User talk:Universal Life/Biervos

It's just a draft for now, but there's a lot of potential for developping and standardising words in JS for WM projects. Your contributions and comments are welcome. --Universal Life (talk) 12:29, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I didn't know exactly how to properly render the Hebrew text. And I'm just before travelling, but even as a draft I wanted to create this. One question though, I'm thinking that on one hand, the OT and the OF are making the table very crowded. What to do you think, would it be better to remove them? I'm thinking to use these sub-pages of Biervos also for vocabulary for everyone but especially also for Wikipedia related words or for words related to the interface (there could be /Biervos2, /Biervos3 and also /BiervosInterface and /BiervosVikipedya etc, just a thought). I've many lists here and there and I want to collect them and correct them under one place. If you have ideas about how to better this table, please let me know as well. Thanks and al vermos --Universal Life (talk) 14:10, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I did a little further copyediting, too.
 * I'll give some thought to your question. I think for a really basic word list like this, it's fine to keep OF and OT in place; whether we'd want this wide a range of orthographies in /Biervos2, -3 and -4 is a separate issue. And it's a good question as to where these should live, and whether there should be multiple copies of at least some (e.g., in the Incubator Test Wiktionary).
 * One question: My impression is that OE generally has specific standards. Since JS was always more a spoken than written language, there will always be some variation in spelling. But I don't get the sense that the types of spelling variations you describe in the OU paragraphs really duplicate themselves in OE. Is that true? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:17, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * For a word like "fuerte" there are 3 places inside the word that causes variations:
 * The last -e, that can turn into an -i in Western JS
 * The "ue" diphtong that is pronounced as "oe" in some dialects, and
 * The initial f- that can turn into an h (/x/) due to the influence of the following diphtong, just like in some places in Paraguay.
 * So in AY or in OT and OF, you get to see many written variations (and naturally pronunciations), such as fuerte, fuerti, huerte, huerti, foerte, hoerte. However just like OU, OE writes (almost) all of these variations the same, as yud can both be read /e/ and /i/ and vav can both be read as /o/ and /u/. The only possible variation in OE would be חואירטי instead of פֿואירטי but as the pronunciations with fue- are percieved to be more prestigious, imo, it would be possible, but rare to see such spellings in publications (may be more common in personal letters and such). --Universal Life (talk) 14:46, 30 August 2017 (UTC)