User talk:Unrequestedsillything

Katyn skepticism
Katyn skepticism has the same intelectual value as Holocaust revisionism. There are thousands of documents, eyewitness accounts, physical evidences. It's a game for you but it's my life, so please don't play with my life, it's cruel.Xx236 (talk) 07:47, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Normally, people tend to reply to discussions on the OP, but I suppose we can continue it on my page.
 * I do -not- care if you are offended by my beliefs. I do -not- care if I appear 'insulting' to victims of Katyn.  My point is that you refuse to not hinder discussion.  Which side is correct is irrelevant here; the only thing that matters is that you do not attempt to silence discussion.  If all you do is throw insults, than you do not have any business being on the talk pages about Katyn.
 * Also Kaytn is not a game for me; it is my quest for what I believe is the real truth, and it is nothing like Holocaust denial. Frankly, if anything, supporting the common view of Katyn is closer to Holocaust denial, since those of us who believe that Stalin was not responsible for Katyn, believe that Katyn was actually an additional part of the Holocaust - but none of that really matters here, since my initial point was simply that you either need to contribute to discussion in a civilized way (such as by not simply saying "the Earth is not flat", or not contribute at all.  Notice how it is only you who I am calling out; I have said nothing like this to any of the others who disagree with me about Katyn, since they at least respond without being rude.  So please, stop telling me that I'm being 'insulting' to the victims, because that does not mean anything. Unrequestedsillything (talk) 03:59, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I suppose the Great Purge or the rapes committed by advancing soviet forces never happened either? And those gulags, all fake?72.70.32.125 (talk) 06:49, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, no. No.  I know that the Great Purge and the Gulags were very real.  I know that many, many, many people died under Stalin.  The rapes?  I don't know about that.  I will neither confirm nor deny that, since I simply don't know.  My point is that *Katyn* was not Stalin's doing, but rather Hitler's.  When Stalin killed people, he always had justified reason to, such as with those who died in the Gulag and in the purges.  Yes, the Purges and Gulags were a good thing.  They were not innocent people; they all deserved to die.  Katyn, however, was a senseless killing, something that Stalin would have never done.  Hitler, on the other hand, killed innocent people all the time.  Hitler was a complete monster; and considering the locations of his troops around the time that Katyn happened, it is more than plausible that Hitler was the one responsible. Plus, loads of German bullets were found in the graves by an archaeological team in 2011 and 2012, in addition to Polish policeman corpses that had IDs identical to those reported caprtured by Germans.  But of course, I guess that means nothing, because anyone who even questions any negative claim about Stalin is obviously some sort of evil commie denialist, right? Unrequestedsillything (talk) 03:20, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

This is a fascinating topic. Surely there is written evidence of Stalin and the Politburo authorising Beria to carry out the action ? And doesn't Mitrokhin provide further evidence ? 212.121.210.45 (talk) 12:59, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * There is sufficient reason to believe it was Nazi forgery. Not that this alone is reason, but the Nazis were the first to claim that the Soviets were responsible.  Joseph Gobbels set up an entire campaign to spread that claim.  That should raise suspicion in any person.  Add to that that here has been little, if any, investigation to determine if their account was at all truthful.  The only supposed evidence of Soviet responsibility are a handful of documents with alleged signatures by Soviet officials.  Surely, when the Nazi regime was at its most desperate point, they would make what relatively little effort it would take to make a forgery, to take as much weight off of their shoulders as possible?  Perhaps pointing out motives alone for explaining why it couldn't have been a Soviet crime is not enough, but there have been inconsistencies discovered in the documents which the Nazis alleged to be of Soviet origin. Unrequestedsillything (talk) 03:20, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

When communism is the capitalist's greatest enemy, it is inevitable that the capitalists will do whatever they can to disgrace them. The Nazis had every motive to blame Katyn on the Soviets, and the bourgeoisie have every reason to unquestioningly support that claim. Add to that, contrary to Xx236's claim, there are not "thousands of documents, eyewitness accounts, physical evidences"; there are a handful, and they are beyond suspicious. There are however, many holes and contradictions in the most commonly accepted story. No one ever considers the other side's arguments at all. They only blow them away the moment they see them. Unrequestedsillything (talk) 03:33, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation
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