User talk:UrartuKing

April 2023
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Artaxiad dynasty, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:45, 27 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I dont know what you did on Artaxiads, but regarding Arzanena can you please not interfere into my tribal history if you are not part of the tribe, we are doing hard work trying to get our history forward spending money on DNA tests etc. Thanks. UrartuKing (talk) 22:00, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Your tribal background is of zero relevance here, you don't own that article (WP:OWN), and we use WP:RS, not random websites with ridiculous silly DNA tests. Read WP:POV. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:08, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ok if you own that article, would you kindly check that my dna and the dna found in bothb Alzi and Arzanena is same and I happen to be from the Arzan tribe. How is it 0 relevance? Do you have any knoweldge on the DNA Y paternal line? If you are article owner of my ancestors ancient government then please be kind enough to add my information there. There is nothing more exact than DNA today, that sheds light on ancient population UrartuKing (talk) 22:52, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * No, and I never said that I own any article, click the links I posted... There is no proof that your tribe is of any relevance here, other it would actually be documented in WP:RS, not random DNA tests that you personally made. Again, we follow WP:RS, not our personal thoughts or feelings. You can claim to be Urartian as much as you want, just don't put it in Wiki articles. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:00, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * then i will have to post my academicaly approved article to be academic relevant first, then it can be noted down on the article i guess. however so much people add fake sources on wikipedia, its silly to see a biologically approved information not passsing on wikipedia. UrartuKing (talk) 23:07, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * what I claim is that our tribe are the kings and descendants of Alzi and Arzanena. We have genetic, onomastic, ethno-toponomical proof. Please advise me as a specialist of wikipedia, how can I state this? The authors who write on Arzanena are also just authors who theorize on my ancient tribe.. I am the only one who acn shed more light on it, which i am trying to do. otherwise how can we expect true information to take place on wikipedia when it is a free encyclopedia where we all try to add true knoweledge? UrartuKing (talk) 23:15, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * btw WP:POV is exactly what I am doing. I am informing ot stating, people decide what to believe
 * Achieving what the Wikipedia community understands as neutrality means carefully and critically analyzing a variety of reliable sources and then attempting to convey to the reader the information contained in them fairly, proportionately, and as far as possible without editorial bias. Wikipedia aims to describe disputes, but not engage in them. The aim is to inform, not influence UrartuKing (talk) 23:24, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * No, WP:POV as you are trying to push your own opinion into an article. You’re not an academic historian, you’re not qualified (neither am I for that matter). If there are people who are (i.e WP:RS) then please use them. If there is indeed such proof, then there is WP:RS about it. See also WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. HistoryofIran (talk) 23:56, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * there is an academic research.
 * https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4247#:~:text=Some%20people%20across%20the%20Balkans,Balkan%2C%20and%20Albanian%20languages%20arose.
 * if i paraphrase
 * According to a Y-DNA test of an Arzini (Arzzani), a tribe claiming to be descendants of Arzanena, the haplogroup is L-L595. (here i put dna website of tested familltreedna official result)
 * L595 was found circa 100BC on the Batman river in the area called Kuriki Hoyuk, which was part of Arzanena. L595 is also found next to Arzaneh river in Hatay, close by to where the Arza (Alzi) kingdom was located.
 * here i put the scientific article where my paternal line was found in ex arzaenana.
 * that should be enough for a theory no?
 * "Arzini (Arizantu) tribal descendants reside in Eastern Turkiye, Nakhchivan and Iran, and are of Kurdish descent" UrartuKing (talk) 16:21, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * That just sounds like WP:SYNTH. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:30, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * its a demo version of what i will be writing. of course in my original work all information will be interconected between A B and C and will make much more sense. Anyhow I am working on the original academic research of my own, so i will post once it is done. And yes, I am diplomized Middle Eastern studies specialist from an American university, future Master and hopefully Phd. I just havent gotten used to wikipedia format, having seen many "crepe" information used in wiki, thought of it as more easy format rather than academic. UrartuKing (talk) 22:33, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Regardless, WP:SPS still applies. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:18, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

May 2023
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Arzanene. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. HistoryofIran (talk) 22:07, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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