User talk:Urammar

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October 2014
Hello, I'm Sturmgewehr88. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Alien (creature in Alien franchise) seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.  ミーラー強斗武  (StG88ぬ会話) 05:32, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.  ミーラー強斗武  (StG88ぬ会話) 12:20, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Help me! Page move/name change!
Please help me with...

I am trying to (move?) change the "Alien (creature in Alien franchise)" title to "Xenomorph (creature in Alien franchise)" to correctly reflect its name. I have no idea how to do this, and the page to request it just keeps yelling at me :)

Thanks in advance! Urammar (talk) 05:34, 28 October 2014 (UTC)


 * You just need to make a redirect on Xenomorph page. You do not need to make request. I will help you. --220.255.47.5 (talk). Signed at 09:00, 28 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure how to do that, and apparently the edit needs to wait for the talk page to reach consensus.
 * But to be clear, I want to change the title of the article, because its wrong. (If consensus is reached)

Thanks for the reply! Urammar (talk) 09:17, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

IP editing
Hey Urammar. Just a heads up, but per WP:SOCK it's highly discouraged to edit as an IP when you have an account. So I added a template to User:203.129.24.80 that identifies the IP as belonging to you.  ミーラー強斗武  (StG88ぬ会話) 03:17, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Uh, thanks. Yeah I was logged out and didnt notice.

Urammar (talk) 05:05, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Reverting other editors
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Alien (creature in Alien franchise). Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to be blocked from editing. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. While edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block.

If you think the article should be moved to a different title, WP:RM/CM gives a clear framework for discussing and doing that, and the article can be rewritten to use your preferred noun after being moved. If you want to get more input on the talk page, I'd recommend raising an WP:RFC.--McGeddon (talk) 11:01, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Please refer me to the standing dispute resolution request you filed. Thank you.
 * Please refer me to the standing dispute resolution request you filed. Thank you.

Urammar (talk) 11:12, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I haven't filed any dispute resolution requests. A simple renaming discussion or RFC would be more productive at this point, I think. --McGeddon (talk) 11:19, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * You were instructed to do so in the talk page if you intended to revert. If you maintain your stance, please do so.
 * In addition, please restore my edit under wiki guidelines
 * Further please see consensus — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urammar (talk • contribs) 11:26, 31 October 2014‎
 * Sorry, that's not how it works. (If it was, I could just give the same ultimatum to you!) Getting more input from other editors is definitely the way to go here - I'd recommend either of the two steps above. Assume good faith, avoid personal attacks and good luck! --McGeddon (talk) 11:31, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Since you guys are so bad at knowing how it works, [| This is how it works now]
 * You revision was undone under policy guidelines, and is thus exempt from edit warring. Any further attempts by you, however, are not.
 * If you want to do something about it now, | This is where we go]
 * I'm playing properly now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urammar (talk • contribs) 11:38, 31 October 2014‎
 * Yes, the third recommendation in the DRN link you give is "Request community input on article content" which is what I've suggested. Shall we go ahead and do that? Either of us can start an RFC.
 * I was just reverting your change because you were repeatedly applying it with an edit summary of "re talk page", as if it had been agreed on the talk page, but there's no consensus there yet. My most recent revert was also because you were making a controversial attempt to rename the article, when WP:RM/CM has a clear process for how to do that. --McGeddon (talk) 11:49, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I already started an RfC.  ミーラー強斗武  (StG88ぬ会話) 11:52, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, as I made perfectly clear in my post on the talk page that begins "Read this carefully", and ends "If you want to revert, file for resolution" that is exactly what you need to do. Urammar (talk) 11:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I already started an RfC.  ミーラー強斗武  (StG88ぬ会話) 11:52, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, as I made perfectly clear in my post on the talk page that begins "Read this carefully", and ends "If you want to revert, file for resolution" that is exactly what you need to do. Urammar (talk) 11:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Question for administrator
 Please refer to [| Alien_(creature_in_Alien_franchise)] User McGeddon is knowingly revising edits against policy.

Friendly reminder: Policy based revisions, as I understand it, are exempt from edit war counts. This user has been instructed on both my talk page, and the Alien talk page to request dispute resolution in place of further edits.

Thank you for your time --Urammar (talk) 12:02, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Not so, I'm afraid - policy based reverts are not exempt from the rules on edit warring. The only exceptions to the rules are listed here. What you are doing at Alien_(creature_in_Alien_franchise) is definitely edit warring. Stop it. Yunshui 雲 水 13:44, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry to be a pain in the bum. I just need some clarification on the WP:Edit war page then, as it is what I consulted before making the change. I'm pretty sure I read it on another page also, that specifically uses the terminology "does not contribute to edit war count" but I cannot seem to find it.
 * On that page it states; "Reverting to enforce certain overriding policies is not considered edit warring"
 * Am I to understand that WP:DontRevertNoConsensus is not a policy? Have I misinterpreted something?
 * Just after some clarification so I don't get in trouble in the future. Thank you!
 * Urammar (talk) 00:28, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * You are correct, WP:DRNC is not policy. From the header it says "This essay contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. Essays are not Wikipedia policies or guidelines.".
 * In regards to "Reverting to enforce certain overriding policies": the overriding reasons are listed at WP:3RRNO. Only for those 7 reasons are you exempt from 3RR. None of those applied to what you were doing in the Alien article. Stickee (talk) 09:23, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Thank you. McGeddon (talk) 12:26, 31 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Be advised I have also added my side to the notes of your report.
 * Thank you for the notification, if this was not automated.
 * Urammar (talk) 12:58, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Closing RFCs
You've closed the Alien RFC early twice now. RFCs can only be closed by involved editors if "the matter under discussion is not contentious and the consensus is obvious to the participants", which is clearly not the case here. The RFC should be closed by an uninvolved editor, typically after 30 days - if conversation stalls for a week then we can look at closing it early, but it should not be up to one of the contributors to make the call.

Please don't close the RFC early again. Since you have already been warned for edit warring this exact reversion prior to the RFC, restoring it again will be taken as a continuation of that edit war and you may be blocked.--McGeddon (talk) 10:04, 9 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Are you retarded?

Urammar (talk) 01:21, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

November 2014
You have been blocked from editing for a period of one week for disruptive editing, including edit warring at Alien (creature in Alien franchise), improperly closing RfC, and personal attacks. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice:. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Bbb23 (talk) 06:01, 10 November 2014 (UTC)