talk page was due to the recent article talk page discussion, where we had a disagreement (Heros quote on 1973 Central Alabama tornado, which was stale for 10 days, giving a false allusion of WP:SILENCE. I sort of want to know how to best discuss items with you. Would you prefer discussions on the article's talk page or here? I don't want to spam you, nor do I want to make you annoyed/angry, but I just want to know how to discuss things with you, since both methods didn't seem to work before. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 04:13, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Just popping in to say that I have seen this conversation and will respond when i get more time and I'm more awake.Jason Rees (talk) 03:46, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey United States Man, I do have a question. In your first message here, you said that you review your watchlist to go clean-up different articles. I do the same often (with my watchlist having over 8,000 articles). Today, the first edit you made was on 1999 Loyal Valley tornado, which was started today. If I may ask politely, do you watch my contributions? I'm asking because your watchlist, in theory, would not have contained that article, given it was created a little less than 3 hours before you edited it. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:57, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * While I cannot comment as to if watches your contributions, I will say that we all get notices such as a link was made from X to Y. I will also state that I have been trying to keep an eye on your contributions but failing miserably due to time pressures.Jason Rees (talk) 19:55, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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