User talk:Universalhope

Apparently after some research, I need this added in here since I live with my boyfriend who also uses Wikipedia. Universalhope (AKA BHarvey) 21:55, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Xplosive E Sports (October 19)
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AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 00:04, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

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Part of the problem is that we don't have a lot of information to go on. We have the server logs, which show you and Jknutson1978 on the same IP address. We have an article history, which shows both accounts editing that page within minutes. From there, we have to connect the dots ourselves. You say that the other account is operated by your boyfriend. Well, we can't prove or disprove that – all we know is what I said. That's why we have a policy on that: "Closely connected users may be considered a single user for Wikipedia's purposes if they edit with the same objectives." You created an article, and Jknutson1978 accepted it. This gives the impression that Jknutson1978 is an uninvolved third party who examined the article, found that it complied with our policies, and accepted it. This is inappropriate for several reasons: So, I guess what needs to happen now is that you tell us if you intend to edit independently of your boyfriend (in other words, the two of you don't act like a hive mind, and you won't use one account to help the other bypass Wikipedia's processes), whether you intend to write about topics that don't involve you or your boyfriend, and whether you understand why all of this was inappropriate. You can just respond below without making a new unblock request. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:07, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) it's an article about Jknutson1978, which means he should not be editing it, and, according to our best practices, you probably shouldn't have been writing about someone that you know personally
 * 2) the article was accepted by someone who is dating the person who wrote it, which means it probably didn't get the same amount of scrutiny that a truly independent reviewer would have given it
 * 3) the two accounts were never disclosed as having a connection to each other or the topic in question

I apologize then if I got things wrong when I was trying to learn how to use the site. The way I understood it was that I could write the article but he was not allowed to write it because it is his Organization. But I thought that he was able to look over it to make sure that everything was correct and if it was correct to send it on its way. So that is what I did, after writing about the organization Xplosive E Sports, I passed it on to him to make sure I had everything correct like correct links, correct logo, colors, the backstory of how the organization came to exist, etc. and to approve it. 1. That would be my fault in understanding how to create an article as I told him that it would be OK since the article is about his organization and not about him. I knew he couldn't write about it because he owned it, but I thought it was ok if I did the writing since I was not part of the company. Though a person writing about something, that they know personally is usually more accurate than someone who doesn't. But I can see too how maybe I shouldn't because it can cause bad feelings between us if I include information he might not want listed about the company, kind of like how I turned my own brother in for drugs and now he hasn't spoken to me since that about 3 years ago. 2. Again, him accepting it would be my fault because I thought it would be ok for him to at least review and approve it. Plus I know he would give it the same scrutiny as anyone else because we are talking about a guy who would fire his own family if he had too, but of course, how do you guys know that since you don't know him personally. 3. I didn't realize I had to state that I knew him or that I knew his company. I guess I just figured since I knew about his company, I would be best to write about Xplosive E Sports. I didn't even know I had to add the IP address box until just recently so I got that added. I guess all in all, I never intended to bypass Wikipedia's processes by having him approve the article. I just understood it as OK for him to do since he did not write it. So obviously neither of us intends to help the other bypass anything. It was a misunderstanding on my part. So in other words, I am not able to write about his organization? And if that is the case, who is able to write about it because from what I am understanding from what I recently read, he can't ask someone to write about it, because then it involves them. But if no one knows about the organization, then no one can write about it. Is there a way that draft pages are able to be visible so people can see it and work on it, or are draft pages always not visible? Thanks. Universalhope (AKA BHarvey) 02:18, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * There are options open to you. You can go through articles for creation, like you did, but wait for an uninvolved person to accept the article.  Let someone who isn't connected in any way decide whether it meets our policies.  Another option is to request that someone else create the article.  There's no guarantee that anyone would take you up on it, but an experienced Wikipedian might become intrigued and do it.  I think that you understand our policies now, so I'm going to lift the block.  I would ask that you please go to the tea house, our forum for new users, if you have any questions or think you may run into further trouble with conflict of interest issues.  I can unilaterally unblock you because I was the one who did the block – but if you get into trouble again, it won't be so easy.  So, please, take the time to go over our guideline on how to manage a conflict of interest if you decide to go through creating the article yourself.  I know it's bureaucratic, complex, and confusing.  That's one of the reasons why we have our new user forum.  Wikipedia isn't always easy to figure out, but we do usually have ways to find help.  I realize you might not want to deal with me further, but you can ask me questions at User talk:NinjaRobotPirate.  Or maybe you'd rather find a friendlier admin – no problem.  There are some rather friendly admins listed at Teahouse/Hosts. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:20, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

OK, thank you very much. I think I will look a bit into the Requested articles you mentioned and see more how that works. Maybe try that rout and see how that goes. Now can either of us ask in there or is it better to come from me since I am not part of Xplosive E Sports? And I will definitely check out the forum. I didn't know about it, so I will head there and look over stuff too! Universalhope (AKA BHarvey) 06:09, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Either of you could make the request. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:41, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Xplosive E Sports


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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! - Rich T&#124;C&#124;E-Mail 02:00, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, That is because I had to stop working on it because I was considered to be to close to my partner who owns Xplosive to work on the article. So I had to stop working on it and leave it to sit in hopes for someone else to take over writing it who is allowed to work on it. Universalhope (talk)